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Solved - MJW #477 - Jowett Jupiter Karossen Sickla
« on: June 10, 2011, 07:45:35 PM »
Looks familiar?
Yes it does to a degree.
What is the make, model and who built the coachwork?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 12:15:34 PM »
Jowett type  Le Mans 1951 ?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 11:07:35 AM »
Jowett type  Le Mans 1951 ?
Well it is a Jowett but it is not one of the works' cars.
It is a 'one-off' and has a body built by a specific coachbuilder.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 04:13:44 PM »
I wonder if an expert knows this one?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 01:02:20 PM »
It looks very similar to the New Zealand-built R1 'replica' but that car is based on a shortened Javelin platform which doesn't tally with what you mentioned about this car to me earlier....

Edit: Looking at the picture again it's clear these are totally different cars, the builder of the NZ one seems to have seen the puzzle car at some point and taken a few ideas from it. I'm still stumped as to which one this is!

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 01:15:02 PM »
It looks very similar to the New Zealand-built R1 'replica' but that car is based on a shortened Javelin platform which doesn't tally with what you mentioned about this car to me earlier....

Edit: Looking at the picture again it's clear these are totally different cars, the builder of the NZ one seems to have seen the puzzle car at some point and taken a few ideas from it. I'm still stumped as to which one this is!
I wasn't aware of the New Zealand built car.
I understand the puzzle car was a very early Jupiter, one of a batch built by ERA.
The location of the car is a long way from New Zealand when the photo was taken, however I don't know if it's still in that country.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2011, 06:44:55 AM »
Moving up to the Pros for a solution.....

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 10:08:47 AM »
Body built by Hasse Nyström from Sweden in order to compete at ice racing events.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 10:52:59 AM »
Hasse Nystrom is not the name I have. The car was built by a Swedish coachbuilder for a Mr. E.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 11:38:45 AM »
After the translation of the Swedish text, I understand that Hasse Nyström owned the car in the 1970s. It is supposed to be a 1953 Jowett Jupiter underneath.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 10:56:48 PM »
Quote from: Wendax link=C topic=17140.msg169603#msg169603 date=1310053125
After the translation of the Swedish text, I understand that Hasse Nyström owned the car in the 1970s. It is supposed to be a 1953 Jowett Jupiter underneath.
Thanks for that and I confirm that the car is a Jowett Jupiter (a very early one).
All I need now is the name of the coachbuilder in Sweden.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2011, 03:10:13 AM »
Reviewing Nyström's story and pictures, it appears he was an accomplished builder/mechanic/craftsman. Maybe he did the mods himself?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2011, 03:29:32 PM »
Thanks for that Otto but as I understand it the original owner of the car commissioned a specific coachbuilder to undertake the bodywork.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2011, 03:35:26 PM »
Heinels?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 01:00:29 PM »
Not Heinels....

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2011, 10:35:53 AM »
Nordberg?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2011, 10:37:15 AM »

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2011, 10:59:24 AM »
Grip?

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2011, 12:05:01 AM »
Grip?
Not Grip.
Name of the coachbuilder starts with the letter 'S'

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2011, 02:00:47 PM »
Another hint -
Name of the coachbuilder begins with 'S', ends with 'a' and is five letters long.

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2011, 03:10:36 PM »
Stora?
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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2011, 06:37:54 PM »

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2011, 04:19:53 AM »
Serra?
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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2011, 07:44:31 AM »
Not Serra.....

Another hint - S..K.A

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Re: MJW #477
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2011, 01:08:47 PM »
Another hint - S..K.A

Setka?
Do the dots represent letters, which would make it 6 letters long...?
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