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Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« on: December 04, 2011, 06:06:41 AM »
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Re: grob 2011_12_04 (01) easy...
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 08:08:52 AM »
1931 Burney Streamliner

Was too advanced for it's time.
12 or 13 made
Prince of whales had one.



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Re: grob 2011_12_04 (01) easy...
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 08:13:36 AM »
Quote
1931 Burney Streamliner
Yes, that´s the left one.

Can you tell me the year of the right one? And maybe tha basis car?

Then you´ll get the point!


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Re: LOCKED grob 2011_12_04 (01)
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 08:37:16 AM »
The prototype (1928) ?
used a reversed Alvis 12/75 engine and chassis, as the Alvis was a front wheel drive the steering had to be locked and a steering axle at the other end.
The designer Sir Charles Burney was also involved in the design of the ill fated R100.

Other engines used, at the Jam Factory Maidenhead, were 3Ltr Beverley straight 8, Armstrong Siddley 20hp six and a Lycoming straight 8.
Had around independent suspension

Patent was bought by Crossley in 1933


I also read the car was about 20 foot long with a top speed of 40mph.
More like a small Lorry than a car  ;D

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Re: LOCKED grob 2011_12_04 (01)
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 10:17:54 AM »
After having found this Popular Science piece from december 1930, I think, both have been finished at the same time.

The 1928 prototype had a low and rounder nose. It seems to be the car in the middle you can see from the side.

The cars on top are the ones I´ve asked for.
I think, that both are 2 variations of a theme. They were taylor made anyway.

So I decide to award you the point in any case:

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 10:47:52 AM »
From this advert, it seems you could opt for either of the two frontal designs for the same price. However, only the straight-fronted one came with a guarantee that the car would do 80 mph.


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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 12:04:33 PM »
Thank you for the ad!

But the upper car in the advert is not the right one in the puzzle pic.

if you have closer look, the car in the puzzle pic has a clearly visible front hood (that could be opened?)
the upper car in the ad has slightly different front beams and no visible front hood
Strange - there were at least three body styles

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 12:43:11 PM »
The upper car in the ad is the one shown in the middle of your Popular Science article, which you think is probably the 1928 prototype. My guess is that when this advert was put together, they had only built two cars, and that the "production" straight-fronted type, when they eventually built one, was slightly different from the prototype.

The photo of the two cars at the top of the magazine article shows the straight-fronted one on trade number plates, perhaps meaning that it was so new that it had not yet been registered. The bonnet-fronted car has a standard UK registration number.

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 12:51:04 PM »
Agreed.
It is not too easy for me to discuss those details not in my mother tongue.
But I totally agree with you now.
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Re: grob 2011_12_04 (01) easy...
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 01:32:47 PM »
1931 Burney Streamliner

Prince of whales had one.




What - was it amphibious as well?!
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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 01:37:05 PM »
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Re: grob 2011_12_04 (01) easy...
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 07:52:46 AM »
1931 Burney Streamliner

Prince of whales had one.




What - was it amphibious as well?!





Damn typo hahahaha

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 08:03:29 AM »
It seems, via wikipedia, that all thirteen that were made were different and were made as show cases for his patents rather than serious production.


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Re: LOCKED grob 2011_12_04 (01)
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 09:47:02 AM »
The designer Sir Charles Burney was also involved in the design of the ill fated R100.
Just a couple of points:
Sir Charles Dennistoun Burney Bt. was normally referred to in period as Dennis, later Sir Dennis, Burney - as he was in that Popular Science article.
R100, the Vickers airship, was not as ill-fated as R101, the government 'ship, except that following the latter's disastrous end R100 was scrapped without further ado.
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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 05:53:41 PM »
Sorry about that as you say R101 was the tragedy

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2012, 09:01:04 AM »
A rare 1931 photo:

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2012, 10:35:20 AM »
I´ve just found two photos of a 1932 version which is quite different in all details:

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2013, 12:07:52 PM »
A nice view:

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Re: Burney Streamliner, two 1930 versions
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2013, 04:17:08 PM »
Nice, indeed! Thank you for posting.