Author Topic: Solved - MJW #454 - Delage II 1922 with a 1933 Jensen body (Read 1732 times)

woodinsight · « **on:** May 30, 2011, 03:16:34 PM »

Make and year of the base car plus who the coachbuilder was (and year)

woodinsight · « **Reply #1 on:** June 03, 2011, 02:12:17 AM »

Expertise required

woodinsight · « **Reply #2 on:** June 12, 2011, 10:30:11 AM »

Professional help now required

João · « **Reply #3 on:** June 13, 2011, 11:32:01 AM »

Circa 1931 Wolseley Hornet by Martin Walter?

woodinsight · « **Reply #4 on:** June 13, 2011, 05:02:21 PM »

Quote from: João on June 13, 2011, 11:32:01 AM

Circa 1931 Wolseley Hornet by Martin Walter?

Not that.....

João · « **Reply #5 on:** June 13, 2011, 05:47:51 PM »

Circa 1934 Lagonda Rapier Saloon by Maltby?

woodinsight · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2011, 05:51:20 PM »

Quote from: João on June 13, 2011, 05:47:51 PM

Circa 1934 Lagonda Rapier Saloon by Maltby?

Not that either I'm afraid.
The chassis is much older than the coachwork. (1934 is close for the body)

woodinsight · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2011, 11:59:05 AM »

An extra clue - the chassis is not British

João · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2011, 02:10:18 PM »

Quote from: woodinsight on June 20, 2011, 11:59:05 AM

An extra clue - the chassis is not British

Fiat?

woodinsight · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2011, 03:15:17 PM »

Not Fiat (and not Italian)

João · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2011, 04:21:48 PM »

An Amilcar?

woodinsight · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2011, 03:38:06 AM »

Not Amilcar but the chassis is French

João · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:14:17 PM »

So it's a British Salmson?

woodinsight · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2011, 01:24:32 PM »

Quote from: João on July 26, 2011, 01:14:17 PM

So it's a British Salmson?

No - chassis is French, coachwork is British.
A hint - chassis dates from 1922 and the body from 1933

Allan L · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2011, 05:56:38 PM »

Hard to think of a 1922 French car of modest size with six cylinders that would be worth rebodying 11 years later. Oméga and Rolland Pillain would be possible but this looks smaller than they would be.

woodinsight · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2011, 04:09:56 AM »

Quote from: Allan L on July 26, 2011, 05:56:38 PM

Hard to think of a 1922 French car of modest size with six cylinders that would be worth rebodying 11 years later. Oméga and Rolland Pillain would be possible but this looks smaller than they would be.

It is actually a well-known high-quality French chassis with a lesser-known British body.

João · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2011, 07:04:09 PM »

It's a Delage?

woodinsight · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2011, 11:45:09 PM »

Quote from: João on July 28, 2011, 07:04:09 PM

It's a Delage?

Yes it is!
Now all that is needed is the coachbuilder...

João · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2011, 12:00:27 AM »

Harrington?

woodinsight · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2011, 12:21:38 AM »

Not Harrington.
The letter this coachbuilder begins with is quite close to 'H'

João · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2011, 12:22:35 AM »

Jensen?

woodinsight · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2011, 01:39:49 AM »

Quote from: João on July 29, 2011, 12:22:35 AM

Jensen?

Bingo!
It is a Delage II of 1922 fitted with a Jensen body from 1933.

Allan L · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2011, 03:24:59 AM »

Interesting description, "a Delage II" .
I normally think of Delage II as "La Torpille", being the second of two Delage hillclimb cars of 1922/3 and rebuilt and campaigned by Nigel Arnold-Forster in the 1960s. It looked like the photo below, which seems a bigger car than the puzzle.

woodinsight · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2011, 04:14:26 AM »

Quote from: Allan L on July 29, 2011, 03:24:59 AM

Interesting description, "a Delage II" .
I normally think of Delage II as "La Torpille", being the second of two Delage hillclimb cars of 1922/3 and rebuilt and campaigned by Nigel Arnold-Forster in the 1960s. It looked like the photo below, which seems a bigger car than the puzzle.

I took the description Delage II from the caption in my (normally reliable) source. I haven't found any further information on this car yet.

grobmotorix · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2016, 02:13:03 PM »

"Delage II. ...Neil Gardiner of great Auclum fame, bought the car and had the two-seater pointed tail body put on for road use and the car was registered MV 2734. He didn´t race it at Brooklands in 1931 but drove the car three times there in 1932 getting two seconds in the Inter-Club meeting and a fastest lap at 116.09 mph which was certainly very good for a 10-year-old car. After 1932 the car disappeared from Brooklands but was used at smaller events including Shelshley Walsh at 48.2sec. Gardiner then had the Jensen brothers build a neat saloon body; the car also featured massive front mounted oil coolers and carried its dry sump reservoir between the dumb-irons under the touring Delage radiator. It must have been a very fast road cart in its day. It stayed in its form until 1936 when John Lawson bought the car: he removed the handsome body, apart from the bonnet, replacing it with a cut-and-shut two seater version...

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Author Topic: Solved - MJW #454 - Delage II 1922 with a 1933 Jensen body (Read 1732 times)