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Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« on: May 10, 2011, 03:32:53 AM »
Who needs more than three wheels for a rallye car?

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

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Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 11:33:28 AM »
This is the last one from me for some time now.
Make, model and year for a point.
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Re: MJW #431
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 11:43:23 AM »
Diablo, from Germany made in the 1920's with an 1100 cc engine?
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Re: MJW #431
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 11:48:30 AM »
Diablo, from Germany made in the 1920's with an 1100 cc engine?
Yes, almost correct.
Make is slightly wrongly spelt and what model is it? and a more definite year please.
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Re: Wendax 165
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 11:59:40 AM »
Sorry Rookies. I will stop this puzzle, because woodinsight just has posted a puzzle with the same car at expert level that almost has been solved.

When woodinsight's puzzle is finally solved, could one of the admins please merge it with this one:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16743.0

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Re: MJW #431
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 12:14:46 PM »
It's actually called a Diabolo.
It was made in Stuttgart and was introduced in 1922, remaining in production until 1927.
It was powered by an 1100 cc Motosacoche engine.
I haven't been able to find out any model name as yet but I'll keep looking!
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Re: MJW #431
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 12:18:12 PM »
Unfortunately this puzzle has turned out to be the same as Wendax's #165.
My apologies for that as I didn't relate the two cars.
Wendax has sportingly said he would stop his puzzle and merge it with this one when solved.
So Carnut we'll await your answer with the correct solution.

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Re: MJW #431
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 12:21:34 PM »
It's actually called a Diabolo.
It was made in Stuttgart and was introduced in 1922, remaining in production until 1927.
It was powered by an 1100 cc Motosacoche engine.
I haven't been able to find out any model name as yet but I'll keep looking!
Thanks Carnut, that's close enough for me.
The model I believe was the 4/10 PS but the rest of your information is correct and another point for you.
Admins - can you merge this one with Wendax's #165 - thanks in advance

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 12:39:51 PM »
From 1924 on it was built in Bruchsal

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Re: Wendax 165
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 12:40:21 PM »
The unmodified picture

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 01:02:42 PM »
Thanks woodinsight.
According to Georgano it was made by Diabolo Kleinauto GmbH or Stuttgart, although I did see elsewhere that it was also made in Bruchsal but I didn't know if it was instead of or as well as!
Georgano doesn't mention a model name at all..
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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2011, 01:17:41 AM »
Merged.

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2011, 02:12:40 AM »
And another picture of the Diabolo, this time driven by Heinz Rühmann, a popular German actor, whose first car this was.

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 12:39:43 PM »
This one looks like a Diabolo to me:

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2012, 09:41:30 AM »
Article from 1926
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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2012, 10:58:14 AM »
Thanks for that article Pal and also to Wendax for his additional photos.
It's heartening to see that information is being added to already solved puzzles - long may it continue!
Many solved puzzles leave one no more informed about the subject...... :(

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2013, 03:55:59 AM »
A Diabolo winning its class at the 1925 Zirlerberg race:

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2014, 03:14:23 PM »
A rare 1926 Diabolo Bruchsal ad:

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2017, 11:46:20 AM »
Heading for the start:

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 05:47:27 AM »
1926
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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2019, 02:04:50 PM »
Thank you!

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Re: Solved - MJW #431 - Diabolo 4/10 PS 1922/27
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2022, 12:12:33 AM »
Another Diabolo raced in 1923

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