Author Topic: Solved -PJ374- Customized Hispano Suiza H6B from the movie "My lips betray", 1933 (Read 981 times)

Paul Jaray · « **on:** January 07, 2011, 01:53:36 PM »

Here you are a car.
It may be a repost but I couldn't find it.
1 point for the complete story behind this car.

João · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2011, 02:13:01 PM »

This one? :

Vincent Vell Vet · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2011, 03:47:28 PM »

Rebuilt from an old bus? ? ?
They should have left it as a bus!!!

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #3 on:** January 07, 2011, 05:56:03 PM »

I knew this article was around, but many things are wrong there....I'm looking for the story behind this car...and it was not based on a bus.
New pic:

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2011, 08:59:00 AM »

I know it's a long shot, but perhaps it started as a Checker Model M?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2011, 09:03:15 AM »

Wow, they really look alike!
But unfortunately it's not...

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:18:30 AM »

She looks like a Ziegfeld Girl - is she one?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:22:06 AM »

No, she is not...but there is a reason why you can see her in each pic with this car...and this (easy) reason may lead you to the solution.

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:36:47 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2011, 10:22:06 AM

No, she is not...but there is a reason why you can see her in each pic with this car...and this (easy) reason may lead you to the solution.

A movie about Shangri-La, perhaps?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2011, 10:43:18 AM »

A movie is correct.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2011, 11:01:57 AM »

Was this movie made in 1934?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2011, 11:29:24 AM »

Something to do with Oz? The windows seems Munchkin-sized.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2011, 12:57:28 PM »

Quote from: pnegyesi on January 09, 2011, 11:01:57 AM

Was this movie made in 1934?

One year earlier.

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 09, 2011, 11:29:24 AM

Something to do with Oz? The windows seems Munchkin-sized.

Nothing.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2011, 01:46:44 PM »

1933 was a bumper year for movies. Queen Christina, King Kong, Duck Soup - just a few of the classics.
So was this a romantic movie?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2011, 02:28:01 PM »

Quote from: pnegyesi on January 09, 2011, 01:46:44 PM

1933 was a bumper year for movies. Queen Christina, King Kong, Duck Soup - just a few of the classics.
So was this a romantic movie?

I'm sure it was romantic also but, according to IMDB, it was of a different genre.

D-type · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2011, 02:44:03 PM »

Was the movie an update of Cinderella?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #16 on:** January 09, 2011, 02:59:16 PM »

Quote from: D-type on January 09, 2011, 02:44:03 PM

Was the movie an update of Cinderella?

fyreline · « **Reply #17 on:** January 09, 2011, 03:07:07 PM »

I believe this is, underneath all the Hollywood make-up, a 1923 Hispano Suiza H6A. The car appeared in the 1933 movie "My Lips Betray". Supposedly the car was bought by the Hollywood director D.W. Griffith for $35,000. A car which may or may not be the same vehicle (but now with SIX WHEELS!) resides in the Forney Transportation Museum in Denver, Colorado.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #18 on:** January 09, 2011, 04:15:27 PM »

You mean the six-wheeled 1923 Hispano Suiza Victoria Town Car Model H6A?

It has very similar front lights and a similar size.

Maybe it´s the same car - maybe not...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #19 on:** January 09, 2011, 04:21:27 PM »

Quote from: fyreline on January 09, 2011, 03:07:07 PM

I believe this is, underneath all the Hollywood make-up, a 1923 Hispano Suiza H6A. The car appeared in the 1933 movie "My Lips Betray". Supposedly the car was bought by the Hollywood director D.W. Griffith for $35,000. A car which may or may not be the same vehicle (but now with SIX WHEELS!) resides in the Forney Transportation Museum in Denver, Colorado.

We have a winner!
All you wrote matches with my sources!

grobmotorix · « **Reply #20 on:** January 09, 2011, 04:26:05 PM »

I had the Hispano on my HD for years and I´ve done some research, too.
But I´ve never seen the Hollywood version with 4 wheels.
Some sources tell that it might have started as a project for George II. of Greece in 1922-23 at Binder/Paris.

Due to monetary problems the project was stopped and eventually the car has been sold to Mr. Griffith and turned out to change int the movie car.

I think that the 3 axle construction has been planned at this point of time already. The enormous rear of the movie car indicates that there may even has been the third axle before...

All in all I think it is a very interesting story.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #21 on:** January 09, 2011, 05:07:14 PM »

I had it too, but then I found different pictures of the Movie car and the story...the 6-wheels conversion is the missing part of it.

fyreline · « **Reply #22 on:** January 09, 2011, 05:38:17 PM »

I've actually seen the 6-wheeled version at the Forney Museum, but I don't recall any signs or information there discussing the conversion (if any). My own opinion - and that's all it is - is that this is in fact the same car. I also agree that there's certainly room for the tag axle beneath all that Hollywood bodywork.

I've also seen the references here and there to King George II of Greece, and to the coachbuilder Binder of Paris . . . but really, who could blame either of them for not more strongly claiming a connection with this car? Unique it certainly may be, but beautiful it is not. Thanks for posting it, it's still an interesting story.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2012, 05:10:11 AM »

And another photo of this strange creation:

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Author Topic: Solved -PJ374- Customized Hispano Suiza H6B from the movie "My lips betray", 1933 (Read 981 times)