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Re: Faceless
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM »
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2011, 11:48:51 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
Is it the EL 4000 ?
I think that's close enough. My source reports that it's a SIG 4,0 ton electric truck from 1941.

here's the unaltered picture:
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2011, 10:13:09 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on September 29, 2011, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: pguillem on September 29, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
Is it the EL 4000 ?
I think that's close enough. My source reports that it's a SIG 4,0 ton electric truck from 1941.


From GTÜ Oldtimer Service

Titel: SIG Elektro-Liefer- und Plattformwagen (1933-1980)
Artikel-No: P026442
Ausgabe: LUK-2010-06-S70-6
Publikation: Last & Kraft
Kurzextrakt: Historie der Schweizer Industrie-Gesellschaft und deren Produktion von Elektrolastern, Plattformwagen und Staplern. Zahlreiche Fahrzeugabbildungen der Elektro-Lieferwagen EL 1000, EL 1500 und EL 4000. Historisches Bildmaterial der Typen und Modelle
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2011, 10:14:32 AM »
Ah thanks!
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2011, 07:11:52 PM »
#9 : Still EWL 1502 ?
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM »
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
« Last Edit: September 30, 2011, 11:27:37 PM by Oguerrerob »
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #56 on: October 01, 2011, 01:04:55 AM »
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama

I know the make of this truck.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #57 on: October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM »
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)

After that pguillem gets his chance.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2011, 09:29:57 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
After that pguillem gets his chance.
With the unretouched picture it's not really that hard.  :D
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2011, 09:43:18 AM »
Quote from: Wendax on October 01, 2011, 09:29:57 AM
With the unretouched picture it's not really that hard.  :D
Of course I meant not only pguillem is allowed to answer after 24h.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #60 on: October 01, 2011, 01:17:57 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)

After that pguillem gets his chance.
That's what I've found in my "research": Elektro-Auto Post-LKW Ein Original-Postpaketwagen E5 aus dem Jahr 1950 mit 10 t Gesamtgewicht - davon der Batteriekasten 2,2 t (An original postal package cars E5 from the year 1950 with 10 tons - of which the battery box 2.2 t).

If it's not enough please let the others do!
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2011, 10:59:25 AM »
Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 01, 2011, 01:17:57 PM
Quote from: Allemano on October 01, 2011, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on September 30, 2011, 11:15:09 PM
6 - Elektro-Auto Österreichische Post-u Tel - Verwaltung (Austria) (Post-electric car from 1950's) at Museum of Technology Ferlach Historama
Oguerrerob: you need a little more 'research' than that...
Locked for you...and I'm really looking forward to your reply in the next 24 h.. :)

After that pguillem gets his chance.
That's what I've found in my "research": Elektro-Auto Post-LKW Ein Original-Postpaketwagen E5 aus dem Jahr 1950 mit 10 t Gesamtgewicht - davon der Batteriekasten 2,2 t (An original postal package cars E5 from the year 1950 with 10 tons - of which the battery box 2.2 t).

If it's not enough please let the others do!
Unlocked. The company's name is missing.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2011, 11:18:19 AM »
The logo is the one of Österreichische Automobil Fabrik.  But  there is smething strange : I didn't find anay reference to an ÖAF Elektro model on the web, nor to an E5 model, even when searching for Österreichische Automobil Fabrik instead of ÖAF. More strangely, I can't understand why the people at Ferlach didn't describe the truck as an ÖAF, as ÖAF is well-known in Austria, where many models can be seen
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2011, 11:21:26 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on October 02, 2011, 11:18:19 AM
The logo is the one of Österreichische Automobil Fabrik.  But  there is smething strange : I didn't find anay reference to an ÖAF Elektro model on the web, nor to an E5 model, even when searching for Österreichische Automobil Fabrik instead of ÖAF. More strangely, I can't understand why the people at Ferlach didn't describe the truck as an ÖAF, as ÖAF is well-known in Austria, where many models can be seen
So do I!  ???

Anyway, the logo seems to be definetly ÖAF, so, point for pguillem. I don't know if 'E5' is the right designation at all.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2011, 01:15:15 PM »
I've come across some more information about this postal van. It was built in 1950/51 by the company "Elektrofahrzeugbau Joh. Knittl" from Vienna, based on an ÖAF chassis. The electric engine was from Brown Boveri. A special development was the "Walzenfahrschalter" (roller drive switch?), a device to regulate the electric engine in times when the semiconductor technology wasn't invented. The official designation was ÖAF Typ 2 ENO. 160 trucks were built. The pictured car was in use until 1982.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #65 on: October 04, 2011, 01:24:28 PM »
Thank you! I think this is worth an extra point as it is far more than all of my sources reveal.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #66 on: October 04, 2011, 01:51:05 PM »
Quote from: Allemano on October 04, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
Thanks you! I thinks this is worth an extra point as it is far more than all of my sources reveal.
Thank you.

In fact, I was looking for some clues for #9. Is it by a well-known German electric truck maker of the 1950's or rather obscure?
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #67 on: October 04, 2011, 01:54:43 PM »
Not obscure at all. (for attentive autopuzzlers!)

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Re: Faceless
« Reply #68 on: October 04, 2011, 02:01:45 PM »
Lloyd?
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #69 on: October 04, 2011, 02:03:36 PM »
No
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #70 on: October 04, 2011, 02:11:43 PM »
Is it East German?
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #71 on: October 04, 2011, 02:13:26 PM »
No.
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #72 on: October 04, 2011, 02:26:03 PM »
Let's sum up: #9 is a West German electric truck by a well-known manufacturer. It is not Bleichert and not Bergmann. You didn't answer pguillem's question whether it is a Still. I assume it is not by a manufacturer already featured in this puzzle. Am I right?
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #73 on: October 04, 2011, 02:35:13 PM »
Quote from: pguillem on September 30, 2011, 07:11:52 PM
#9 : Still EWL 1502 ?
I'm so sorry Wendax, but indeed, I did not realize pguillem's reply.  :-\

I have it a Still 1,5 to electric truck , but think that pguillem is close enough to earn that final point!


Well done gentlemen! It was a pleasure for me!  :)
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Re: Faceless
« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2011, 02:51:56 PM »
Total:

pguillem: 6 points. :applause:

Siata1: 2 points

Oguerrerob: 2 points

SACO: 1 point

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