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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2012, 06:50:49 PM »
Can you tell what marque it might be?

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2012, 11:35:59 AM »
Time to be promoted.

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2012, 04:50:03 AM »
It looks sort of British made to me, RHD and Lucas? headlamps. Was it made by a company within the Rootes Group?

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2012, 05:04:15 AM »
Pros?

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2012, 05:05:26 AM »
Not even close?

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2012, 05:22:37 AM »
I don“t think there“s any major british part in this on.

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2012, 05:34:26 AM »
Looks much more American to me.
I can almost see Humphrey Bogart behind the wheel...
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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2012, 05:40:16 AM »
It is american, yes.

The show where it has been photographed took place in London, though.

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2012, 07:26:10 AM »
base Chrysler 1937 ?

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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2012, 07:39:18 AM »
Or is it a Willys?
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Re: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2012, 07:55:14 AM »
LOCKED for SACO.

It is a Chrysler, but not from 37...

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Re: LOCKED for SACO grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2012, 08:07:02 AM »
I don't know if it's the same car ?

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Re: LOCKED for SACO grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2012, 08:14:05 AM »
I“m quite sure it is!

Your photo must have been shot some decades later.
It has lost its rear wheel flaps and I just need some more information to give you this point...

Maybe the headlights are from Lucas?

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Re: LOCKED for SACO grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2012, 10:17:22 PM »
I know this one's locked, and I'm not going to attempt to offer a solution, but look at the front door handles on the first car in the puzzle and then the white car suggested as being the same.  Unless it's concept car with different features on either side, they're not the same.

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Re: LOCKED for SACO grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2012, 01:46:43 AM »
No ,sorry ,I don't know !

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Re: LOCKED for SACO grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2012, 01:50:18 AM »
Oh, I can sse it, too.

The doors are different. But I still think both cars must have been built by one company.

I“ll unlock it again..

It“s open for all...

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Re: Chrysler mystery: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2012, 02:06:07 AM »

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Re: Chrysler mystery: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2012, 02:12:54 AM »
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I believe it's the same car.

I agree. And think it may be made up of quite a few British components.

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Re: Chrysler mystery: grob 2012_05_11 (05)
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2012, 02:27:20 AM »
Thank you Joćo.

Shame on me. :bag:

Don“t ask me why, but I did not find it via the search button function...

May some administrator please merge both puzzles?

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Re: Solved - PJ366- Eyston Super Power Chrysler Sport Saloon 1937
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2012, 02:33:39 AM »
Merged.

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Re: Solved - PJ366- Eyston Super Power Chrysler Sport Saloon 1937
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2012, 03:25:00 AM »
Danke.

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Re: Solved - PJ366- Eyston Super Power Chrysler Sport Saloon 1937
« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2012, 10:21:54 AM »
This is one (two?) of those puzzles that points out "The Pierce-Arrow Rule":  If the headlights are smoothly blended into the fenders, it was never intended for distribution in the U.S. before 1938.  Until the moment Pierce-Arrow went out of business, only their cars were allowed to have this feature in the U.S.

When this puzzle appeared, and was confirmed as a Chrysler, The Pierce-Arrow Rule implied it had to be European, or a limited-production model.

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Re: Solved - PJ366- Eyston Super Power Chrysler Sport Saloon 1937
« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2012, 02:08:03 PM »
Wow, thank you!

I“ve never heard about this fact, but it sounds quite reasonable.

That“s why I love this website!

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Re: Solved - PJ366- Eyston Super Power Chrysler Sport Saloon 1937
« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2012, 02:13:57 PM »
This is one (two?) of those puzzles that points out "The Pierce-Arrow Rule":  If the headlights are smoothly blended into the fenders, it was never intended for distribution in the U.S. before 1938.  Until the moment Pierce-Arrow went out of business, only their cars were allowed to have this feature in the U.S.

When this puzzle appeared, and was confirmed as a Chrysler, The Pierce-Arrow Rule implied it had to be European, or a limited-production model.

Could you expand on that "Pierce-Arrow" rule a bit?  I've never heard of it.

Thanks,

RtR


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Re: Solved - PJ366- Eyston Super Power Chrysler Sport Saloon 1937
« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2012, 03:37:52 PM »
Possible "old wives tale".  Pierce-Arrow received a patent on "headlights integrated into fenders" in 1913.  After that, most of their cars used this feature.  Other American cars didn't follow until 1937 or 1938, when Pierce-Arrow was fading away or gone.  Many European cars featured headlights integrated into fenders, before 1937.

It may be, that most car makers didn't see the need for the design, or thought the public wouldn't like it.  I haven't been able to find information about Pierce-Arrow licensing their headlight design to others, or enforcing it.