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Solved - Take me to the Matador
« on: January 21, 2011, 03:13:02 PM »
My first try to create a group puzzle. Let's see if it will be appreciated  ;)

I start with seven pictures of trucks, all somehow related to the Tempo Matador. After that, you'll find seven pics of products built by those companies (or their predecessors or successors) who modified the before-mentioned Matadors. You can earn one point for each correct combination, if you can also name the company that modified the Matador. May the corrida begin!

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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2011, 03:15:33 PM »
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2011, 03:29:45 PM »
Very interesting!  :)
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2011, 04:07:49 PM »
Matador Match 05: Tempo Onieva Barreiros and Matador 07: Dodge 3700 GT by Barreiros Diesel.
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »
Correct  :thumbsup: (except that you mixed up the names to the numbers ;) )

BTW, points will be awarded, when the puzzle is completely solved.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2011, 04:16:53 PM by Wendax »
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 04:14:35 PM »
An overview which pairs were correctly found:

Matador 01: Street sweeper type Cannstatt by Streicher and Matador Match 02:  Kehrmaschine-Streicher-Konstruktion for road and rail use (Amsterdam)
Matador 02: Ruthmann Hubwagen and Matador Match 03: Ruthmann Steiger TU700 (Tom_I)
Matador 03: Mikafa Reisemobil and Matador Match 07: Horten H VII by Peschke Flugzeug-Werkstätten GmbH (Amsterdam)
Matador 04: 1958 Jensen Tempo 1500 and Matador Match 06: 1951 Jensen (JNSN) Light Weight Commercial (Amsterdam)
Matador 05: Eicher Farm-Express and Matador Match 04 Eicher Diesel Schlepper (Tom_I)
Matador 06: Matador Delivery Van by Bajaj matador LTD and Matador Match 01: Bajaj Avenger 200 DTS-i (Amsterdam)
Matador 07: Tempo Onieva Barreiros and Matador Match 05: Dodge 3700 GT by Barreiros Diesel (hondast)
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2011, 04:40:53 AM »
Matador 6 : Matador Delivery Van by Bajaj matador LTD and
Match   1 : The Bajaj Avenger 200 DTS-i

Matador 1: Street sweeper type Cannstatt by Company Streicher
Match   2:  Kehrmaschine -Streicher-Konstruktion

Matador 2: Matador Bomb carrier by Gothaer Waggonfabrik ??
Match   7: Horten H.IX (Ho 229) also known as Gotha Go.229
prototype fighter/bomber designed by Reimar and Walter Horten built by Gothaer Waggonfabrik
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2011, 01:54:59 PM »
Quote from: Amsterdam on January 22, 2011, 04:40:53 AM
Matador 6 : Matador Delivery Van by Bajaj matador LTD and
Match   1 : The Bajaj Avenger 200 DTS-i

Matador 1: Street sweeper type Cannstatt by Company Streicher
Match   2:  Kehrmaschine -Streicher-Konstruktion

Matador 2: Matador Bomb carrier by Gothaer Waggonfabrik ??
Match   7: Horten H.IX (Ho 229) also known as Gotha Go.229
prototype fighter/bomber designed by Reimar and Walter Horten built by Gothaer Waggonfabrik


Matador 6 - Match 1: correct  :thumbsup:

Matador 1 - Match 2: also correct  :thumbsup:

Matador 2 - Match 7: plane almost correct, but wrong match, wrong company, and I don't think Matador 2 ever carried bombs :thumbsdown:

Don't give up, two points are already yours  :applause:
« Last Edit: January 22, 2011, 02:00:36 PM by Wendax »
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2011, 02:06:53 PM »
Is the plane is by Reimar and Walter Horten though?
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 02:16:57 PM »
Yes, the plane is a Horten.

Matador Match 07 locked for you til your next reply. All other unsolved Matador Matches remain open.
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 06:05:51 AM »
Thanks for the lock but I kind of stuck on that one.

according to my new info Match 7 : Is the Horten H VII with Luftwaffe designation 8-254 which was a training aircraft prototype built by the Peschke factory in Minden.

