Author Topic: Solved: PN #225 -- Olvera/Oliver (Read 821 times)

pnegyesi · « **on:** September 04, 2011, 04:10:10 PM »

Please identify this car for a point. I don't know the country (I'll try to check tomorrow) - I know a brand and a model year.

qwaszx · « **Reply #1 on:** September 05, 2011, 11:29:48 AM »

curved dash Oldsmobile 1901? No that would be too easy.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #2 on:** September 05, 2011, 11:39:55 AM »

Yes, that would be too easy. In the meantime I am still waiting for some further info on the car from- like a country where it was made. I'll let you know if I get more photos, info

pnegyesi · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2011, 12:35:46 AM »

Experts?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2011, 03:12:36 PM »

Professionals?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2011, 01:37:36 PM »

A month has passed. Let's try with a clue. I think it is American, but the picture was taken in Europe

João · « **Reply #6 on:** November 07, 2011, 08:14:23 PM »

1903 Polymobil?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #7 on:** November 07, 2011, 11:18:19 PM »

1903 is right, but the brand is much, much more obscure and it is from America

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2011, 05:59:36 AM »

Could it be a Fournier, Oldmobile's licensed seller in France in the early 1900's? I don't know if they sold any cars branded as such, but it's worth a guess.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:07:57 PM »

No, it's definitely an American brand, but the museum says one thing about this automobile, while Georgano's Encyclopedia says other

pnegyesi · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2012, 03:41:41 AM »

black hole

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2012, 12:26:22 PM »

Quote from: pnegyesi on November 10, 2011, 11:07:57 PM

No, it's definitely an American brand, but the museum says one thing about this automobile, while Georgano's Encyclopedia says other

In Georgano's encyclopedia is American?

pnegyesi · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2012, 12:39:52 PM »

Oguerrerob · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2012, 07:52:42 PM »

I've found a similar car called Olvera made 1901 (Don't know where was built)

RayTheRat · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2012, 09:05:36 PM »

According to what I've read, Olveras were made in Mexico by a clan of Mormons who migrated there from Utah to form a colony. I haven't verified this from multiple sources, so take it with a grain of salt.

João · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2012, 01:47:37 AM »

Maybe an Aksai from 1903?

Aksai and Dux, from Russia, produced types under licence from Oldsmobile between 1903 and 1906.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2012, 03:41:29 AM »

That Olvera guess is probably correct. I hope to hear from the museum soon and then I can declare this solved

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2012, 07:11:36 PM »

Not sure if this helps finding closure on this puzzle.

I have found information indicating that Mr. Eusebio Olvera built curved-dash Olds replicas in Cuernavaca Morelos, Mexico between 1968 and 1992. The replicas frequently use Briggs and Stratton engines. I haven't been able to find another source that confirms this information about the Olvera replica.

The puzzle photo, and another online photo I found of a claimed "1903 Olvera", include large padded arm rests for the front seats. I have yet to find a photo of an actual 1903 Olds, which shares these arm rests. Your average 1903 Olds has arm rests for the front seats, but they are made out of metal rods.

RayTheRat · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2012, 07:36:12 PM »

The padded armrest is the part that had me confused. I can't think of many stanhopes that had that feature...none, off the top of my head.

RtR

sixtee5cuda · « **Reply #19 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:40:50 PM »

(More photos retrieved)

An original curved dash Olds only has 2 pedals on the floor in front of the driver. One pedal operated the transmission brake, the other controlled the throttle.

I have Olvera pictures showing a 3-pedal system, presumably our current gas-clutch-brake arrangement.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2012, 02:34:09 AM »

I give Oguerrerob 2 points and declare this solved. Hope to hear from the Swedish museum which calls this Oliver soon

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2012, 04:14:56 AM »

Perhaps their reply will add another twist to this Oliver story.

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Author Topic: Solved: PN #225 -- Olvera/Oliver (Read 821 times)

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