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Solved - MJW #215 - De Kock Ford Special 1970
« on: January 15, 2011, 01:23:28 PM »
Who built this car, where, when and what was it based on?

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 01:50:07 PM »
Wow!
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 11:30:08 PM »
Wowsville fer sher!
Sectioning to the max!!!! Shortened too I see. And right hand drive?
Wowsville just South of Weirdsville, or is it the same place?

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 12:46:45 PM »
Not an easy one but let's see if the Experts know

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2011, 08:58:00 AM »
There's a lot of 1957 Ford in there (somewhere) . . . obviously modified for stock car racing. If the negative isn't flipped, left-hook drive would make me think GB or Oz.  No idea who.
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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2011, 10:33:30 AM »
It isn't from the UK or Australia but built in a country where the rule of the road dictates RHD.
The car is Ford based.

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2011, 12:10:09 PM »
Any ideas Pros?

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2011, 12:21:22 PM »
From Scandinavia? (Sweden?)

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2011, 12:29:22 PM »
Not any Scandinavian country

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 12:52:03 PM »
New Zealand?

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 01:48:29 PM »
A long way from there

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2011, 07:56:44 PM »
There's a lot of 1957 Ford in there (somewhere) . . . obviously modified for stock car racing. 
No roll bar though. Not racing tires either I don't think.

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2011, 08:59:03 PM »
Built for use as a road car, not racing.

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 01:22:22 AM »
Them mirrors look like they're from some little Euro car. Not that it matters.
Anxious to know if there's a side shot of this sawed-off '57 Runtero. Sho-nuff is different!

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 01:38:03 AM »
I have a small side view of the car, not very good but better than nothing at all!

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 03:23:16 AM »
Looks like it was based on a '57 Ford Ranchero.

No answers on the other two questions, but a guess.

Guyana?

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 03:30:39 AM »
Yes, it was based on a Ford Ranchero of c.1957.

Not Guyana though - wrong continent

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 03:48:07 AM »
Kenya?

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 08:57:04 AM »
I've seen quite a few cool-looking Ranchero customs - this isn't one of them.
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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2011, 12:29:40 PM »
Kenya?
You are on the correct continent but not Kenya

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2011, 07:33:33 PM »
Holy crap! That's nAsTy looking from the side.
I bet it drives good though. Looks like they were going for '55-'57 T-Bird proportions...in a way...in a bad way.  :)
It's possible they might have even used a 2 seater Thunderbird frame. Maybe. At second thought, it looks even shorter than a T-Boid.

Something looks strange in that last pic. Just behind the vent window on the roof, it sorta looks like the pic has been messed with. Or perhaps it's just horrendous body work!  :o
« Last Edit: January 23, 2011, 07:35:47 PM by Vincent Vell Vet »

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2011, 09:33:13 PM »
I'm going to suggest South Africa, because this style '57 Ford was sold and assembled there, not in Australia.  I came to this puzzle a bit late.

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2011, 12:36:21 AM »
Holy crap! That's nAsTy looking from the side.
I bet it drives good though. Looks like they were going for '55-'57 T-Bird proportions...in a way...in a bad way.  :)
It's possible they might have even used a 2 seater Thunderbird frame. Maybe. At second thought, it looks even shorter than a T-Boid.

Something looks strange in that last pic. Just behind the vent window on the roof, it sorta looks like the pic has been messed with. Or perhaps it's just horrendous body work!  :o
I suspect this side view shows the car before the bodywork was finalised. The finished car looks much better.

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2011, 12:37:16 AM »
I'm going to suggest South Africa, because this style '57 Ford was sold and assembled there, not in Australia.  I came to this puzzle a bit late.
African country but not South Africa

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Re: MJW #215
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2011, 07:45:49 PM »
Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)?