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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2012, 09:56:45 AM »
#34 - it was used as an out-landish tour bus in Switzerland.

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2012, 10:13:39 AM »
#33 - Bedford SB for a New Zealand operator?

It's a Bedford but not an SB.  Not from New Zealand but not a million miles away from there either..

#32 - AEC Regal IV with a Samlesbury? body for a UK operator.

Neither an AEC not by Samlesbury.

#36 - Guy 6-wheeled double-decker?

It's a Guy, but there's a lot more to it than that.  When was it built and what was it built for?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2012, 10:15:14 AM »
#43 : Probably built and used in Holland.

Yes, it was Dutch-built so I'll give you another point for that (not sure who the body-builder was though)

#34 - it was used as an out-landish tour bus in Switzerland.

No!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2012, 10:24:02 AM »
Number #22 it“s another Guy. A Guy Seal Tourist Coach from Portugal I believe.

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2012, 10:29:14 AM »
Number #22 it“s another Guy. A Guy Seal Tourist Coach from Portugal I believe.

Yes, it's a Guy Seal.  Don't know if it's from Portugal however - that's not what I have!  1 more point..
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2012, 10:40:56 AM »
#33 - It's a 1950 Bedford OB bodied by CAC (Commonwealth Aircraft Corp.) of Melbourne.
Operator was R.R. Hurst & Sons, Korumburra, Australia.

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2012, 10:47:09 AM »
#36 - is a 1928 Guy 6-wheeled double-deck sleeper coach owned by Land Liners Ltd. and used on the London to Manchester run.

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #57 on: February 10, 2012, 10:48:39 AM »
#34 - it was used as an out-landish tour bus in Switzerland.

Well.. a Motorhome?

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #58 on: February 10, 2012, 10:59:17 AM »
#34 - it was used as an out-landish tour bus in Switzerland.

Well.. a Motorhome?

No!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #59 on: February 10, 2012, 11:00:55 AM »
#33 - It's a 1950 Bedford OB bodied by CAC (Commonwealth Aircraft Corp.) of Melbourne.
Operator was R.R. Hurst & Sons, Korumburra, Australia.

Yes!  2 more points

#36 - is a 1928 Guy 6-wheeled double-deck sleeper coach owned by Land Liners Ltd. and used on the London to Manchester run.

And yes, another 2 points!  So that's your lot for the moment!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #60 on: February 10, 2012, 01:22:01 PM »
Number # 17

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what route this bus operated on?

The Indian Route, I suppose  :D

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #61 on: February 10, 2012, 10:38:32 PM »
Oh, that feeling of arriving in the field after a locust invasion...

Anyway :

#1 Alfa Romeo D.P.C. 2301 from 1936 ATAG Roma-Tivoli line
#8 A Twin Coach ?
#25 Leyland Comet from 1965 bodied by CCMC; Parramatta Bus Co.
#31 Fifth Avenue Coach Company model L ?
#32 Bodied by Metalcraft ?
#35 An AEC double-decker converted into a single-decker ?
#43 This Guy Arab is bodied by Verheul
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2012, 09:58:49 AM »
Number # 17

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what route this bus operated on?

The Indian Route, I suppose  :D

Yes.  It operated on the Route des Indes, for back-packers and the like wanting to take the cheaper scenic route to India!  1 more point for you so that's your lot for the moment too!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2012, 10:03:37 AM »
Oh, that feeling of arriving in the field after a locust invasion...

Anyway :

#1 Alfa Romeo D.P.C. 2301 from 1936 ATAG Roma-Tivoli line
#8 A Twin Coach ?
#25 Leyland Comet from 1965 bodied by CCMC; Parramatta Bus Co.
#31 Fifth Avenue Coach Company model L ?
#32 Bodied by Metalcraft ?
#35 An AEC double-decker converted into a single-decker ?
#43 This Guy Arab is bodied by Verheul

Welcome to the late bus pguillem!

#1: It's an Alfa Romeo but I have a different model.
#8: No, not a Twin Coach
#25: Yes - all correct!  2 points.
#31: Not one of those
#32: Not a Metalcraft body
#35: No.
#43: I did not know that but assuming you're right I'll give you a point.  If anyone proves otherwise I'll have to deduct again though!

