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A proposal that was never built. Which company was behind it?
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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 02:24:04 PM »
Probably quite obscure but who knows an Expert may provide the solution

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 04:50:38 PM »
it's a michelotti design. Maybe for Packard?

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 09:02:52 PM »
Not Packard.

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 09:01:51 AM »
Fiat 1400 B Junior Ghia?
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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 12:00:12 PM »
Not that I'm afraid

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 01:30:10 PM »
It is a Michelotti design - I probably didn't make it clear that limo was correct in that regard.

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 04:16:35 PM »
michelotti doesn't give a clue about the type of car, because he made 1200 designs, almost for every car brand, and all look a bit the same from this period.

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 05:03:18 PM »
The marque is very obscure.......

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 05:48:08 PM »
In that case it could be Balbo

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2011, 12:40:24 AM »
Not Balbo

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2011, 05:18:03 AM »
Pros?

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2011, 07:36:21 AM »
Moretti-related?
A car is for life, not just for Christmas.

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2011, 11:48:25 AM »
Not Moretti related and not Italian

In other words a Michelotti design for (2 words - manufacturer)

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2011, 11:57:20 AM »
European?

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2011, 12:04:08 PM »
Armstrong-Siddeley??

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 01:09:07 PM »
European but not Armstrong-Siddeley

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 02:42:37 PM »
Aston Martin?
A car is for life, not just for Christmas.

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 03:29:18 PM »
Not Aston Martin.
A bit of a clue - this company was involved in racing cars and had never built a road-going car before.

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2011, 03:35:17 PM »
Somehow I think I know the story of this sketch, but I can't locate it in my brain...  :-\

mmmmh... a chassis builder perhaps?

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 03:38:04 PM »
Okay, here's another clue -
The name you're looking for is the name of the constructor - first and second names

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2011, 01:30:44 PM »
In the list of Michelotti's cars the only name you can find is Roger Bourdot, who was indeed involved in racing cars and I think he never built a road going car...

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2011, 03:11:54 PM »
In the list of Michelotti's cars the only name you can find is Roger Bourdot, who was indeed involved in racing cars and I think he never built a road going car...
It's a slightly similar situation - no road cars were built - the intention was there.
Racing cars to the highest racing series were built...... 

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2011, 09:34:56 AM »
Was the marque French?

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Re: MJW #222
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 10:49:23 AM »
Yes!