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Solved: PN #203 - Hainan, 1970
« on: July 01, 2011, 10:49:24 AM »
Please identify this minibus for a point. In addition to its name, I'd welcome a model year too.
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2011, 02:41:16 AM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2011, 08:45:21 AM »
Chinese?

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Re: PN #203
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2011, 09:45:48 AM »
Yes
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2011, 01:50:49 PM »
1950-1960 era?

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Re: PN #203
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2011, 03:00:33 PM »
No, a bit younger
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 03:20:24 AM »
Professionals?
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 03:33:23 AM »
Is there a Romanian connection? (MTD = Mao Tse Dun?)

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Re: PN #203
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 04:02:51 AM »
I don't think so, I did not find any Romanian connections
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 12:47:38 PM »
There's a car manufacturer in the region where this one was made
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 03:58:17 PM »
The Black Hole
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2011, 07:02:09 PM »
Hainan Passenger. China.
"April 21, 1970, Hainan auto repair shop the first successful trial of a "Hainan" brand passenger cars.
September 1970, the first batch of " Hainan "brand car was born. Hainan automobile repair shop workers, cadres and technical personnel, to promote "independent, self-reliance," the spirit of the original soil with factory equipment of the first batch of "Hainan" brand car. The picture shows the staff who are serious about testing the car factory
October 1, 1970, Haikou workers riding on the "Hainan" brand cars, soldiers and civilians to participate in the sea region to celebrate 21 anniversary of the founding of New China demonstrations.   Today, car manufacturers are in the pipeline to complete, but in the early 1970s, Hainan and other simple tools with a hammer, a hand-made car, has created a miracle in the country have a great response. Old photographs show this group in 1970, Hainan is the first local production of cars. Hainan can not manufacture cars?   The end of 1969, "Red Flag" a news magazine: Jiangxi car factory to create a " Jinggangshan card "car. This caused great repercussions in Hainan.   Hainan, at the time, transportation is relatively backward, especially regional, county and rural communes car companies can not meet the industrial transportation of agricultural production development.   "At that time on the road in Hainan, occasionally to see the car, and sometimes even see a car a few days." Hainan old auto repair shop workers Zhengyou Fu said: "The thing produced, in particular, basic agricultural products is pulled by animals way to transport people to pick. "   era, the car is the state planning and control products, as Hainan does not produce cars, you need to line up to apply to the Mainland, and occasionally buy a car is painstakingly. At that time, some rural communes and enterprises have to adopt a barter approach to the Mainland for second-hand cars.   In order to develop urban and rural exchanges to facilitate the life of the masses, the Hainan government agencies, grass-roots units and ordinary people have raised a question: "can manufacture cars in Jiangxi, Hainan can not manufacture a car?"   The questions we ask, auto repair shop in Hainan cadres, workers caused great shock, but most people lack confidence in the manufacture of cars. They believe that an auto repair shop can repair cars, car manufacturing is impossible.   Later, the organization of party and government leaders in Hainan, the entire factory workers to serious discussion, analysis, favorable and unfavorable factors, and recalled the 1958 "Great Leap Forward" period of self-reliance to create two Eastern red tractor scene. Finally, the workers agreed that, as long as soaring energy and revolutionary combination of serious scientific attitude, the spirit of the masters used to work up a solid, is able to produce cars.   Beginning of 1970, auto repair shop technicians, workers, cadres and form study groups to learn car factory in Jiangxi. Learning time is not long, but the spirit of self-car factory in Jiangxi and manufacture of automotive experience, but also strengthened their confidence in the car manufacturing Hainan.   Study group came back, the car repair shop reported to the Revolutionary Committee of Hainan approval, decided to manufacture cars, and named the "Hainan card." Self-reliance knockout "Hainan" brand cars  have no experience, no data, no special equipment and tooling, all from scratch. Zhengyou Fu recalled: "It was the most favorable conditions, is able to got a car, shining like painting drawing out the design."   Hainan is a former auto repair shop to take over the KMT in the liberation garage. Liberation, in the "Great Leap Forward" inspired by the spirit, the repair shop for a number of technical innovations, although the number of machinery and equipment has increased considerably, but the actual usage and benefits of play is not high. Particularly affected by the ultra-leftist ideas, some successful innovative equipment only good news, most of the waste material is converted and the old patchwork, and can not play a role in production.   There was a major problem is the lack of professional and technical personnel. Trial before the end of 1968 and early 1969, the factory engineers and technical staff have been most decentralized "57" cadre school work, only two or three technical staff.   Liu Dejie older workers could have been a fitter, but they assume the "Hainan" brand engine research the task. He and more than 100 workers at the plant day and night fighting. Meanwhile, there are hundreds of people to participate in the cab, car, flywheel, transmission housings, clutch plate, eccentric shaft, tire rims, cylinders and other parts of the joint conference of dozens of war.   Encouraged by the energy workers, factory revolutionary committee that "create 'Hainan card', to the May Day gift," the battle cry. By this time, only two months away from May Day.   Liu Dejie that time, workers' revolution enthusiasm and vigor, and everyone into the car to the manufacturing, auto repair shop in a chorus of hammer beating pan, around the clock.   In the case of machinery and equipment not dedicated, the first automobile mold is carved out of wood, made ​​after the model casting, and then manually processed. Automotive engine is the most important parts, the most difficult to make, there is no ready-made to mimic, the workers usually rely on auto repair experience, thousands of tests, to explore, with soil the machine, he just made ​​a big hammer car engine, cylinder, crankshaft and other major components, and in the manufacture of two successful before May Day, "Hainan" brand car.   This time success, to get higher praise revolutionary committee. Factory Revolutionary momentum that "made 20 'Hainan card' to the National Day gift," the larger goal.   Trial two cars, because car has not been established, the entire cab, bonnet are all knocked out by hand. Because of the time, has not developed specialized equipment. If the two cars made ​​by two months, the speed of calculation, to the National Day of five months, resulting in a maximum of six vehicles.   Mass production of "Hainan" brand cars, by hand is certainly not knock out. Works to organize a revolutionary committee in the whole plant equipment, technical innovation and research activities, plane, adhere to the ideological work is to try the production scheduling is to try to practice technical guidance to the scene. Edge production, while test, while the reform package Tau quickly made ​​bed, Distributor Rotor boring machine, six-axis boring machine, crankshaft machines and some other plane.   With these home-made device plane, there are four days away from the National Day, when workers finally made ​​21 "Hainan" brand cars, created the first mass-produced car in Hainan's history. Guangzhou Exhibition "rave reviews"  Autumn 1970, Autumn Fair held in Guangzhou, Hainan, people go through a "Hainan" brand car, the various responses described as a "rave reviews."   "Our country can not manufacture cars, you can build up a small factory, really great." This is a Vietnamese Consulate in Guangzhou, after the visit of the evaluation.   Zhengyou Fu said during the trade fair, Guangdong auto repair a plant shutdown holiday a special day to let the factory workers on-site visit, "Hainan card" kind of car.   "Hainan" brand cars on display, but also to attract the eyes of many customers, they have demanded order. At that time"
 
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Re: PN #203
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2011, 09:15:55 PM »
Yes, as it turns out this image wasn't Google Images-proof either
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Re: Solved: PN #203 - Hainan, 1970
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 05:13:52 AM »
Maybe Skoda-based?

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Re: Solved: PN #203 - Hainan, 1970
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2011, 05:16:47 AM »
Unfortunately I don't know
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