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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #75 on: February 12, 2012, 03:00:02 PM »
#32 : bodied by Duple  ?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #76 on: February 13, 2012, 06:00:37 AM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 12, 2012, 02:10:03 PM
Could No39 be an Opel Blitz?

Yes it could!
Give me the year and the point is yours.

Quote from: pnegyesi on February 12, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Does No32 feature Alexander bodywork?

Not Alexander, no.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #77 on: February 13, 2012, 06:01:03 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on February 12, 2012, 03:00:02 PM
#32 : bodied by Duple  ?

No, not Duple.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2012, 06:12:57 AM »
No39: 1936 operated by Josef Kottenstedte (The Netherlands)
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2012, 07:43:03 AM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 13, 2012, 06:12:57 AM
No39: 1936 operated by Josef Kottenstedte (The Netherlands)

I don't know the operator, but you're 1 year out from the year I have it as!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2012, 07:55:45 AM »
Year was taken from the home page of the Kottenstedte family:
1936
Gründung des Hauderergewerbes ("Mietkutscher") Zu dieser Zeit gab es nur wenig Kraftfahrzeuge auf dem Land. Die ersten Fahrzeuge waren ein 6-Sitzer-PKW, ein Lastkraftwagen Marke Opel Blitz sowie ein Omnibus.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2012, 08:00:58 AM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 13, 2012, 07:55:45 AM
Year was taken from the home page of the Kottenstedte family:
1936
Gründung des Hauderergewerbes ("Mietkutscher") Zu dieser Zeit gab es nur wenig Kraftfahrzeuge auf dem Land. Die ersten Fahrzeuge waren ein 6-Sitzer-PKW, ein Lastkraftwagen Marke Opel Blitz sowie ein Omnibus.

OK, maybe the chassis was made in 1935.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2012, 08:11:17 AM »
12 points still up for grabs:

#1: Model - 1 point
#6: Where this bus operates - 1 point
#8: Builder and operator - 2 points
#9: Identification - 1 point
#15: Identification - 1 point
#27: Where this bus operated - 1 point
#32: Make and coachbuilder - 2 points
#34: Purpose of bus - 1 point
#35: Make and coachbuilder - 2 points

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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2012, 08:18:21 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on February 13, 2012, 08:00:58 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 13, 2012, 07:55:45 AM
Year was taken from the home page of the Kottenstedte family:
1936
Gründung des Hauderergewerbes ("Mietkutscher") Zu dieser Zeit gab es nur wenig Kraftfahrzeuge auf dem Land. Die ersten Fahrzeuge waren ein 6-Sitzer-PKW, ein Lastkraftwagen Marke Opel Blitz sowie ein Omnibus.
OK, maybe the chassis was made in 1935.
The Opel Blitz in question was not the truck they bought in 1936, but a ~1935 chassis they rebuilt as a bus after WW II. (And they are not from the Netherlands, but from Ennigerloh-Ostenfelde in Gemany.)
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2012, 01:00:03 PM »
#1 : Alfa Romeo 110-AC from 1936 bodied by Macchi. Phew !
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #85 on: February 13, 2012, 06:09:46 PM »
Quote from: pguillem on February 13, 2012, 01:00:03 PM
#1 : Alfa Romeo 110-AC from 1936 bodied by Macchi. Phew !

Nearly! 110 does figure but it's based on a **-110 truck chassis!  What's the **?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #86 on: February 13, 2012, 08:53:04 PM »
#15 : from Belgium ?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #87 on: February 13, 2012, 10:11:35 PM »
Quote from: Carnut on February 13, 2012, 06:09:46 PM
Quote from: pguillem on February 13, 2012, 01:00:03 PM
#1 : Alfa Romeo 110-AC from 1936 bodied by Macchi. Phew !

Nearly! 110 does figure but it's based on a **-110 truck chassis!  What's the **?

Is it the Alfa Romeo 110 ?

>Since 1934 produced an updated version of the licensed Bussing truck with a streamlined cabin and radiator grille in the style of Alfa Romeo. This 5/6-ton truck got an >index "85" and was equipped with 11,560 cc engine from the Alfa Romeo “80” Model, which developed 110 hp. In 1935, the gas generator version "85-G" was presented. >It won the race on the route of Rome-Brussels-Paris. In 1938, 10-ton tri-axle model "110" was showed. It was equipped with 125 hp engine and became the basis for >large city buses.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2012, 04:53:46 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on February 13, 2012, 08:53:04 PM
#15 : from Belgium ?

