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Title: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Carnut on February 19, 2011, 08:45:22 AM
What is this for 1 point?
Title: JPG #93
Post by: João on March 08, 2011, 12:50:00 AM
I don't know this beautiful one,so please feel free to help! I have year and the base.
Title: Re: JPG #93
Post by: whcgt on March 08, 2011, 03:19:18 AM
This puzzle is a currently running puzzle in the rookie section. This is puzzle NEH 961 from carnut. ;)
Title: Re: JPG #93
Post by: Carnut on March 08, 2011, 04:27:53 AM
Well-spotted whcgt!:

www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=15632.0

Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 08, 2011, 05:19:49 AM
Merged
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: Carnut on March 18, 2011, 10:39:41 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: barrett on March 18, 2011, 01:05:03 PM
VW base, built in Germany?
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: Carnut on March 18, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
VW base, built in Germany?

Yes, and yes - I believe so
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: whcgt on March 19, 2011, 11:55:01 AM
I do not know the make or name of this gorgeous gt. Here are a couple of photos, that I have found of this car.
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: Carnut on March 19, 2011, 02:19:50 PM
I do have a name it is known by so see what you can find...
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: Carnut on April 01, 2011, 05:56:58 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: João on April 01, 2011, 11:34:39 AM
1957-63 Volkswagen based called Red Presto  :)
Title: Re: NEH 961
Post by: Carnut on April 01, 2011, 12:03:52 PM
1957-63 Volkswagen based called Red Presto  :)

That's what I was after!
Well done.

A rear view (personally I think it needs slightly wider rear wheels..):

Title: Re: Solved - NEH 961: Presto VW-based home-built Special
Post by: Allemano on April 01, 2011, 12:11:26 PM
A bigger pic of the period shot:

Title: Re: Solved - NEH 961: Presto VW-based home-built Special
Post by: Carnut on April 01, 2011, 12:11:43 PM
And here's a bigger version of the pic whcgt posted:
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 961: Presto VW-based home-built Special
Post by: Carnut on April 01, 2011, 12:12:38 PM
Great minds think alike, eh?!

All right then, here's an unmodified version of the original puzzle photo:

Title: Re: Solved - NEH 961: Presto VW-based home-built Special
Post by: Allemano on April 01, 2011, 12:14:32 PM
;)

I think it'll be a really nice looking car when properly restored.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 961: Presto VW-based home-built Special - 1965
Post by: Carnut on October 08, 2012, 10:55:30 AM
No pictures of the restored car yet but here are some of it in the 1960s and as it is at the momenht:

Title: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: pnegyesi on March 25, 2018, 12:09:16 PM
Who built this car, when and what was the name he gave? A point is waiting for you!
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 01, 2018, 05:36:45 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: dzima1985 on April 02, 2018, 02:17:48 PM
"Red Presto" VW Spezial, 1962
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Carnut on April 02, 2018, 05:50:04 PM
This car in fact:

https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-neh-961-presto-vw-based-home-built-special-1965/msg153296/#msg153296
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 02, 2018, 09:32:01 PM
Well, well. This car may be a repost, but I have the name of the builder and he gave another name to this car. So I don't want to merge it. Because it was known as something else.
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Carnut on April 03, 2018, 04:11:03 AM
Was it originally called the TRP Special?
It seems to have been built by a student, but I haven't found his name yet.
Were TRP his initials?
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 03, 2018, 04:22:58 AM
no, his initials were HV
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Carnut on April 03, 2018, 07:28:38 AM
no, his initials were HV

Thanks.
But was the car originally called the TRP?
Or maybe that just stood for 'The Red Presto'...
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 03, 2018, 07:39:34 AM
no the car was called something entirely different
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 09, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
Professionals?
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Wendax on April 09, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
The builder's name was Helmut Vetter.
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 09, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
Almost. Locked for you to give me its first name and the name he gave to the car
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 12, 2018, 06:03:03 AM
Wendax, any thoughts on this one?
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Wendax on April 12, 2018, 06:19:34 AM
All I could find is this bad photograph of a newspaper article. Still trying to decipher it.
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 12, 2018, 07:48:54 PM
I am going to help you a lot. The man is from Regensburg. Now if you know where to look and how to look you can find his name and the name of the car online.

