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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2010, 02:36:28 PM »
Is #11 an Abarth?
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2010, 02:40:35 PM »
Is #9 a Brabham BT8 derivate?
Yes it is!

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2010, 02:49:36 PM »
Is #1 the Viotti 4CV shown at the 1955 Turin Show?
I'm not familiar with the Viotti 4CV but this car dates from 1956.
The name I have is different.

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2010, 02:51:06 PM »
Is #11 an Abarth?
Not an Abarth - much less known than that

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2010, 02:59:01 PM »
Is #9 a Brabham BT8 derivate?
Yes it is!


Could it be based on the car wrecked in 1964 by Epstein/Wilks duo? I simply want to know something about it - never heard of any BT8 Coupes - it was not MRD's own project, I suppose?
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2010, 03:32:49 PM »
Is #9 a Brabham BT8 derivate?
Yes it is!


Could it be based on the car wrecked in 1964 by Epstein/Wilks duo?
The photo shows Clive Lacey racing the Brabham BT8 coupe at Brands Hatch in 1968.
I'm not sure if its the Epstein/Wilks car that was wrecked in 1964, I'd have to do some research on that.

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2010, 03:47:21 PM »
Now that you have uncovered the driver, looks like I was right - according to Allen Brown's amazing site, chassis SC-4-64, wrecked by Jackie Epstein in 1964 and raced by Clive Lacey through 1966-1968.

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2010, 03:51:37 PM »
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2010, 09:44:57 PM »
#6 - 1953 Scampolo 750 Barquette, based on DKW mechanicals

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #84 on: December 09, 2010, 02:15:03 AM »
#6 - that's the car - well done

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #85 on: December 09, 2010, 12:08:11 PM »
Huh..amazing! I thought Scampolo only made single-seaters.

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #86 on: December 09, 2010, 12:26:27 PM »
It's true, they made sports racing cars also.
How many I'm not sure - I'm still researching that

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #87 on: December 13, 2010, 03:36:43 PM »
Is #8 Buckler related?

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #88 on: December 13, 2010, 04:59:34 PM »
#1 a Motto 4CV?

#2 1966 Piper-Ford GTS
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #89 on: December 13, 2010, 11:12:14 PM »
#8 - not related to a Buckler

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #90 on: December 13, 2010, 11:16:35 PM »
#1 - not Motto
It's not the name I have. As I mentioned earlier I don't know if the body was commissioned by a separate coachbuilder.

#2 - Yes it is a Piper, but the model name I'm looking for is Piper xxx. I have the year as 1965.
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2010, 08:43:23 AM »
In that case #2 is a Piper GT Lotus Ford (another image below).
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2010, 11:52:42 AM »
Yes, you are correct Djetset.
It is also referred to as a Piper SRC

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2010, 12:38:32 PM »
Okay - some more clues on those remaining -

#1 - the make starts with the letter G
I don't know about the body, it looks like Zagato but I can't confirm
So what I'm looking for is Gxxxxxx-Renault 4cv Coupe

#8 - it's from the USA Canada - known make - six letters
We've established it has a Jowett Jupiter engine and it is one of the first cars from this builder

#11 - we've established it's Italian
clue "it sounds as though it has a Romany connection"

#18 - it is British
clue "freezing - well she would be, it's Silverstone in the autumn"

#20 - it is Australian
clue "one-off named after a well-known surname"
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2010, 12:48:57 PM »
Gordini would be too logical for #1 I guess  :P

Could #20 be the Cooper Type 33 Jaguar, built for Peter Whitehead in 1955?
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2010, 10:35:32 PM »
#1 - not Gordini - builders initials were J-C. G.

#20 - not Cooper-Jaguar - surname of the constructor is the same as a very famous name current in motor sport today. I don't know very much about the car at the moment but it is a one-off if I remember.

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #96 on: December 15, 2010, 10:58:03 PM »
#20 : Hamilton Special?

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #97 on: December 15, 2010, 11:37:54 PM »
#20 - good guess but sorry not that.
The name is a name of a manufacturer

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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #98 on: December 16, 2010, 01:16:22 AM »
#01 Jean Claude Geurie Guénard? :scratch:
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Re: MJW #120 - Sports Racing Part 1
« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2010, 01:44:27 AM »
#1 - You are almost there

Jean-Claude G.....r?

I think as it's pretty obscure the only way to solve is to bring in clues in the form of letters.