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Title: SOLVED: Djetset #470 - Bedford BA prototype
Post by: Djetset on December 19, 2010, 07:07:22 AM
Can you crack this one for Christmas?  I think this is quite a tough puzzle, so should help to keep you occupied over the coming Festive holidays.  So, make and model name please for a point.  Once solved, I shall add some more photos of this unusual vehicle.

Have fun, and a very Merry Christmas to you all   :joker:
Title: Re: Djetset #470 - Christmas Cracker Edition
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 19, 2010, 07:09:09 AM
Rookies get all of the good presents... :'(


 ;)

Title: Re: Djetset #470 - Christmas Cracker Edition
Post by: Djetset on December 22, 2010, 03:34:30 PM
Time to spread the Christmas cheer around, so have the Experts got any ideas?
Title: Re: Djetset #470 - Christmas Cracker Edition
Post by: Tom_I on December 23, 2010, 02:43:46 PM
The sliding front door and upturned door handle keep reminding me of a Bedford CA van.

Anything to do with Vauxhall/Bedford in the UK?
Title: Re: Djetset #470 - Christmas Cracker Edition
Post by: Djetset on December 23, 2010, 03:17:37 PM
Very much something to do with Vauxhall/Bedford, so any idea what this model was planned to be called?  Locked to you.
Title: Re: Djetset #470 - Christmas Cracker Edition
Post by: Tom_I on December 24, 2010, 06:35:49 AM
I've drawn a blank on this one so far, I'm afraid. :-\

So please open it up for someone else to have a shot. :)
Title: Re: Djetset #470 - Christmas Cracker Edition
Post by: Djetset on January 03, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
OK, thanks Tom.  I have awarded you a point anyway for guessing that this is a Bedford, but what could the planned model name have been?  Now open to all.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on January 18, 2011, 06:11:48 PM
Up to the Pros for the model name.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: guido66 on February 08, 2011, 01:43:56 AM
Taxi prototype?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on February 08, 2011, 02:39:42 AM
No, not specifically a taxi prototype, but planned as a van and/or a 'people carrier'.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 23, 2011, 02:34:50 AM
Bedford CA Dormobile Caravan 1961
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on May 23, 2011, 04:47:28 PM
It is a Bedford, but not a CA.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Austin on May 29, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
1971 Bedford Autproject 3 based on CF?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on May 30, 2011, 09:54:36 AM
No, this one is earlier than 1971.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 05, 2011, 02:18:25 PM
Bedford 10/12 Cwt Van
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on June 07, 2011, 06:26:22 PM
Do you know it's proposed model name?  Locked to Oguerrerob until next reply.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on June 09, 2011, 10:48:47 AM
Not quite sure. All that I've found out is that they called it Dormobile. Then they drop Bedford name for Astravan. If not let it open to everyone!!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on June 09, 2011, 12:44:38 PM
Sorry, but not quite the answer I was looking for.  Dormobile was a UK-based company that converted many Bedford vans into campers (and mini buses).  The Astravan was the last model to wear a Bedford badge before being re-branded Vauxhall, in line with GM UK's the passenger car model range.