The problem is that I cannot find any Matador connection with Peschke and as far as I know the firm itself was a furniture building company and knew nothing about aircraft design.

If I take another guess I would connect Match 7 to Matador 3 which seems to be a Matador Reisemobil, and  Peschke maybe built in the furniture???.

Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks on this one with the info so far.

My compliments on this hard to crack puzzle as I've know clue on the other matches.


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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 06:31:41 AM »
Congratulations, you've recognized the correct match to the plane, which you also recognized correctly. The company Peschke is correct and the name Reisemobil for the Matador is correct. In my opinion, the point is earned.   :applause:


If you like (just for fun), you can still find out the name of the company, that succeeded Peschke and built the Reisemobil. It is quite well known in connection with Tempo. In fact, if you google "Peschke Reisemobil", you'll find that name on the first page of results. :)
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 07:00:46 AM »
Thank you. and you are probably referring to MIKAFA

To be honest I thought at first that Mikafa would be the company connected to Matador 3, but searching on MIKAFA I could not make a match.
Now I know why  ;)
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 07:07:54 AM »
Yes, it's Mikafa, usually known for their early integral motorhomes, even with BMW V8 engines. 
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 08:08:25 AM »
Now I have small problem.

I know for sure that Matador 4: Is a 1958 Jensen Tempo 1500

The only connection to Jensen I did not find mong the matches but among the Matadors. That would be Matador 2  :-\

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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 08:17:29 AM »
I think you're starting to have fun. :)

Well done, Amsterdam, the Matador 04 is a Jensen Tempo 1500. Jensen didn't build them, they only rebadged them and sold them as Jensens. And that is the reason, why they also sold the Elevator Truck, which in fact is built by another company. And, bad news for you, there is a Jensen amongst the Matador Matches, and it ain't an Interceptor. ;)

Matador 04 locked for you till your next reply. Good luck!
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 08:25:58 AM »
I am always having fun on AP   ;D

So Matador 4 :  1958 Jensen Tempo 1500
To Match 6: 1951 Jensen (JNSN)Light Weight Commercial ( aluminum and fiberglass body, Perkins diesel engine)
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 08:38:42 AM »
Absolutely correct!

Another point for you. Two Matadors left, Toro!
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 08:47:32 AM »
Perhaps I'll have a go while there are a couple left.

I think Matador 02, the elevator truck, would have been built in about 1951 by Ruthmann of Gescher, Westphalia.

And I think this links with Match 03, which is a Ruthmann Steiger TU700 hydraulic boom truck set up for fire-fighting, and specially designed and built for the city of Rostov am Don, in Russia.
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2011, 08:59:11 AM »
Absolutely correct  :thumbsup:

That leaves one pair left. No point for the last combination without the right company  ;)
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2011, 11:42:56 AM »
So that leaves Matador 5 and match 4
Is the match a German tractor manufacturer that we're looking for?
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2011, 11:52:48 AM »
You are on the right track. Since many German tractors from the 50s onward were easy to tell their manufacturer just by plain sight, I took an older one. But as I said at the top of the puzzle, the company name is sufficient. You don't have to identify the tractor. It would be nice to identify the Matador, though.
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2011, 12:00:09 PM »
First guess will be : Hanomag Kurier Pritsche ?
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2011, 12:04:42 PM »
No, it's not a Hanomag Kurier.
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Re: Take me to the Matador
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2011, 12:14:55 PM »
I think Matador 5 is an Eicher Farm Express from about 1963, made at Forstern, Oberbayern. This was based on a Matador, but had a 3.9-litre diesel engine, and was said to be able to tow a payload of up to 65 tonnes! I am guessing that Match 4 is an Eicher tractor, but I haven't been able to make a positive identification. An early 22 PS model, perhaps?
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