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Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« on: January 20, 2012, 10:27:49 AM »
It's time for another Big Bus Puzzle!

I have varying amounts of information about all of these so give me what you have and I'll judge how many points it's worth; there will be at least 1 point for identifying the bus and another for where it plied/plies its trade; there may also be more for further good information like its year.  Some I don't even know the manufacturer of myself!

Points will be awarded as we go along, but one thing I don't want is any one particular Puzzler garnering too many points, so to start with I'll restrict the number of points which can be awarded to any one individual to 12.  If, towards the end, we're stuck and no-one can get any more IDs then I'll relax that but I'll decide later to how many more points one person can have..

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« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 10:48:59 AM by Carnut »
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 10:30:32 AM »
The 2nd eleven:

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 10:31:47 AM »
The 3rd Eleven:

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 10:35:58 AM »
Last batch:

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 10:37:43 AM »
Answers and points:

  1: Alfa-Romeo 85-110 double deck bus. 2 points for pguillem for make and model.
  2: Crossley SD42-2 bodied by Jongerius, Holland.  2 points for Joao.
  3: US Ford 59B bodied by Union City Body Co - 1946.  2 points for Joao.
  4: Knox tractor 1914 with the biggest trailer in the world for operator George Schlitz, New York - 2 pts for Wendax
  5: 1938 Leyland Cheetah bodied by Harrington.  2 points for Mudflap
  6: Shanghai Zonda open-top double-deck bus. 1 point for Mudflap and 1 point for pguillem.
  7: Robur Büsse mini-coach from GDR.  1 point for del78
  8: Brill Interurban trolleybus operated by St Joseph Railway Light Heat & Power Co., St. Joseph, Missouri
      in the 1930s - 2 points for pnegyesi.
  9: VRL Sleeper Coach on Ashok-Leyland chassis.  2 points for woodinsight.
10: Guy Arab for Madrid Corporation.  2 points for woodinsight.
11: Kenworth 2-level bus operated by N.E. Coast Lines 1930s - 2 points for woodinsight.
12: Ikarus 66 designed by Gyorgy Horvath - 2 points for Wendax
13: Yaroslaw YaTB-3 Moscow Trolleybus 1938 - 2 points for Wendax
14: Harmening HKB Clubbus mid 1950s with Henschel Diesel engine.  2 points for Siata 1
15: Guy Victory Trambus - Operator Belgian SNCB.  2 points for pguillem.
16: Gräf & Stift DD U11/H/1 for Wiener Verkehrsbetriebe 1966 - 2 points for Wendax
17: Chausson ANH.  1 point for Wendax. Operating on the Route des Indes overland route to India -
      1 point to Joao.
18: Micro Cars Duo Deck in Sri Lanka.  1 point for Mudflap
19: Brazilian Brasinca-bodied bus - 1950s.  1 point for Joao. Or more probably a Marcopolo bodied by
     Nicola. 1 point for pguillem as well!
20: Fiat 28/40 - 1906. 1 point for pnegyesi
21: US Ford bodied by Union City Body Co - 1938.  2 points for Joao.
22: Guy Seal bodied in Portugal by UTIC.  1 point for Joao for make and 1 point for pguillem for the body.
23: Duple-bodied Leyland Royal Tiger (as modelled by Dinky Toys!). 2 points for woodinsight.
24: Sao Paolo Volvo Induscar with bi-articulated Caio Mondego body. 2 points for Mudflap
25: 1965 CCMC-bodied Leyland Comet operator Parramatta Bus Co.  2 points to pguillem.
26: Mikafa small bus/motor home with BMW 501 V8 engine - 1955.  2 points for siata1
27: Yellow Coach Co double decker operated by Chicago Motor Coach Co. 1 point for pnegyesi and 1 for Wendax
28: Mercedes-Benz O 10000 bodied by Trutz, Coburg for Berliner Verkehrs-Betriebe.  2 points for Wendax
29: Alfa-Romeo 'Obus' electric bus - 1944. 1 point for pnegyesi
30: 1932 Crossley Condor 6 operated by Manchester Corporation. 2 points for roger
31: Chicago double-deck coach by Fifth Avenue Coach Co. 1 point for pguillem and 1 for pnegyesi
      for maker.
32: 1951 Leyland PSU 1/15 bodied by Thurgood.  2 points for pnegyesi
33: 1950 Bedford OB bodied by CAC Melbourne for R.R. Hurst.  2 points for woodinsight.
34: 1952 Van Hool bodied school bus. 1 point for Joao.
35: 1927 Brooks Steam Bus bodied by Buffalo Body Co - 2 points for Joao.
36: 1928 Guy 6-wheeled double-decker Manchester - London Sleeper Coach.  2 points for woodinsight.
37: 1938 Viberti-bodied Alfa-Romeo 500 designed by Mario Revelli de Beaumont.  2 points for thorax
38: 1936 Büssing NAG 375N for Alpen & Sud Express Görlitz - 2 points for woodinsight
39: 1935 Opel Blitz operated by Josef Kottenstedte.  2 points for pnegyesi
40: 1934 Tatra T28 bodied by Sodomka for CSD Czechoslovakian Railways.  2 points for Wendax.
41: Havana Camel Bus.  1 point for Mudflap
42: 1954 Walsall Corporation Sunbeam Trolleybus.  2 points for Mudflap
43: 1948 Guy Arab bodied in Holland by Verheul. 2 points for Joao and 1 for pguillem.  