No.

Quote from: pguillem on February 13, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
Quote from: Carnut on February 13, 2012, 06:09:46 PM
Quote from: pguillem on February 13, 2012, 01:00:03 PM
#1 : Alfa Romeo 110-AC from 1936 bodied by Macchi. Phew !

Nearly! 110 does figure but it's based on a **-110 truck chassis!  What's the **?

Is it the Alfa Romeo 110 ?

>Since 1934 produced an updated version of the licensed Bussing truck with a streamlined cabin and radiator grille in the style of Alfa Romeo. This 5/6-ton truck got an >index "85" and was equipped with 11,560 cc engine from the Alfa Romeo “80” Model, which developed 110 hp. In 1935, the gas generator version "85-G" was presented. >It won the race on the route of Rome-Brussels-Paris. In 1938, 10-ton tri-axle model "110" was showed. It was equipped with 125 hp engine and became the basis for >large city buses.

No, Alfa has already been established as has 110.
But since you mention the correct name further down you've got it.  It's the 85-110!
We've really got there so that's another point for you.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2012, 12:28:25 PM »
#15 is a Guy Victory Trambus of the Belgian SNCB/NMBS (which logo appears on the side of the bus)
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2012, 04:27:12 PM »
Quote from: pguillem on February 14, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
#15 is a Guy Victory Trambus of the Belgian SNCB/NMBS (which logo appears on the side of the bus)

Well done!  I didn't know about the Belgian connection hence my reply to your earlier question; sorry about that.  Have 2 points to compensate!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #91 on: February 14, 2012, 04:35:47 PM »
Quote from: Carnut on February 13, 2012, 08:11:17 AM
12 10 9 7 points still up for grabs:

#1: Model - 1 point
#6: Where this bus operates - 1 point
#8: Builder and operator - 2 points
#9: Identification - 1 point
#15: Identification - 1 point
#27: Where this bus operated - 1 point
#32: Make and coachbuilder - 2 points
#34: Purpose of bus - 1 point
#35: Make and coachbuilder - 2 points



At midday Friday 17th European time I'm lifting the 12 points per puzzler maximum but only to 16 points since there are only 10 points still left to garner (or maybe a few more for extra info).  I don't want just one puzzler pinching the lot immediately...
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #92 on: February 14, 2012, 09:27:30 PM »
#6 : Shanghai.  First tour February 8, 2007.
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2012, 02:46:43 AM »
No32: based on AEC Reliance?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #94 on: February 15, 2012, 03:15:24 AM »
No9: is it a VDL?
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #95 on: February 15, 2012, 05:27:53 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on February 14, 2012, 09:27:30 PM
#6 : Shanghai.  First tour February 8, 2007.

Shanghai it is!  1 more point..
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #96 on: February 15, 2012, 05:29:24 AM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 15, 2012, 02:46:43 AM
No32: based on AEC Reliance?

It's not an AEC at all (as per my reply #51!)

Quote from: pnegyesi on February 15, 2012, 03:15:24 AM
No9: is it a VDL?

That's very close; just one letter different from what I have, but description would still be needed too..
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #97 on: February 15, 2012, 05:50:45 AM »
No32. Eventually I found it by Googling "Bristol" "Eastern Coach Works" - though it is neither a Bristol or was bodied by ECW :)
SEV814 This Leyland PSU1/15 with a Thurgood 41 seat coach was new to Rose Brothers of Chelmsford in 1951. When Rose Brothers were purchased by Eastern National it was transferred to their fleet. It was photographed on 4th March 1962. Width set to 240!!!
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #98 on: February 15, 2012, 06:19:10 AM »
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 15, 2012, 05:50:45 AM
No32. Eventually I found it by Googling "Bristol" "Eastern Coach Works" - though it is neither a Bristol or was bodied by ECW :)
SEV814 This Leyland PSU1/15 with a Thurgood 41 seat coach was new to Rose Brothers of Chelmsford in 1951. When Rose Brothers were purchased by Eastern National it was transferred to their fleet. It was photographed on 4th March 1962. Width set to 240!!!

Good Googling!
Another 2 points..
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Re: Big Bus Puzzle No. 3
« Reply #99 on: February 15, 2012, 06:39:47 AM »
No35: German chassis?
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