So that's 3 points for starters!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2012, 01:46:51 PM »
#1 : Alfa Romeo D.P.C. 2003 of ATAC ?
#8 : a Mack ?
#22 : this Guy Seal could be bodied by UTIC.  The AEC Monocoach of Capristanos looks very similar.
#31 : American Motor Coach ?
#32 : bodied by Plaxton ?
#35 : a Belgian AEC (Bellekens Frčres) ?
#43 : the Verheul connection can be found by googling "Brabena 611"

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2012, 06:33:08 PM »
#1 : Alfa Romeo D.P.C. 2003 of ATAC ?
#8 : a Mack ?
#22 : this Guy Seal could be bodied by UTIC.  The AEC Monocoach of Capristanos looks very similar.
#31 : American Motor Coach ?
#32 : bodied by Plaxton ?
#35 : a Belgian AEC (Bellekens Frčres) ?
#43 : the Verheul connection can be found by googling "Brabena 611"

A little progress but not much!
#1:  Still a different model Alfa Romeo from what I have it as.
#8:  Not a Mack
#22: I agree with you there: it's almost identical but a bit smaller.  You must be right (Joao also suggested it could be from Portugal).  I think I'll give you a point for that!
#31: Not American Motor Coach
#32: Not bodied by Plaxtons
#35: Neither an AEC nor Belgian
#43: I've given you your point for that - thanks for the confirmation.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2012, 10:06:34 PM »
#1 : Strange.  I found the same photograph at the Archivio ATAC site wilth the legend "D.P.C.2003; la 2301 all'origine"
#8 : Marmon-Herrington ?
#31 : Chicago double deck open top ?
#35 : From South Africa ?

That's  becoming really difficult...

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2012, 06:25:29 AM »
#1 : Strange.  I found the same photograph at the Archivio ATAC site wilth the legend "D.P.C.2003; la 2301 all'origine"
#8 : Marmon-Herrington ?
#31 : Chicago double deck open top ?
#35 : From South Africa ?

That's  becoming really difficult...

#1: I've searched the Archivio ATAC site but haven't been able to find a picture of this bus there.  Perhaps you could PM me the direct link and I'll have a look?  The site where I got the picture from (not ATAC) was quite specific about its model, but I must admit Googling it doesn't come up with any results..  I'll give you a point for identifying it as an Alfa though with another point on offer for the correct model.


#8: Not that, no
#31: Yes!  1 point for you for that.
#35: Not South African.  This one is, I think, the most obscure of all of the puzzle pics...
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2012, 06:42:51 AM »
According to my reckoning 15 pts are still available:

#1: Model - 1 point
#6: Where it operates - 1 point
#8: Builder and Operator - 2 points
#9: Identification - 1 point
#15: Identification - 1 point
#20: Identification - 1 point
#27: Identification - 1 point
#29: Identification - 1 point
#32: Make and coachbuilder - 2 points
#34: Purpose of bus - 1 point
#35: Make and coachbuilder - 2 points
#29: Identification and year - 1 point

I'll lift the max 12 point restriction at midday European time (11.00 hrs UK time) next Friday if the above have not all been claimed by then!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2012, 07:30:33 AM »
Were No8 and no39 made on the territory of the former Soviet Union?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2012, 07:38:07 AM »
No20: F.I.A.T. 28/40 HP, 1906
No29: Alfa Romeo 'Obus', a electrial powered bus from 1944
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2012, 11:20:24 AM »
Did anyone identify the builder of No31? It was the Fifth Avenue Coach Co

And was No27 made by the Yellow Coach co?

And last, but not least. When I typed it "private" "bus" 1955 site:.uk, the 2nd result was a Burlingham Seagull. I think No32 is a Burlingham
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2012, 12:07:23 PM »
Were No8 and no39 made on the territory of the former Soviet Union?

Neither of them were, no.

No20: F.I.A.T. 28/40 HP, 1906
No29: Alfa Romeo 'Obus', a electrial powered bus from 1944

Both correct so that's 2 points for you.

Did anyone identify the builder of No31? It was the Fifth Avenue Coach Co

And was No27 made by the Yellow Coach co?

And last, but not least. When I typed it "private" "bus" 1955 site:.uk, the 2nd result was a Burlingham Seagull. I think No32 is a Burlingham

#31: I'll give you a point for that because the maker had not yet been identified.
#27: No answers for that one yet so that's 1 point for the maker; another on offer for where it operated?
#32: Not a Burlingham Seagull and not bodied by Burlingham at all.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #73 on: February 12, 2012, 02:10:03 PM »
Could No39 be an Opel Blitz?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #74 on: February 12, 2012, 02:24:20 PM »
Does No32 feature Alexander bodywork?
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