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Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
« on: October 31, 2011, 08:30:56 AM »
This car has been puzzled before, but I've found this new picture in which it looks surprisingly different, so perhaps it can be run again.

What is it and in what is it participating in the picture?

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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 06:48:55 PM »
Touring body?
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 06:54:59 PM »
Quote from: fgsavoia on November 04, 2011, 06:48:55 PM
Touring body?

Looks like it could be, doesn't it?   But it's not..
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2011, 05:00:21 AM »
Let's see if the Experts remember it?
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2011, 05:29:23 AM »
Morgan +4 ,1953 by Adams & Robinson ?
« Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 05:32:18 AM by SACO »
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2011, 06:40:35 AM »
Quote from: SACO on November 08, 2011, 05:29:23 AM
Morgan +4 ,1953 by Adams & Robinson ?

You've got the right car, but 1953 is not quite right.
I've also seen it described as bodied by Adams & Robinson on websites, asserting that it's a twin of an A&R Jowett Jupiter, but I don't see much resemblance myself.  All I know is that is was bodied as a copy of a Ferrari Berlinetta by its owner, but who actually built the body is not certain.  It might have been A&R but it might not..

So it's locked for you to answer the remaining part of the question for the point?
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2011, 06:57:46 AM »
Jowett Jupiter and Morgan together ;very similar :o
1952 for the Morgan .
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 08:59:47 AM »
Quote from: SACO on November 08, 2011, 06:57:46 AM
Jowett Jupiter and Morgan together ;very similar :o
1952 for the Morgan .

They are indeed twins!
I think someone must have posted a picture of the wrong Jupiter on the website where I was looking..!
Now, for that point: what is the puzzle car participating in?
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 09:04:20 AM »
2nd on the 1953 Daily Express Rally  :)
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2011, 09:16:36 AM »
Quote from: SACO on November 08, 2011, 09:04:20 AM
2nd on the 1953 Daily Express Rally  :)

Quite so!
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Re: NEH 1328
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2011, 11:24:14 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on November 08, 2011, 06:40:35 AM
Quote from: SACO on November 08, 2011, 05:29:23 AM
Morgan +4 ,1953 by Adams & Robinson ?

You've got the right car, but 1953 is not quite right.
I've also seen it described as bodied by Adams & Robinson on websites, asserting that it's a twin of an A&R Jowett Jupiter, but I don't see much resemblance myself.  All I know is that is was bodied as a copy of a Ferrari Berlinetta by its owner, but who actually built the body is not certain.  It might have been A&R but it might not..

So it's locked for you to answer the remaining part of the question for the point?

This was definitely built by Adams & Robinson! It was built for Roy Clarkson for use on the 1953 Monte Carlo rally, work begun in August 1952 but it was only just completed in time for the start of the race, so 1953 would actually be the correct year of build. Both this and the Jowett were being built at the same time, although the Jupiter wasn't finished until 1957, after Charlie Robinson had wound up A&R and become body man for John Willment, hence why that car is sometimes known as the 'Willment-Robinson Jowett'. Apparently, despite being a hugely talented panel beater, Charlie Robinson refused to hunker down and get on with building these cars and a lot of the work on the Morgan was actually done by Maurice Gomm, with whom Robinson shared a workshop! 
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Re: Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2011, 07:21:24 AM »
Yes - I was wrong!
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Re: Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 04:42:42 PM »
Should probably be merged with this one now:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=3033.0
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Re: Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2011, 04:45:01 AM »
Quote from: barrett on November 10, 2011, 04:42:42 PM
Should probably be merged with this one now:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=3033.0

Yes, it is the same car all right (as I knew from the start) but with a much nicer grille than that horrible Ford Consul thing..

My heading has just a bit more info though to help find it..
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Re: Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2011, 03:57:41 AM »
Some period shots -
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Re: Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 03:21:38 AM »
Thanks!!

Those are all new to me
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Re: Solved - NEH 1328: 1952 Adams & Robinson-bodied Morgan +4 on '53 Daily Express Rally
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