Author Topic: Solved: Wendax 194 - John Cobb's Napier-Railton in "Pandora and the Flying Dutchman"  (Read 1431 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
A really hot car.

For one point, please respond and identify this car by telling its name, what it is based on and when this picture was taken.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 02:49:51 AM »
up

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 03:08:14 AM »
No expert able to extinguish the fire, professional help needed

Offline woodinsight

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 13671
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 557
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 03:22:14 AM »
German?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2011, 03:30:28 PM »
No

Offline woodinsight

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 13671
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 557
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2011, 03:35:45 PM »
Perhaps it's not European?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2011, 03:39:03 PM »
No, it is European.

Offline faksta

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 4613
  • Country: ru
  • Puzzle Points 409
  • Russian Racer
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2011, 05:50:56 AM »
North European? Say, Swedish?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2011, 01:15:37 PM »
Not Scandinavian

Offline woodinsight

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 13671
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 557
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2011, 01:22:20 PM »
Laystall Special?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2011, 01:59:20 PM »
No

Offline woodinsight

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 13671
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 557
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2011, 04:40:41 PM »
Do you know if this car raced at Brooklands?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2011, 05:07:37 PM »
In its former life, yes

Offline woodinsight

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 13671
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 557
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2011, 06:11:46 PM »
A few possibles for this one.
Can we eliminate that this was formerly the Albert Divo Hotchkiss?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2011, 02:31:51 AM »
We can eliminate that.

Offline woodinsight

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 13671
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 557
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 04:18:01 AM »
I'm finding this one a bit difficult to identify at the moment.
Is (was) it one of the Bluebird Napier-Campbells?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 04:23:00 AM »
No, but close

Offline Allan L

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 4820
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 413
  • Forum Host in Vintage!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2011, 08:15:05 AM »
Well I think that would be the John Cobb Napier Railton.
When it was used as GQ Parachutes' test vehicle it had that frontal treatment, which was unlike the pre-war front end, so I expect that was part of the work done to disguise it for the film "Pandora and the Flying Dutchman". I assume this photo comes from that film, and if so you want the name of the "character" the car played in that film. Can't remember it I ever knew it.
I think the film came out in 1951 or 52 by which time the car was with GQ - presumably the photo/film dates from about 1949
« Last Edit: June 20, 2011, 08:17:24 AM by Allan L »
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Wendax 194
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2011, 08:19:53 AM »
Yes, it is the John Cobb Napier-Railton in the movie "Pandora and the Flying Dutchman". In my source it says the car was called Pandora. The year you mentioned is good enough. One well-earned point for you.

Offline Allan L

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 4820
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 413
  • Forum Host in Vintage!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Pandora Reynolds was the character played by Ava Gardner, and the car was owned by Stephen Cameron, played by Nigel Patrick.
As the car was pushed off a cliff as a token of what he'd do for her love, I don't think the car would have already been called Pandora.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62699
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
A better picture:

Offline Allan L

  • Feature Writer
  • *
  • Posts: 4820
  • Country: gb
  • Puzzle Points 413
  • Forum Host in Vintage!
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
I don't think the car would have already been called Pandora.
I accept the correction!
Opinionated but sometimes wrong