Still locked
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Carnut on April 13, 2018, 03:30:58 AM
I guessed that from the registration plate and have Googled endlessly using Regensburg as a key word, along with Eigenbau, Special, home-built and VW.  Plus other relevant words!
But nothing shows up (in the UK; maybe it does in other countries).
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 13, 2018, 04:14:37 AM
" if you know where to look and how to look "

:)
:)

Google won't help you in this case. And it's not on Facebook either.
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 17, 2018, 04:51:06 AM
should I unlock?
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2018, 05:12:01 AM
Yes, I searched some newspaper archive online, but couldn't find anything. You may unlock.
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 17, 2018, 06:11:03 AM
unlocked then
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 17, 2018, 06:38:49 AM
The name of the builder is Harald Vetter.
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 17, 2018, 07:21:49 AM
...and the car was named "Fire Arrow".
Title: Re: PN #1103
Post by: pnegyesi on April 17, 2018, 07:40:59 AM
indeed
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Wendax on April 17, 2018, 09:03:29 AM
Merged
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 17, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
Thank you. I've been in contact with the current owner of the car for years. He will restore it sooner or later. This is what he told me last year. The car deserves it.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Carnut on April 18, 2018, 04:00:32 AM
I tried contacting the guy who has the website dedicated to The Red Presto, but he failed to reply.
I note the last entries on the site are from 2012, so maybe he no longer has the car and has abandoned the website.
On that site it states that the car was built by a student in 1962, based on a 1957 Beetle..
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 18, 2018, 04:11:36 AM
That's him. He still has the car. His name is Oli and He is from Mainz.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Carnut on March 07, 2019, 06:34:19 AM
I heard from the guy who is restoring the car (Oli) but he says it's not finished yet; he's been quite ill for some time but he hopes to have it finished this year.
He says the student who built it did it as part of his studies at university.
It's name then was "Red Artow" (I assume he didn't mean "Red Arrow").
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Groundspeed on February 17, 2022, 07:07:49 AM
Hello everyone, my name is Oli and I am the owner of the Fire Arrow or The Red Presto. A friend showed me this page and that this is about the car. I am still working on the restoration, which has not yet been completed due to a long illness and private reasons.The TRP was built by 2 friends Armin Hell and Helmut Vetter. Armin was the engineer and Helmut the doer. The car was registered in Germany in 1962 and de-registered in 1974.

Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, cca 1964
Post by: Groundspeed on February 17, 2022, 07:11:15 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oHyo6Ml5gl4/UD5Q2pXuGeI/AAAAAAAAK94/AixAHjaFQyo/s1600/01042011+100.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-trW4en9k0hY/UD5Q35tildI/AAAAAAAAK-A/HokIjqs5drI/s1600/01042011+101.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7Fg_8fQeVvs/UD5Rskauu5I/AAAAAAAAK-g/l-sqqp5nuMQ/s1600/regensburg+010910+024.jpg)
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Wendax on February 17, 2022, 08:28:34 AM
Hello Oli, nice to hear that the car is still cared for. I'll put the correct year in the headline.
Good luck for getting the Firearrow back on the road again!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Wendax on February 17, 2022, 12:00:45 PM
A letter to the editor by the builder himself:
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Groundspeed on February 17, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
This is the letter to the editor from 1963 from the magazine "Auto Motor und Sport"
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Wendax on February 17, 2022, 03:57:03 PM
Auto Motor und Sport 26/1965
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Groundspeed on February 18, 2022, 01:30:45 AM
yes you are right 1965, too fat fingers to write on the phone ;-)
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Groundspeed on February 18, 2022, 01:33:46 AM
Armin Vetter unfortunately passed away last year, but I am in contact with his wife and daughter. There was a second car that was built, I have a picture of it. Both stand next to each other.

Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Groundspeed on February 18, 2022, 01:40:00 AM
here are some pictures from before
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Wendax on February 18, 2022, 02:00:48 AM
Thank you very much for the extra pictures. I like it a lot in yellow.  :)
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Groundspeed on February 18, 2022, 02:03:06 AM
Wendax, where are you from in Germany? Have we already written about facebook?

Title: Re: Solved: PN #1103 -- Harald Vetter Firearrow GTO, 1962
Post by: Wendax on February 18, 2022, 04:10:06 AM
PM sent