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Title: Solved - NEH 828: DLM 1 hybrid special by Derek Lawrence Masters - 1959
Post by: Carnut on November 12, 2010, 10:49:56 AM
Full description of what this is called, who built it, what it's based on, what powers it and when it was built will earn a Puzzler 1 point:
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on November 26, 2010, 10:19:10 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: gilescooperuk on November 26, 2010, 05:52:03 PM
Ford 100E base. I was going to say Austin 7 but the wheelbase looks too long for that.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on November 26, 2010, 06:03:22 PM
Ford 100E base. I was going to say Austin 7 but the wheelbase looks too long for that.

It doesn't sit on a Ford chassis but it is powered by the ubiquitous Ford E93A engine!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on November 27, 2010, 03:14:00 AM
I still think this may be an Austin Seven special with a 1172cc Ford engine.
It is similar to many Lotus 6-inspired club racers of the 1950s.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on November 27, 2010, 04:32:13 AM
I still think this may be an Austin Seven special with a 1172cc Ford engine.
It is similar to many Lotus 6-inspired club racers of the 1950s.

It does have the Ford sidevalve engine, yes, as I said before - but no Austin parts as far as I know!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on December 10, 2010, 06:00:34 PM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on December 18, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
Anything to do with an early Turner?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on December 18, 2010, 07:15:10 PM
Anything to do with an early Turner?

Nothing, no!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on December 30, 2010, 02:43:08 AM
Terrier-Ford?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on December 30, 2010, 06:45:57 AM
Terrier-Ford?

'Fraid not!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: D-type on December 30, 2010, 10:16:16 AM
Cannon-Ford
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on December 30, 2010, 12:42:57 PM
Cannon-Ford

I'm away from home and whilst I have some of my files with me this is rather an old puzzle and I don't have that one!
Will only be able to answer when I get home, but I'm pretty sure the answer is 'No'.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 01, 2011, 01:50:55 PM
Cannon-Ford

Nothing to do with Cannon, no.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 02, 2011, 03:17:19 PM
Perhaps a Ginetta G2?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 02, 2011, 06:30:40 PM
Perhaps a Ginetta G2?

Sorry, nothing to do with Ginetta either.
It's very much a one-off.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 03, 2011, 02:10:28 AM
My last thought for the moment - Brierley Special?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 03, 2011, 06:01:32 PM
My last thought for the moment - Brierley Special?

I'm afraid that's not it, no.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2011, 04:20:55 AM
Bennett Special of 1960?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 05, 2011, 06:04:37 AM
Bennett Special of 1960?

No, but the date is close!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2011, 08:41:56 AM
Presumably it was a car built for Formula 1172?
The date - 1959?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 05, 2011, 10:34:09 AM
Presumably it was a car built for Formula 1172?
The date - 1959?

Possibly; not sure what he used it for.
1959 is correct, yes!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 05, 2011, 11:53:55 AM
Hildette (aka Beauten) built by Brian Barnett 1959?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 06, 2011, 05:12:01 AM
Hildette (aka Beauten) built by Brian Barnett 1959?

Not that, no.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Allan L on January 08, 2011, 03:49:33 AM
Buckler made cars of all sorts of shapes - could be one of his, but probably not.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 08, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
Buckler made cars of all sorts of shapes - could be one of his, but probably not.

I'm afraid it's nothing at all to do with Buckler, no.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 13, 2011, 01:39:04 PM
Built by Peter Raphael?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 14, 2011, 03:41:58 AM
Built by Peter Raphael?

I'm afraid not, no.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 14, 2011, 03:51:39 AM
I have around 20 possible solutions for this car according to my database.
Without wishing to through them one-by-one I'll try to establish a few more facts before I make another guess as to the make.
I think it has been establish as British and Ford-engined.
Is it a one-off?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 14, 2011, 04:47:21 AM
It is a one-off, yes.
Its engine has been established but not what chassis it sits one.
It is certainly British.
I can't find any mention of the car on the Internet, which does make it more difficult!
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: woodinsight on January 15, 2011, 11:13:32 AM
Another try - Scorpion by R.A. Levett?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on January 16, 2011, 06:47:18 PM
Another try - Scorpion by R.A. Levett?

No, that's still not it I'm afraid.
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: barrett on February 20, 2011, 10:42:28 AM
This looks like the DLM Special, built by Derek Lawrence Masters on an Austin Seven chassis and with a sidevalve Ford engine. Registered 1 UHX.

....But you said there was no Austin parts in the puzzle car??  ???
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on February 20, 2011, 12:13:02 PM
This looks like the DLM Special, built by Derek Lawrence Masters on an Austin Seven chassis and with a sidevalve Ford engine. Registered 1 UHX.

....But you said there was no Austin parts in the puzzle car??  ???

It is indeed a Derek Lawrence Masters creation, yes!
But it has a (sort of) name?
According to my information it's not based on an Austin Seven chassis - as far as I know there are indeed no Austin parts in the car.  The engine is correct though.
So I'll lock it for you until your next reply to come up with the base I have (assuming I am correct of course - if you can prove I'm not then I would accept your answer!)
Also I need the date?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: barrett on February 20, 2011, 01:26:44 PM
This is the sum total of info I have on the car. I believe MJW guessed the correct year on page 1?
Title: Re: NEH 828
Post by: Carnut on February 20, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
Well you do seem to have found the right car barrett - well done!
Its name is even there as the caption to the photo you posted - the DLM 1!
I don't know for sure what chassis it's on, but my info said it was Standard 9.  I see there is a mention of Standard relating to the front axle, so maybe someone got the wrong end of the stick somewhere, but who I have no idea.
I don't think we'll get any further with this one so 1 point is yours and consider it solved!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 828: DLM 1 hybrid special by Derek Lawrence Masters - 1959
Post by: roger on May 31, 2011, 05:10:14 PM
Well I never

I never knew that my toy had so much interest.

The car is registered as a DLM 1, and yes those are the initials of the maker.
Derek Lawrence Masters.
And that is all I have ever known about Mr Masters

I bought the car in 1970.

To save time and space I am posting a link to a website with my write up of the car.
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/forum/phpbb/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7815

Tech. details
Chassis, modified, 1935 Standard 9
Front axle, hubs and drums are also S9
Front brakes Ford 105e Anglia (1957)
Engine and gearbox Ford E93a
Rear axle was changed from a Morris(1930's) to a Ford 100e
Aluminum body.
Everything else, Wheels, fuel tank, Radiator, drive shaft, suspension all one off

This is a typical 1950's one off special

As it is now
Taken last year

(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n101/Hatchy-62/DSCF0100-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 828: DLM 1 hybrid special by Derek Lawrence Masters - 1959
Post by: Carnut on May 31, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
Ah so there we have the truth!
It's NOT on an Austin 7 chassis!
Thanks for that interesting info.