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Offline Craig Gillingham

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CG #5 - Roadless Traction Ltd. conversion on a White car
« on: May 23, 2012, 08:14:05 AM »
I think this one is more for the experts.

For 1 point, name the car that this vehicle is based on, and who did the tracked conversion?
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 07:28:20 PM »

Could it be based on a White?

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Re: CG #5
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 07:35:35 PM »
Yes, it's a White. Just need to know who did the tracked conversion, and the point is yours.

I'm not sure how I actually Lock something, can someone tell me?

In the meantime, it's Locked for you to come up with the rest.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2012, 12:00:02 AM »

I have not seen flexible rubber/leather/canvass? tracks this early. They are more like continuous belts and have no tread.
If it is in the USA: there was Holt/Best/Cat, Monarch, Bates, Bear & Cletrac. They all built tracked vehicles in the 20s and earlier.
I am new here and enjoy the challenge. Have not posted a pic yet.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2012, 01:01:07 AM »
I suppose they are more like continuous belts than tracks, I hadn't considered that before. But the company that did the conversion was well known for proper tracked conversions (with cleats) for many years.

Not from the USA.

This is my 5th post. I only started yesterday.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2012, 03:40:32 AM »

I would love to see how the steering wheel controls the belts. Fiat had wheel controlled dozers in the 50s & 60s.

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Re: CG #5
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2012, 03:54:12 AM »
Quote from: Manuel on May 24, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Have not posted a pic yet.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2012, 03:55:16 AM »
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on May 23, 2012, 07:35:35 PM
I'm not sure how I actually Lock something, can someone tell me?

You can't physically do it.
You just say it's locked and rely on people to respect that.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2012, 05:09:37 AM »
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I would love to see how the steering wheel controls the belts. Fiat had wheel controlled dozers in the 50s & 60s.

This is the only photo I can find, there are a lot of patent drawings online, but a few too many for me to wade through to find the steering mechanisim. But I can forward the details of this later on.

It's not Fiat related, but is from Europe, a bit further fo the West from Italy.

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You can't physically do it.
You just say it's locked and rely on people to respect that

Thank you, I was looking for a special button.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 12:00:54 AM »
This one is Unlocked.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 12:03:51 AM »
Spain?
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 12:31:19 AM »
Not Spain.
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Re: CG #5
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 03:00:35 AM »
My Father has this image on his computer, he has the following info attached to it


" Lieutenant Colonel Philips Johnson created in 1919 the ‘Roadless Traction Limited’. He made many Track Conversions on Ford tractors but, about 1920, studied and built in his Department of Tank Design and experiment the White Staff Observation Car (picture) with tracks and perplexing cable suspension for the U.S. Army."
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Re: CG #5 - Roadless Traction Ltd. conversion on a White car
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2012, 06:09:24 AM »
Exactly correct.
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Re: CG #5 - Roadless Traction Ltd. conversion on a White car
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2012, 06:27:02 PM »

Interesting.
If I knew it was from the UK I may have suggested County and Roadless. But being a White I thought it was in the USA :-(
Are there any more pics or more info?
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Re: CG #5 - Roadless Traction Ltd. conversion on a White car
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2012, 01:22:14 AM »
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Are there any more pics or more info?

This is the only photo I can recall seeing. I thought I would be able to find the patent drawings online, but couldn't.

I did find another odd tracked conversion, but by a different inventor. I think you'd want to be very fit to ride it.
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Re: CG #5 - Roadless Traction Ltd. conversion on a White car
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2012, 05:42:01 AM »
Here are some more pics.

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