Author Topic: SOLVED: Djetset #24 - Triumph TR7 fixed light rally car proposal by BL Works Team (Read 4462 times)

pnegyesi · « **Reply #100 on:** November 18, 2010, 11:29:07 AM »

was it because of BTCC regulations?

Djetset · « **Reply #101 on:** November 18, 2010, 11:29:45 AM »

No, it's a rallying thing (hint hint)

pnegyesi · « **Reply #102 on:** November 18, 2010, 11:36:57 AM »

So to sum it up: a Triumph TR7 with a modified front end to comply with rally regulations. Were there any other body bits improved?

Djetset · « **Reply #103 on:** November 19, 2010, 10:32:39 AM »

The front of this TR7 was modified for rallying purposes, but not to comply with any rallying regulations. What you see were the only body parts that were changed.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #104 on:** November 19, 2010, 11:08:45 AM »

Was this TR7 used as a test mule for another BL division's rally efforts?

Djetset · « **Reply #105 on:** November 19, 2010, 11:26:58 AM »

Sorry, but no it wasn't.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #106 on:** November 19, 2010, 11:36:30 AM »

A crashed rally car rebuilt in a more straightforward way?

Djetset · « **Reply #107 on:** November 19, 2010, 11:39:12 AM »

No, but keep on trying Pal, and I am sure you will get there in the end.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #108 on:** November 19, 2010, 11:44:10 AM »

I am not so sure. Maybe this one was destined to be used at a 24-hour rally?

Djetset · « **Reply #109 on:** November 19, 2010, 12:46:53 PM »

Not designed specifically for a 24hour event, although the lighting was key

Allemano · « **Reply #110 on:** November 19, 2010, 12:56:26 PM »

Quote from: Allemano on November 18, 2010, 11:26:54 AM

Is it simply about the improved lights?

And I add: for night rallyes?

Djetset · « **Reply #111 on:** November 19, 2010, 01:11:45 PM »

Oh sorry Allemano, I totally missed your 'improved lights' question yesterday. You are the closest so for, so locked to you for a fuller explaination...

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #112 on:** November 19, 2010, 01:22:19 PM »

So, the lighting on Rally cars are not mandated for safety reasons?

Quote from: Djetset on March 13, 2009, 04:20:25 AM

.... and also nothing with safety regulations either I'm afraid.

Allemano · « **Reply #113 on:** November 19, 2010, 01:27:16 PM »

I do not have a proper explanation, I'm afraid, but let's try this:
as the original TR7 was equipped with pop-up lights which in opened modus worsen the drag coefficient I presume they made this conversion to avoid this drawback. (for stages at night for instance)

Djetset · « **Reply #114 on:** November 19, 2010, 01:33:46 PM »

Ohhh, you are so close I am almost tempted to award you a point. However, you are not quite there, so this remains locked until your next light-related reply.

Allemano · « **Reply #115 on:** November 20, 2010, 09:20:02 AM »

Is it as simple as that the original pop-up lights got unreliable during brutal rallye treatment?
Maybe they tend to fail and to solve that issue they replaced those with permanent lights.

Allemano · « **Reply #116 on:** November 20, 2010, 09:30:00 AM »

Not uncommon on rallye cars. For instance the rallye Ford GT70 got fixed lamps, too.

Djetset · « **Reply #117 on:** November 22, 2010, 10:10:47 AM »

At last! Well done Allemano, this is exactly the reason

The story goes that the pop-up headlights of the rallying TR7s used to bounce around too much on the rough rally surfaces, meaning at night that the BL drivers had to slow down as they couldn't see as well as the other cars with regular fixed lamps. The BL Works rally team initially tried to fix this by keeping the TR7's pop-up lights permanently fixed up, but even these moved around to much, so the solution from this photo was found with four regular fixed lights, which supposdly improved night vision. However, this solution was never used in a competitve rally as BL decided to drop the TR7 as its main rally car by this point!

So, well done Allemano; two points to you for finally solving this one before its second birthday!

Allemano · « **Reply #118 on:** November 22, 2010, 10:39:49 AM »

Thank you!

grobmotorix · « **Reply #119 on:** November 22, 2010, 02:01:15 PM »

Finally we can bury this beast....

Djetset · « **Reply #120 on:** November 22, 2010, 02:05:30 PM »

Amen to that!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #121 on:** June 08, 2011, 01:59:20 PM »

Still not kicking myself.

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