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Solved: PN #191 -- Minsheng, 1931
« on: June 05, 2011, 12:06:30 PM »
Identify this truck for a point. I'll need make, model name and model year to give you that point
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 11:43:44 PM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2011, 05:26:12 PM »
American?

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 10:58:28 PM »
There's a connection to USA, but it was not made there
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2011, 03:18:10 AM »
This was the closest that I could get to this truck chassis, I know that you stated that is was not built in the U.S.A. but this was so close..I have to take a chance & see if this is it.  1932 Studebaker S series truck of up to 2 tons. In 1930 Studebaker Pierce Arrow(SPA) aquired Whit & Indiana trucks thus making 4 brands of trucks availabe..this is one of those trucks. The venture failed..due to the depression & Studebaker sold its interest in White & Indiana trucks.

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2011, 04:07:06 AM »
Unfortunately nothing to do with Studebaker
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2011, 01:26:47 PM »
Made in USSR?

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2011, 01:52:11 PM »
No
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 11:41:49 PM »
I think it's time for our professionals to have their say
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2011, 02:42:45 AM »
Hmm, it is very difficult to give you clues. Not European or American (neither North nor South)
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 01:10:23 AM »
Soon you'll solve this very quickly, but in the meantime, I can add that this is not from Africa either
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2011, 04:39:50 AM »
Is Scandinavia also excluded as a country of manufacture?
If it isn't I was going to suggest Bur-Wain, essentially an American Stewart chassis assembled in Denmark by Burmeister & Wain 1938-1940.

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2011, 10:22:16 AM »
As I said it is not European
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2011, 02:38:03 PM »
Hijiri 2 tonner from Japan, similar to the US Ford model BB c.1935?

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2011, 03:18:29 PM »
Now you are at least in the right continent!
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2011, 04:12:32 PM »
Perhaps a Japanese Chiyoda?

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2011, 10:49:20 PM »
I said continent, not country :)
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 01:43:03 AM »
Let's go back a few steps.
Is it Chinese?

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 02:15:09 AM »
Yes, it is Chinese
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Re: PN #191
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 01:43:40 PM »
The only Chinese truck manufacturer that I can find that was in existence prior to WW II is Min Sheng 1934-1937.
I know nothing else about it.

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Re: PN #191
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2011, 01:56:02 PM »
Yes, this is the first Minsheng truck from 1931. I found this picture together with a bunch of others at the National Archives in College Park, Washington.
It turned out that Erik from the Chinese Motor Vehicle is in the middle of writing a history of this truck, and these images were unknown to him :)
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Re: Solved: PN #191 -- Minsheng, 1931
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2011, 03:58:34 AM »
There's a connection to USA...

And that is....?

On another note, the puzzle truck looks to be beyond the capabilities of a 1st-time truck builder. That could be a B-series Mack from the early 1930's.

I have this picture of the 1931 Minsheng, which seems more consistent with a country that entered the 20th century 3 decades later than most:
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Re: Solved: PN #191 -- Minsheng, 1931
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2011, 08:13:07 AM »
Otto: that is not the Minsheng, that is another truck from China.

Minsheng: the connection is that the designer of the Minsheng was an American engineer.

When I get home next week, I'll share more of the story
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Re: Solved: PN #191 -- Minsheng, 1931
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2011, 08:15:10 AM »
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Re: Solved: PN #191 -- Minsheng, 1931
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2013, 05:54:29 PM »
Otto: that is not the Minsheng, that is another truck from China.

Minsheng: the connection is that the designer of the Minsheng was an American engineer.

When I get home next week, I'll share more of the story
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