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Solved - MJW #403 - Leyland Lion 5/8ths scale replica built by Sandy Fraser
« on: May 10, 2011, 01:42:31 AM »
First bus puzzle from me.
Make and model required.
It's a replica, so who built it and what is special about it.
Full answer necessary for a point.
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 11:26:25 PM »
Expert help required
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 04:20:28 AM »
Is this a 1929 Leyland Lion with a replica body made and fitted in 2007 in Scoular, Edinburgh, for a Scottish bus museum?
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2011, 08:10:31 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on May 18, 2011, 04:20:28 AM
Is this a 1929 Leyland Lion with a replica body made and fitted in 2007 in Scoular, Edinburgh, for a Scottish bus museum?
That may well be correct.
It is a Leyland Lion of the 1920s.
Who was the man who made it and what is "different" about it (compared to the ordinary Leyland Lion)?
Locked for you as I think you are on the right track (I believe it was made in Scotland and it's not a 'one-off')
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2011, 09:33:12 AM »
If this is indeed the bus I think it is it started life in January 1929 as Hants & Dorset Fleet No. 268, a Leyland Lion registered RU 8678.

In later life it served as a mobile shop at car events for the book/car spares shop "The Complete Automobilist"  in the 1970's before eventually being rescued and having a 'spare' restored ex-Ribble Leyland body fitted to it by Dougie and Ross Scoular in 2007.  It now resides in the Scottish Bus Museum.

If it's not that bus then for the moment I have idea what else it could be!
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 02:08:26 PM »
As Carnut has now replied I assume it is OK to answer. The vehicle shown is a 5/8 scale replica of a Leyland Lion built by Sandy Fraser of Lion Omnibuses in Wiltshire. It is actually modelled on the full size vehicle referred to by Carnut above which was owned by Sandy Fraser and used in relation to his previous business 'The Complete Automobilist Ltd’.  
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 06:38:51 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on May 18, 2011, 09:33:12 AM
If this is indeed the bus I think it is it started life in January 1929 as Hants & Dorset Fleet No. 268, a Leyland Lion registered RU 8678.

In later life it served as a mobile shop at car events for the book/car spares shop "The Complete Automobilist"  in the 1970's before eventually being rescued and having a 'spare' restored ex-Ribble Leyland body fitted to it by Dougie and Ross Scoular in 2007.  It now resides in the Scottish Bus Museum.

If it's not that bus then for the moment I have idea what else it could be!
Thanks Carnut but that's not the vehicle although the puzzle vehicle was probably modeled on it.
I see that Austin has jumped in following your reply with what appears to be the correct answer.
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2011, 06:48:39 AM »
Quote from: Austin on May 18, 2011, 02:08:26 PM
As Carnut has now replied I assume it is OK to answer. The vehicle shown is a 5/8 scale replica of a Leyland Lion built by Sandy Fraser of Lion Omnibuses in Wiltshire. It is actually modelled on the full size vehicle referred to by Carnut above which was owned by Sandy Fraser and used in relation to his previous business 'The Complete Automobilist Ltd’.  
Strictly speaking you should wait until I unlock it after I've been given a chance to reply.

Anyway you have the right answer - it is 5/8ths scale replica of the real bus built by Sandy Fraser.
He also built other small commercial replicas and was known for his three-wheelers in the car world.

Another couple of views of the vehicles and the man himself -
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2011, 07:30:06 AM »
Why not 1/2 scale... :)
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 08:45:42 AM »
Sorry about that, noted for future reference (I'm still quite new here!). I only answered because Carnut stated  'If it's not that bus then for the moment I have idea what else it could be!' and I'd been waiting for it to be moved to the expert section. If Carnut had been on the right lines I wouldn't have done so.
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2011, 09:04:00 AM »
Quote from: Austin on May 19, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
Sorry about that, noted for future reference (I'm still quite new here!). I only answered because Carnut stated  'If it's not that bus then for the moment I have idea what else it could be!' and I'd been waiting for it to be moved to the expert section. If Carnut had been on the right lines I wouldn't have done so.

No problem for me.  I don't think I would have got it.
Anycase, the more points I don't get the longer I can continue to participate in the Expert puzzles!
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2011, 09:08:25 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on May 19, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
Anycase, the more points I don't get the longer I can continue to participate in the Expert puzzles!
Nine points for that reply! ;D
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2011, 01:55:13 PM »
Quote from: Austin on May 19, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
Sorry about that, noted for future reference (I'm still quite new here!). I only answered because Carnut stated  'If it's not that bus then for the moment I have idea what else it could be!' and I'd been waiting for it to be moved to the expert section. If Carnut had been on the right lines I wouldn't have done so.
No problem....
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 01:57:20 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on May 19, 2011, 09:08:25 AM
Quote from: Carnut on May 19, 2011, 09:04:00 AM
Anycase, the more points I don't get the longer I can continue to participate in the Expert puzzles!
Nine points for that reply! ;D
Be careful, some people are willing you on to pass the 200 mark!  ;D
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Re: MJW #403
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 08:06:27 PM »
Cheers Carnut and Woodinsight, much appreciated.
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