Now open to all-comers again.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: guido66 on June 09, 2011, 01:14:26 PM
Shooting Brake?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on June 09, 2011, 08:09:19 PM
No, not that.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: max on June 10, 2011, 09:37:28 AM
Dormobile was a Martin Walter product, and they and Kennex were, from memory, the main CA converters.  Was this from either of them, or was it a GM in-house development?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on June 10, 2011, 11:14:48 AM
This was a 100% in-house GM design.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: wingroad on August 24, 2011, 09:09:03 AM
Is it based on the Viva HC or is it FWD ?
Front looks CF like but appears to be too short to be RWD.
Vivacity if Viva based.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on August 24, 2011, 09:14:01 AM
It is not Viva HC-based, but I believe that it is RWD as GM in Europe took far too many years to drag itself into the FWD era.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Carnut on August 24, 2011, 10:18:16 AM
I thought we'd already established this was based on a Bedford CA (Tom I's reply #3)?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on August 24, 2011, 10:37:32 AM
It is a Bedford, but not a CA.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on August 29, 2011, 11:58:25 AM
I've found this picture
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Carnut on August 29, 2011, 02:14:53 PM
That's the CA!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 05, 2011, 06:37:34 AM
The Black Hole beckons!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: wingroad on September 05, 2011, 02:15:06 PM
Is it based on the Bedford CB which was to replace the CA van but for various reasons was cancelled.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 05, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
Nice idea, not sadly not a correct one, as this is smaller than the both the Bedford CA and CB.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: woodinsight on September 05, 2011, 03:26:06 PM
If it's a 100% in-house design that probably rules out the name Roma that may have been a Martin Walter design?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 05, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
No, not Roma as that was a Martin Walker name, as you rightly say.  This Bedford has a shorter model designation.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: max on September 05, 2011, 03:44:34 PM
Thinking of the era and the look of its rear end, the Luton poetry circle would have named it the "DA".
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 05, 2011, 03:50:28 PM
Oooh, you are getting much warmer.  Not DA, but locked to you until your next reply.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: max on September 05, 2011, 06:08:09 PM
Thanks, but please unlock. I'd just be answering "DB" or "DC" etc etc in turn with absolutely nothing to base it on.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: wingroad on September 08, 2011, 02:29:13 PM
its not something stupid like Bedford MPV is it ?
If not is it 2 or 3 letters or a proper name.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 08, 2011, 04:03:45 PM
The name has just two letters.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: guido66 on September 08, 2011, 04:10:21 PM
Lets try something in the direction of the HA / Beagle. I supposed it's a bit older than that, so my guess is GA.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 08, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
GA? I'm honoured, as they are my initials!  However, it's not GA.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: woodinsight on September 08, 2011, 05:47:55 PM
EA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 08, 2011, 05:56:51 PM
EA is not in the game!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: woodinsight on September 08, 2011, 05:59:09 PM
Perhaps DF?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 08, 2011, 06:00:00 PM
Getting colder.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 08, 2011, 09:08:40 PM
HA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: woodinsight on September 09, 2011, 01:11:35 AM
DB?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: guido66 on September 09, 2011, 02:23:48 AM
FA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 09, 2011, 02:37:01 AM
GA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 09, 2011, 03:30:44 AM
None of the above (and GA has already been sugested).
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 09, 2011, 03:45:27 AM
PA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Allan L on September 09, 2011, 04:36:47 AM
PA?
That was a Cresta, and usually two-tone pink/rust in colour ;D
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 09, 2011, 04:51:44 AM
PA?
That was a Cresta, and usually two-tone pink/rust in colour ;D
:bag: Even I should have known that!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: woodinsight on September 09, 2011, 06:33:24 AM
DC?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: wingroad on September 09, 2011, 03:01:24 PM
PV for Passenger Van ?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 12, 2011, 08:21:31 AM
Not DC.  Not PV
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: wingroad on September 12, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
PC for Passenger Cargo ?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 12, 2011, 03:00:19 PM
MK?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 12, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
Not MK.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: wingroad on September 14, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
HD ?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 14, 2011, 03:20:56 PM
Not HD.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: woodinsight on September 16, 2011, 01:52:35 PM
DV?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 03:35:47 PM
Not DV.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 03:46:06 PM
DD?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
Not DD.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 16, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
DD?

Good thing there are only 676 two-letter combinations available.  :D
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:04:25 PM
Nothing wrong about Double D, isn't it?  ;)
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 04:15:46 PM
Clue.  Head lower down the alphabetic range.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
XA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 04:27:33 PM
Lower, not higher!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:38:47 PM
 :bag:
CC?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 04:40:10 PM
CC?  No, it's not a CoupeCabriolet  ;D

Go lower.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:41:05 PM
AA? :hyper:
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 16, 2011, 04:41:36 PM
Let's start with AA
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 16, 2011, 04:42:09 PM
OK AB
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 04:43:35 PM
This could also take a while!  Move forward very slightly.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:45:24 PM
BB?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 04:46:06 PM
Oohh, so close!
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:46:51 PM
BA?
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Djetset on September 16, 2011, 04:47:53 PM
GOAL!!! At last.  Well done.

The Bedford BA was an early 1960s prototype for a small delivery van and station wagon, based on the Vauxhall Viva HA.  Development stopped before it could make production.  I have another photo of the BA that I will upload after the Goodwood Revival is over.
Title: Re: Djetset #470
Post by: Wendax on September 16, 2011, 04:48:56 PM
I love those intellectually challenging puzzles!  :D
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #470 - Bedford BA prototype
Post by: Tom_I on September 16, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
I really would love to know more about this vehicle.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #470 - Bedford BA prototype
Post by: Allemano on March 09, 2025, 04:35:45 AM
According to a very reliable source these are two concepts with a certain code each: