Author Topic: Solved -PJ161- Eyston ' s AEC Fuel Oil Safety Special 1933 (Read 3849 times)

Paul Jaray · « **on:** June 12, 2009, 10:58:52 AM »

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Paul Jaray · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2009, 04:04:15 PM »

Experts?

DynaMike · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2009, 04:27:42 PM »

I think I've seen this before... Is it French?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2009, 04:32:24 PM »

neilshouse · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:46:16 AM »

Is it George Eyston's Diesel powered racer?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:56:35 AM »

Yes it is...can you tell me its name?
Locked for you till your next reply.

neilshouse · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2009, 04:25:06 AM »

I think it had two names, the 'AEC Fuel Oil Safety Special' and 'Black Magic'.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2009, 04:28:30 AM »

Perfect!
One more point for you.
This car was not so obscure, but I think from this angle it was not so easy!

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2009, 06:29:56 PM »

I think I was wrong...this is indeed the 130hp engined car that runs with oil.
Quite the same...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2009, 06:31:15 PM »

but different...

neilshouse · « **Reply #10 on:** August 20, 2009, 11:19:51 AM »

I'm not 100% sure but I think they are the same car, the tail section is the main difference.

2 more pictures from the web.....

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #11 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:07:08 PM »

I had them too and they explain the differences, beside the tail section there are also the cycle-wing on the oil-powered version. I also think that it is basically the same car.

Allan L · « **Reply #12 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:41:56 PM »

Are you saying there was a version of this car which did not have the AEC diesel bus engine?
If so, as I have not heard of one can you say what engine it had and what purpose it served.
My understanding was that the class records for diesel-engined cars were not very high, so a 130 b.h.p. engine in a car like that could take them and at Brooklands, which by then was not the most suitable venue for "proper" record speeds

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #13 on:** August 20, 2009, 03:52:01 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on August 19, 2009, 06:29:56 PM

I think I was wrong...this is indeed the 130hp engined car that runs with oil.
Quite the same...

OK, reading this, I was not so clear...I think that this car was slightly modified during its carreer because in some pictures (or drawings) it has a longer back and cycle-wings. Not enough to make it a different car, but enough (for me) to point it out. The engine is the same as reported in both text: a 130hp fuel-oil engine.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #14 on:** August 20, 2009, 05:36:58 PM »

Here's another view:

neilshouse · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2009, 05:18:38 AM »

A fascinating car, I have been reading more about its history, built from a Chrysler Imperial chassis in 1932/33 by Delaney and Sons with a fabric body by Vanden Plas and an 8.9 litre diesel AEC bus engine.

It was tested at Pendine and the first record attempt was at Brooklands in October 1933 with George Eyston setting a flying kilometer record of 103 mph. The next year at Monthery the car had been modified with the longer tail, wire wheels, and cycle wings, taking another record for the flying kilometer and mile at 115mph. In 1936 the car and Eyston returned to Monthery setting a 24 hour record of 94mph.

The car was road legal and practical with 4 doors and 4 seats, and due to the torque of the diesel engine could be easily driven around town and returned 22mpg.

It seems no-one knows what happened to the car after that, there were reports that it was still about post WW2, maybe it is still sitting in a barn somewhere, who knows?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2009, 07:55:33 AM »

Great, thank you.

Allan L · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2009, 08:13:20 AM »

Quote from: neilshouse on August 21, 2009, 05:18:38 AM

A fascinating car, I have been reading more about its history, built from a Chrysler Imperial chassis in 1932/33 by Delaney and Sons with a fabric body by Vanden Plas and an 8.9 litre diesel AEC bus engine.

It was tested at Pendine and the first record attempt was at Brooklands in October 1933 with George Eyston setting a flying kilometer record of 103 mph. The next year at Monthery the car had been modified with the longer tail, wire wheels, and cycle wings, taking another record for the flying kilometer and mile at 115mph. In 1936 the car and Eyston returned to Monthery setting a 24 hour record of 94mph.

The car was road legal and practical with 4 doors and 4 seats, and due to the torque of the diesel engine could be easily driven around town and returned 22mpg.

It seems no-one knows what happened to the car after that, there were reports that it was still about post WW2, maybe it is still sitting in a barn somewhere, who knows?

Ah, yes, of course it was built by Delaney's as was GETE's "Speed of the Wind" long distance record car. I remember Tom Delaney showing me photos of that car under construction there.

Ray B. · « **Reply #18 on:** August 21, 2009, 08:21:10 AM »

Paul, I took the liberty of correcting your typing mistakes in the topic's title, hope you don't mind.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #19 on:** August 21, 2009, 12:35:37 PM »

Thank you Ray, sometimes I have limited time to check my typing and I follow the 'they'll get the meaning' rule.
(BTW what I wrote?)

Ray B. · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2009, 03:07:52 PM »

Eyeston and Specilal.
You still can see it above. I didn't went to the extent of correcting all posts.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #21 on:** August 21, 2009, 03:20:45 PM »

grobmotorix · « **Reply #22 on:** September 20, 2010, 05:12:22 PM »

I´ve just found a car so similar that I think it must be the Eyston.

The interesting fact is that at the Goldth website, they claim it to be their own development.

I´ll try to translate the german text correctly:

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Record trip of 1933. Here´s the record car of 1933. A DIESEL engine drove this projectile with a speed of 193km/h forward. The record was set up on the “house-track” between Cappeln and Eckernförde - there a 8 kilometers long nearly straight lane guarantees records. The picture shows the record car - by the way a self-built vehicle of the Goldth' workshop - behind the worker's houses of Flensburg-Rude, shortly before the record-attemt at the 27th of May 1933. A second record trip set on the way back could not be accomplished any more at this day because of the leakage of a fuel tank carried in a service truck (the second trip should by the way take place with vegetable oil!).

guido66 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 20, 2010, 05:15:30 PM »

I found the Goldth KG site too, and actually posted that very car as a puzzle. It's was quickly discovered to be a repost. I think if you study said website a bit further, you'll find that it's all fantasy

grobmotorix · « **Reply #24 on:** September 20, 2010, 05:22:39 PM »

That´s what I think, too.
It seems to be a pure fake story.

I´ve found the original picture with the following text:

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A very early photo of the A.E.C. diesel record breaker before it was seen by the press at Brooklands in 1933.

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