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Solved - NEH 1396: Italian Home-built special purporting to be a Pininfarina Lancia Aurelia B50
« on: December 02, 2011, 09:48:08 AM »
Another nice red car; what is it, by whom and from when - for 1 point?

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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2011, 05:43:45 AM »
Experts?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 06:01:39 AM »
Ferrari?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 06:07:53 AM »
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 05:23:56 PM »
It looks rather like a Ferrari, so is it a Ford Ten based Special with a proprietary body?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 06:46:18 PM »
Quote from: D-type on December 12, 2011, 05:23:56 PM
It looks rather like a Ferrari, so is it a Ford Ten based Special with a proprietary body?

I'm afraid not, no.
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2011, 02:18:32 AM »
I see a European Renault Laguna in the back ; is it French?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2011, 02:20:31 AM »
Are we talkin' Italian body on an English chassis?  Possibly Triumph?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 04:52:56 AM »
Quote from: Delorean on December 13, 2011, 02:18:32 AM
I see a European Renault Laguna in the back ; is it French?

Not French

Quote from: Tackitt on December 13, 2011, 02:20:31 AM
Are we talkin' Italian body on an English chassis?  Possibly Triumph?

Nor English - but the bodywork is Italian..
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 09:41:10 AM »
The roofline reminds me of an old Alfa Romeo Giuletta / Giulia, but the nose says 'Ferrari' all over it ....

Is it maybe some sort of home-made car by somebody?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 11:24:22 AM »
Quote from: Delorean on December 13, 2011, 09:41:10 AM
The roofline reminds me of an old Alfa Romeo Giuletta / Giulia, but the nose says 'Ferrari' all over it .... Is it maybe some sort of home-made car by somebody?


No, it's not a home-build but I suspect it's been a bit tinkered with since it was built..
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 02:20:31 PM »
OSCA??
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 02:27:43 PM »
Quote from: Iluvatar on December 13, 2011, 02:20:31 PM
OSCA??
MPC

No, no Osca connection at all.

Quote from: Carnut on December 13, 2011, 11:24:22 AM
Quote from: Delorean on December 13, 2011, 09:41:10 AM
The roofline reminds me of an old Alfa Romeo Giuletta / Giulia, but the nose says 'Ferrari' all over it .... Is it maybe some sort of home-made car by somebody?


No, it's not a home-build but I suspect it's been a bit tinkered with since it was built..

I was just re-reading all the info from my source and I've changed my mind about my above reply!

Although it actually purports to be something else it is really a home-built bitsa...
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 02:33:01 PM »
Quote from: Carnut on December 13, 2011, 04:52:56 AM
Nor English - but the bodywork is Italian..

But not what it purports to be...
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2011, 06:17:48 AM »
Any Pro's know?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 06:19:10 AM »
AFAIK this car is a self built.

Karmann Ghia,BMW bits and not by Pinin ....
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2011, 07:01:25 AM »
Lancia Aurelia B50 prototype 1951 Pininfarina ?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2011, 10:41:47 AM »
Quote from: Joćo on December 29, 2011, 06:19:10 AM
AFAIK this car is a self built.

Karmann Ghia,BMW bits and not by Pinin ....

It is, yes, and it does have all sorts of bits in it, although you haven't actually mentioned what it's mainly made of..

Quote from: SACO on December 29, 2011, 07:01:25 AM
Lancia Aurelia B50 prototype 1951 Pininfarina ?

It apparently has Lancia Aurelia B50 mechanicals, yes, but it definitely isn't by Pininfarina (despite it wearing PF badges on its flanks)!


Have another search and see what you can both come up with!
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2011, 11:39:07 AM »
by Frua ?
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2011, 11:57:40 AM »
According to that source,the wheelbase seems too short for a B50.

And I think it's a Facel Simca transformed.

Maybe SACO can tell us more.
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 12:05:29 PM »
It's a 1951 Simca 9 Facel Coupe from the front wings back, yes!
It also, as you say, has Karmann-Ghia bits and has BMW steering and a Ferrari 250MM grille...
Can't trace that is has any Lancia bits either, even though it wears Lancia badges and purports to be a Pininfarina Lancia Aurelia B50 prototype as SACO said...

First one to tell me what powers it gets the point!
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 12:10:26 PM »
A Fiat 130 engine.
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Re: NEH 1396
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 12:12:25 PM »
Quote from: Joćo on December 29, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
A Fiat 130 engine.

And it's a well-earned point for you!
I'm surprised Pininfarina haven't asked for their badges back...!
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Re: Solved - NEH 1396: Italian Home-built special purporting to be a Pininfarina Lancia Aurelia B50
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 12:21:05 PM »
Thank you Carnut.  :)

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