Author Topic: Solved: Allemano's № 700 - BMW 327 by Franz Engelhard built at Vereinigte Werkstätten München  (Read 2767 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2011, 03:57:21 AM »
Vereinigte Werkstätten?

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2011, 09:43:05 AM »
Vereinigte Werkstätten?
Yes, locked for you to tell me which person was involved and what the car was exactly based on.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2011, 10:05:31 AM »
Unfortunately, I can't get hold of my books (I' moving soon). I've seen a picture of this car somewhere before, but I just can't get a name connected. My guess for the base car would be BMW 328. Please unlock.

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2011, 10:09:53 AM »
Unfortunately, I can't get hold of my books (I' moving soon). I've seen a picture of this car somewhere before, but I just can't get a name connected. My guess for the base car would be BMW 328. Please unlock.
Very close, but not on a 328...

If you really want I unlock it again.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2011, 12:16:33 PM »
327?

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #30 on: October 10, 2011, 12:19:50 PM »
327?
Yes, but now for the hard part...

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2011, 07:57:18 AM »
The builder is closely related to the coachbuilding company.

Offline bentleybob

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 1237
  • Country: nl
  • Puzzle Points 201
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2011, 08:58:44 AM »
Georg Engelhard ?

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2011, 09:04:57 AM »
Georg Engelhard ?
Veeeery close, but it's not Georg Engelhard.
Locked for you to try again!

Offline bentleybob

  • Expert
  • *
  • Posts: 1237
  • Country: nl
  • Puzzle Points 201
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2011, 07:57:33 PM »
Let's say Herr Engelhard then... :P Sorry no brilliant further ideas..

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2011, 03:48:04 AM »
Georg is a "Herr Engelhard", too.
It was built by one of his relatives using the Engelhard workshops for his own project.

Offline SACO

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 16761
  • Country: fr
  • Puzzle Points 421
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2011, 07:07:12 AM »
Dixit Autolexikon :

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2011, 07:18:08 AM »
Dixit Autolexikon :
Thank you for that snippet, but as I told before I have differerent info for this car.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2011, 10:56:06 AM »
Unfortunately, Mr. Rosellen aka Thyssen-Bornemissza isn't too reliable.

Offline Paul Jaray

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 22326
  • Country: it
  • Puzzle Points 2073
  • MVP
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2011, 11:46:01 AM »
Unfortunately, Mr. Rosellen aka Thyssen-Bornemissza isn't too reliable.
Is it working again?

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2011, 11:56:55 AM »
I don't think so. I meant the information he gave in his books as well.

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #41 on: October 31, 2011, 05:05:40 PM »
Is it still locked? I know who you are looking for.

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2011, 05:18:28 PM »
Go for it, Wendax!

Offline Wendax

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 62684
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 2348
  • e^^(i*pi)+1=0
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2011, 05:21:36 PM »
According to a 30 year old magazine article, it should be Franz Engelhard, the son of Georg Engelhard.

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Re: Allemano's № 700
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2011, 05:24:43 PM »
According to a 30 year old magazine article, it should be Franz Engelhard, the son of Georg Engelhard.
Yes! Well done!

Offline grobmotorix

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 15118
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 457
  • Please play fair guys
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • My car photography
A second source (Das Auto 17/1949) also claims this to be a BMW 319:
« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 06:18:21 PM by grobmotorix »

Offline grobmotorix

  • Professional
  • *
  • Posts: 15118
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 457
  • Please play fair guys
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
    • My car photography
So, I am quite sure this was a small 319, which also would fit much better to the puzzle car if you compare it with the big 327...

Offline Allemano

  • Editor
  • *
  • Posts: 18482
  • Country: de
  • Puzzle Points 821
  • almost retired
  • YearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYearsYears
Potentially you're right!