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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2010, 12:49:27 PM »
This one is very complex, ans I have also seen this same car/photo captioned as a Buckler, as well as the first Rochdale and Turner.  It seems all three marques used this same body, with Buckler supplying the spaceframe chassic.  And there was me thinking that life was meant to be simple in the 1950s!
Turner used a large-tube ladder chassis so did not use Buckler spaceframe chassis so far as I remember.
The other point to quibble about is that until the 803, Jack Turner did not supply "kit cars".
As Tom_I stated above it looks quite like 004a and I can see no similarity to any Rochdale body I've ever seen.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2010, 12:57:11 PM »
I would agree - it looks like Turner chassis 004A

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2010, 06:35:43 PM »
The caption next to the photo on the Turner stand at the N.E.C. said as follows:

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Jack's first foray into car production was building eight chassis supplied with a choice of engines, which the customer would have bodied to their own taste.  One of the chassis became a Formula 2 racing car for John Webb (of Webb Corbett fame).  The picture shows chassis No. 5 supplied to Ron Hill, whose company Hills Fibreglass Developments of Wednesfield produced the body.
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Now I understand that the first Turner chassis were 1951/1953 and I don't believe that this body could date from then.  The chassis might have done, and the car might have been rebodied much later as has been suggested.  The caption might not even have referred to the puzzle photo, but there wasn't another one nearby that it might have referred to!
So it seems to be the car that sits on Turner chassis no.5 dating from 1952/3 rebodied later but don't know if the caption refers to the later body or its original one.

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2010, 03:24:48 AM »
Well Turner ch. no. 005 looked like this at one time:


which has the same registration number as the puzzle car, which supports Carnut's analysis.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2010, 05:22:06 AM »
Which is what I said back in reply #9!

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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2010, 06:33:25 AM »
Which is what I said back in reply #9!
Yes of course it is, now I remember/look back, but it seemed to have been ignored.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2010, 09:19:08 AM »
Which is what I said back in reply #9!

Quite so!  I hadn't forgotten what you said!
But I don't know if the Hills Fibreglass Developments body is this one or the earlier one.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2011, 09:59:17 AM »
I mention this in case anyone is interested:

Jack Turner died on Monday 7th March.
He was 94 years of age.
At least he has left a nice legacy of cars named after him so he will always be remembered.
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2015, 10:24:30 AM »
These pictures are of the same car, or at least of the same body on a Turner chassis!
Whether or not it's the same chassis is open to conjecture; it's said to be either chassis 004 or 005 so has been given '004A' in case they find another 004!
Either way the registration number is different..
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Re: SOLVED: Djetset #282 - First Rochdale/Turner kit car
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2023, 07:36:14 AM »
and car #41 has a Rochdale MkVI body fitted
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