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Re: What car #299
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2008, 05:30:22 PM »
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 03:47:45 AM »
This song keeps running through my head....

"Are you a boy, or are you a girl"  ;)
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 05:53:54 AM »
If that's a hint, it beats me...
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2008, 07:16:58 AM »
If one knows the car, they know the story, so I'm not giving anything away.

If they don't, the hint means nothing.  8)
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 08:23:23 AM »
I did read up on the story, but it still didn't tell me anything  ???  - looking forward to learning the connection when it's solved. Shouldn't take too long.
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 08:49:40 AM »
It's the infamous Dale...

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Re: What car #299
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 08:52:10 AM »
...From 1974-1975. Couldn't find an exact model name: <<< Link Removed >>>
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2008, 08:58:54 AM »
...Perhaps I should call it The Twentieth Century Motor Car Company Dale.  Later proposed models were to be called Revell and Vanagon but this is not either of them.

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Re: What car #299
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2008, 09:37:08 AM »

"Are you a boy, or are you a girl"  ;)
I see what you mean now.
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Re: What car #299
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2008, 10:07:09 AM »
I don't. But then again, I'm not American. Explain?

It's the Dale, all right. A point for Tuckeroo!
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Don’t Take Those Boobs To Town, Boy!

The middle of the ‘70s. The oil crisis was on full. Car and Driver magazine called me. The editor said, “The Twentieth Century Motor Car Corporation is an automobile company started by entrepreneur, Jerry Dean Michael. The Company’s flagship vehicle is the Dale, a prototype two-seater sports car designed by a Dale Clift,” he said.

Michael had told Car and Driver “It is powered by an 850 cc air-cooled BMW engine which turns out 40 horsepower and would hit 85 miles per hour and get 70 mpg fuel economy.’”


The Dale...

The editor said Michael had millions of dollars in backing from private parties and a 150,000 square foot assembly plant in Encino with over 100 employees. Michael told him he expected sales of 88,000 cars in the first year and 250,000 in the second year with only a $2,000 price tag per car. “Hot,” said I.

“Mike, get us pictures of the car and Michael,” said the editor.

I went out to the plant location….driving forever to nowhere. Finding a crystal meth factory would have been easier — it felt like I was ultimately that close to Apache Junction. Finally found the alleged factory somewhere east of Encino in the land of Nod.

Driving in a small alleyway between a bunch of rotting wooden chicken sheds I found a dirty yellow building that could be the plant. Not quite 150,000 square feet but it had walls, sad walls, and no chickens.

It also had no door and dirt floors. Not exactly a ratty chicken shed, it was a filthy empty cattle barn that smelled of scam.

I wandered into emptiness. In a far corner was something yellow, looking like a broken-off plastic airplane cockpit from a scary amusement park ride operated with a big long stick turning the circling mini-winged cockpits on and off by some three-time losing perv offender.

Under one bare light bulb, about three guys — not 100 — in lab coats wearing Clark Kent glasses and scribbling on clipboards were studiously circling this thing. There was one rear wheel missing.

“By eliminating a wheel in the rear, we saved 300 pounds and knocked more than $300 from the car’s price. The Dale is 190 inches long, 51 inches high, and weighs less than 1,000 pounds,” had said Michael.


The inimitable Dale.
Apparently he had eliminated anything else that made this alien’s egg a car. There was no steering wheel, no gas pedal. No glass windows.

The clipboard guys left after their opening number performed for my benefit and I was left alone with the Geigermobile. Knowing I shouldn’t, I opened the engine compartment hatch. Well, hello. The motor’s branding did start with B but didn’t follow with M and W. It was Briggs followed by Stratton. Like in your granddad’s power mower.

Then a roar of a real car motor came in from outside, justly enhanced by toots of truck air horns signaling the arrival of our host in a replica of the “Elvis the King’s” Lincoln, complete with gold monogram on the door. It hit the stoppers. Motor off. I was on the passenger’s side. But I saw the high-heeled, opened-toe pump hit the ground below the door edge and the top of the teased bouffant hair just over the door.

From around the front of the Lincoln, cigarette in hand, offering a shake with the other, all dressed in a pale yellow pants suit with the heels, came Jerry Dean, who, with a voice like Broderick Crawford, introduced himself: “Hello, I’m Elizabeth.”

Miz Carmichael claimed to be the widow of a NASA structural engineer and a mother of five. ”She” was 6-foot tall, over 200 lb in weight, and also claimed to be a farm girl from Indiana. In reality, Jerry Dean Michael was a transvestite, the father of those five kids, and had been wanted by the police since 1961. It seems the Carmichael get-up was a kill-two-birds-with-one-stone disguise.

The next part I feel sort of guilty about: manipulating a subject to caricature them. But I could not resist directing “Elizabeth” to stand in front of the Dale thing. Legs apart, viewing the tire between his legs, hands on ample hips with that cigarette.

The company would ultimately prove to be a sham when Michael went into hiding with investors’ money.

He was eventually found working under an alias in a flower shop and was arrested.

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The "are you a boy or a girl" refers to the Dale's marketer, one Ms. Liz Carmichael who was apparently born Mr. Jerry Dean Michael and had undergone or was undergoing a transgender operation concurrent with the marketing of the car, though this is disputed by some sources.  One reason it is disputed is because Carmichael disappeared with the start-up funds (and was later charged for that crime) and some believed his identity as "Liz" Carmichael was simply a ruse to trick investors before attempting to vanish.

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...who was apparently born Mr. Jerry Dean Michael and had undergone or was undergoing a transgender operation...

Yeah, I had read that, I just didn't make the connection. I thought it had something to do with the song by The Barbarians  :)
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It's both.  8)
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A fascinating story that I knew nothing about, Thank you.

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A colour view of the Dale

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Here 'she' is...
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