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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2011 => Topic started by: Carnut on March 17, 2011, 11:29:32 AM
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What's this, by whom, when - for 1 point?
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Experts?
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This is a design drawing for the proposed 1957 Studebaker Express Coupe...
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This is a design drawing for the proposed 1957 Studebaker Express Coupe...
Yes it is.
Just one part of the question still unanswered.
Locked for you to complete it and gain your point!
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Are you looking for the person who drew this specific sketch or for the head of the styling staff?
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Are you looking for the person who drew this specific sketch or for the head of the styling staff?
I scanned this picture from a book, and the caption reads:
"Studebaker planned to revive its Express Coupe car/pickup in the ambitious all new S-P line first envisioned for '57. ******** penned five possible accessories for it, including a pop-up pup tent" (as per my puzzle picture).
So I guess that would mean the actual stylist.
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This is an educated guess, but I'll say it's Duncan McRae, as he was Studebaker's main stylist for the '57 models...
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This is an educated guess, but I'll say it's Duncan McRae, as he was Studebaker's main stylist for the '57 models...
No, it wasn't him!
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Maybe Richard Teague???
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Maybe Richard Teague???
No, it wasn't him either..
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Was it Bob Bourke?
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Was it Bob Bourke?
..nor him
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Bob Doehler?
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Bob Doehler?
Not him either, no.
What I'm going to do, as this seems to be harder than I thought, is give you 1 point for identifying exactly what the vehicle is*, then there's another point on offer for whoever can identify the designer.
So it's open to all to go for that other point..
*Done!
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Bob Marcks?
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It is pretty tough...I can't seem to find the name anywhere...Bill Schmidt maybe?
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I may be going about this the wrong way...if this sketch was made a couple years before the '57s came out, Raymond Loewy's group could have still been the main styling team at Studebaker. If so, it's possible the sketch had his name on it, because he put his name on all the sketches! (from what I remember)
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No, it wasn't Bob Marcks, Bill Schmidt or Raymond Loewy!
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Since the picture is reversed, I wonder about the accuracy of the source.
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Bob Andrews?
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Bob Andrews?
Not him either!
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Well, thank you for the point Carnut, but I'm out of names...at this point, it could be anyone! :-\
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Well, thank you for the point Carnut, but I'm out of names...at this point, it could be anyone! :-\
Not quite; it wasn't me!
The designer had quite a long history of designing cars in the US and whilst maybe not a household name I would say was quite well known within the industry and amongst enthusiasts. He did have one or two notable cars to his name, and I think I've proved to Otto that my source is reliable and correct!
Some of his work was featured in an article in a very prominent US newspaper within the last year or two.
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Could it be Larry Shinoda? I believe he worked for SP for awhile in the 50s...
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Could it be Larry Shinoda? I believe he worked for SP for awhile in the 50s...
Sorry, it wasn't him either.
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Brooks Stevens ??
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Brooks Stevens ??
Nor him!
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Bob Koto?
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Bob Koto?
..or him, no!
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All right...I can't seem to give this up, so one more try and I'm out: Fred Hudson???
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All right...I can't seem to give this up, so one more try and I'm out: Fred Hudson???
No, I'm afraid it wasn't him either.
Don't give up - the answer is out there!
He specialised in aerodynamic shapes in his early career, which started in the 1930s.
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John Tjaarda?
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John Tjaarda?
I'm afraid not, no.
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Are you looking for the person who drew this specific sketch or for the head of the styling staff?
I scanned this picture from a book, and the caption reads:
"Studebaker planned to revive its Express Coupe car/pickup in the ambitious all new S-P line first envisioned for '57. ******** penned five possible accessories for it, including a pop-up pup tent" (as per my puzzle picture).
So I guess that would mean the actual stylist.
I found the quote in a book. The person mentioned was A. Roberts.
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Are you looking for the person who drew this specific sketch or for the head of the styling staff?
I scanned this picture from a book, and the caption reads:
"Studebaker planned to revive its Express Coupe car/pickup in the ambitious all new S-P line first envisioned for '57. ******** penned five possible accessories for it, including a pop-up pup tent" (as per my puzzle picture).
So I guess that would mean the actual stylist.
I found the quote in a book. The person mentioned was A. Roberts.
I'm afraid that must be a different book - that's not the name in mine!
The name mentioned in mine is quite a respected and known designer.
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Vince Gardner?
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Vince Gardner?
Not him, no..
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Was the designer more of a freelance, industrial designer than a Studebaker staffer?
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Was the designer more of a freelance, industrial designer than a Studebaker staffer?
I believe he was, yes.
It wasn't Loewy though..
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Norman Bel Geddes?
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Norman Bel Geddes?
Not him, no.
There was an article about the designer in a very well-known New York newspaper about 18 months ago, which was mainly about his work on smaller and more aerodynamic saloons in the mid 1930s.
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Can the Pro's get to the bottom of this?
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Alex Tremulis?
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Alex Tremulis?
Not him..
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Bob Burr
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Bob Burr
..nor him!
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Richard Teague?
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Can the Pro's get to the bottom of this?
Your honor, I recuse myself. ;)
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Can the Pro's get to the bottom of this?
Your honor, I recuse myself. ;)
Very honourable - even if I do need to get my dictionary out to find out what 'recuse' means!!
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Richard Teague?
Not Dick Teague, no.
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The same picture, not reversed (yours seem to be), and better reproduced. But nothing about who did the drawing.
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That's the same drawing I found in a book that mentioned A. Roberts. But, carnut said it didn't match the person mentioned in his book. ???
See Reply #33
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That's the same drawing all right, although I didn't reverse it; I reproduced it exactly as it appears in my book.
I just re-read it and it still says the same as I posted in Reply #5!
So the name of the guy who penned the 5 possible accessories has not yet been mentioned. It doesn't actually say that he did the design of the base vehicle though; in fact it doesn't mention any other name in connection with this design at all.
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So the name of the guy who penned the 5 possible accessories has not yet been mentioned.
..although coincidentally his name has appeared on AP recently as an incorrect guess on another puzzle!
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Ted Pietsch?
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Ted Pietsch?
That's the guy (Ted being short for Theodore).
I thought my clue would bring about a result - this puzzle has languished for long enough.
I was really surprised when Tackitt brought up his name only yesterday as a suggestion for the Assymetric in another of my puzzles (since solved - it was by Dave Cummins) without spotting the possibility it might be Pietsch's work on this one!
Well done!
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If you're interested in Ted Pietsch and his career as an automobile stylist, click on this link:
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Please note also that an exhibit of his work, featuring some 60 finished renderings, dating from the 1920s to the 70s, will open at the Studebaker National Museum in South Bend, Indiana, on July 15, 2011, and will run for 6 months.
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Thanks for that twp.
You wouldn't be Theodore W. Pietsch III would you by any chance?!
Welcome to AutoPuzzzles, where we particularly appreciate work like that of your father!
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Where in Washington State did TWP II finally end up?
If anybody's intereted in learning about TWP III, check this out:
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