Total points earned so far:

Wendax:      14
Joao:           14
woodinsight: 14
pguillem:      11
pnegyesi:     10
Mudflap:        9
siata1:           4
thorax:          2
roger:           2
del78:           1
« Last Edit: March 27, 2012, 11:26:43 AM by Carnut »
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 11:22:29 AM »
#5 is EYA923, a 1939 Harrington C31F-bodied Leyland Cheetah observation coach, of Blue Motors.

#6 looks like a Zonda open-deck bus.

#18 is a Micro Duo Deck, assembled in Sri Lanka.

#24 is an Induscar Caio Mondego-bodied Volvo bi-articulated body.

#41 is a ''Camel bus'' from Havana, Cuba, International 9700 Eagle tractor I think.

« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 01:50:35 PM by Mudflap »

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 01:58:17 PM »
#5 is EYA923, a 1939 Harrington C31F-bodied Leyland Cheetah observation coach, of Blue Motors.

#6 looks like a Zonda open-deck bus.

#18 is a Micro Duo Deck, assembled in Sri Lanka.

#24 is an Induscar Caio Mondego-bodied Volvo bi-articulated body.

#41 is a ''Camel bus'' from Havana, Cuba, International 9700 Eagle tractor I think



Good start Mudflap.
I have No.5 as from 1938 but sure it was still around in 39 so that's 2 pts, 1 for the ID and one for the year.

1 point for the Zonda open-top double-deck bus; operating where for another point?
1 point for the Micro Cars Sri Lankan Duo Deck
1 point for the Volvo bi-articulated bus; operating where for another point?
1 point for the Havana Camel Bus; I don't know what the tractor unit is so I can't realy give another point for that one..
So that's 6 points for now!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 02:09:49 PM »
Thank you!

The Volvo bi-articulated bus is operating in São Paulo, Brazil.

#42 is a Sunbeam trolleybus of Walsall Corporation.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 02:19:20 PM by Mudflap »

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 03:03:40 PM »
Crikey - that's a lot of buses. Hat's off to you, Carnut!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 03:10:40 PM »
The Volvo bi-articulated bus is operating in São Paulo, Brazil.

#42 is a Sunbeam trolleybus of Walsall Corporation.

Yes - so I'll give you a second point for the Brazilian Volvo and you are correct regarding #42 for 1 point; another if you can give me its year.

So you now have 8 points with a possible 1 more which would give you 9.
I trust you read my rules at the start which limits any one individual to a maximum of 12 points!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 03:31:22 PM »
The Sunbeam trolleybus is from 1954.

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 03:59:54 PM »
The Sunbeam trolleybus is from 1954.

Yes!
Another point.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 04:51:00 AM »
Bus experts amongst the Rookies seem to be thin on the ground, so let's see if there are any more amongst the Experts...
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 04:57:09 AM »
no.7 - could it be Robur from DDR?

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 05:28:26 AM »
no.7 - could it be Robur from DDR?

It could indeed!
That's all I know about that one so it's a point for you..
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 05:31:22 AM »
No. 30
Crossley Condor?
Built for the 1932 Scottish bus show, used bythe Manchester corperation

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2012, 05:49:02 AM »
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1938 Karrier E6


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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2012, 05:59:13 AM »
No. 30
Crossley Condor?
Built for the 1932 Scottish bus show, used bythe Manchester corperation

Yes, that's right!
2 points for you for that one.

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1938 Karrier E6



Not a Karrier.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2012, 06:46:27 AM »
#37 : Alfa Romeo 500 by Viberti (1938) - Studio mobile di registrazione E.I.A.R. (Italian television)
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2012, 07:22:09 AM »
#37 : Alfa Romeo 500 by Viberti (1938) - Studio mobile di registrazione E.I.A.R. (Italian television)

Correct!
Another point if you can tell me who designed this vehicle?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2012, 08:24:43 AM »
Mario Revelli di Beaumont
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2012, 09:21:52 AM »
Mario Revelli di Beaumont

That's the fellow!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2012, 04:36:42 PM »
Why did this spring to mind?

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Some talk of a Lagonda,
Some like a smart M.G.,
Or for Bonnie Army Lorry
They'd lay them doon and dee.
Such means of locomotion
Seem rather dull to us
The Driver and Conductor
Of a London Omnibus.

Hold very tight please, ting-ting!

When you are lost in London
And you don't know where you are,
You'll hear my voice a-calling:
'Pass further down the car!'
And very soon you'll find yourself
Inside the Terminus
In a London Transport
Diesel-engined
Ninety-seven horse-power
Omnibus!

Along the Queen's great highway
I drive my merry load
At twenty miles per hour
In the middle of the road;
We like to drive in convoys
We're most gregarious;
The big six-wheeler
Scarlet-painted
London Transport
Diesel-engined
Ninety-seven horse-power
Omnibus!

From A Drop of a Hat by Flanders and Swann


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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2012, 06:33:49 PM »
That's great!  Thank you for that D-Type.
Unfortunately not one of the pictures is of a London bus...

Did you know that Flanders of Flanders and Swann was Stephanie Flanders' Dad?  She of the BBC Economics Expert?!

I doubt if she recognises any of them either, so you're in good company!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 01:11:13 PM »
#1 seems interesting ... Something German? Swiss?