Author Topic: Solved: Allemano's № 634 - 1958 "Käfer" by TFW Thalheim-Erzgebirge "Junge Techniker"  (Read 1561 times)

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« Last Edit: May 28, 2011, 06:59:45 AM by Allemano »

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 07:05:04 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 03:52:38 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 06:24:15 AM »
From beyond the Iran Curtain (from a western point of view :))?
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 06:32:03 AM »
From beyond the Iran Curtain (from a western point of view :))?
So to say... (not from Iran, though  ;D)

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 07:39:46 AM »
East Germany?
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2011, 08:11:35 AM »

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2011, 04:09:51 PM »
This car was built by the East German IGF (Interessengemeinschaft Fahrzeugbau) of the “Club of young Technicians Thalheim“. It was presented in November 1958 at the “First Central Fair of the Masters of Tomorrow” in Leipzig. It featured a 350 cc single-cylinder engine.
 

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 04:58:45 PM »
This car was built by the East German IGF (Interessengemeinschaft Fahrzeugbau) of the “Club of young Technicians Thalheim“. It was presented in November 1958 at the “First Central Fair of the Masters of Tomorrow” in Leipzig. It featured a 350 cc single-cylinder engine.
 
So far so good, but this car got a certain name!

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 05:18:34 PM »
Unfortunately it is a name I'm not aware of. I found this picture many years ago in an East German newspaper article, probably commemorating the 25th anniversary of the MMM 1958. That article didn't mention a name for the car. The only book I know it is mentioned in is the Thyssen "Europäische Kleinwagen 1955-1965". But since I sold the particular picture and information to Mr. Thyssen, there isn't a name mentioned either.

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2011, 05:24:34 PM »
Unfortunately it is a name I'm not aware of. I found this picture many years ago in an East German newspaper article, probably commemorating the 25th anniversary of the MMM 1958. That article didn't mention a name for the car. The only book I know it is mentioned in is the Thyssen "Europäische Kleinwagen 1955-1965". But since I sold the particular picture and information to Mr. Thyssen, there isn't a name mentioned either.
Interisting. I found it online. I lock this puzzle for you for 24h to find the name!

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2011, 03:50:36 PM »
Can we say that the 24 hours is over? I'd like to put this one to bed before I go to sleep.
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2011, 03:54:54 PM »
Go ahead, Pal. I didn't find a name. Just one guess: Sputnik 350

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2011, 03:59:51 PM »
Go ahead, Pal. I didn't find a name. Just one guess: Sputnik 350
Not Sputnik!

Okay Pal, hole it in!

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2011, 04:50:47 PM »
Go ahead, Pal. I didn't find a name. Just one guess: Sputnik 350
Not Sputnik!

Okay Pal, hole it in!
or someone else of course...

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2011, 04:54:29 PM »
Meanwhile I try to be creative: Fortschritt?

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2011, 04:59:14 PM »
or Pionier...

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2011, 06:06:57 PM »
Surprisingly neither "Fortschritt" nor "Pionier". :D
And not "Broiler" by the way...

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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2011, 11:13:33 PM »
The name is Käfer
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2011, 12:53:40 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 634
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2013, 02:56:14 PM »
The name is Käfer
Simple as that!
In the picture you posted here, it says "of the type Käfer". I don't know if the text was made in Western Germany, but if so, I would think it might mean it was build similar to the beetle?
Just a thought.

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No. As you can see it doesn't resemble the Volkswagen Käfer in any way. I guess it was coincidence or they tried to get a little attention in the eastern part of Germany.

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As said, just a thought. Though it looks like the suspension and engine are in a similar way to the beetle. Anyways. As said, just a thought.