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Solved: Allemano's № 546 - Apal-Ford (formerly Dock Special)
« on: December 30, 2010, 06:24:12 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2011, 08:49:29 AM »
familiar, isn't it? Let see what Experts have to say...
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2011, 12:25:43 PM »
Based on BMW 700?
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2011, 12:29:40 PM »
Not BMW powered.
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 08:10:43 AM »
PROmoted.
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 10:53:49 AM »
Looks like NSU engine?
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 11:10:00 AM »
I would have said the same, but no, it's not what it looks like...
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2011, 02:03:42 PM »
Apal Ford  - Benvoisin/Scheeren at the Spa 1000km 1967
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 02:06:22 PM »
Quote from: woodinsight on February 02, 2011, 02:03:42 PM
Apal Ford  - Benvoisin/Scheeren at the Spa 1000km 1967

without doubt you've identified the right car, but I have something else, though...

locked for you till your next reply
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 02:42:30 PM »
Okay let me explain what I have on this car -

The car appeared briefly at the Spa 1000km in 1966 in the hands of Pierre Bonvoisin where the original entry apparently quoted the engine as being Porsche/VW but it turned up with a Ford 1600 fitted.
It started the race but retired with cooling system problems (overheating).
Pierre Bonvoisin was supposed to share the driving with fellow Belgians Gerald Gonthier and Lambert Dock.
In 1967 Pierre Bonvoisin and Wim Scheeren turned up with the car again but after practice did not start the race for the probable reason that the car was non-competitive (they were slowest).

The interesting part here is that it appears the car was identical in specification to the Dock Special that had appeared at Zolder in 1963 except that it bore a new body by Apal.

I don't know if that was the extra information you were looking for Allemano but that's all I know without further research.
« Last Edit: February 03, 2011, 11:27:28 PM by woodinsight »
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2011, 09:14:27 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2011, 09:22:41 AM »
Oh sorry, I forgot that one..
I have my files at home, so unfortunately you have to wait just a little more..
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 01:37:45 PM »
No problemo...
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2011, 08:39:42 AM »
Quote from: woodinsight on February 03, 2011, 02:42:30 PM
Okay let me explain what I have on this car -

The car appeared briefly at the Spa 1000km in 1966 in the hands of Pierre Bonvoisin where the original entry apparently quoted the engine as being Porsche/VW but it turned up with a Ford 1600 fitted.
It started the race but retired with cooling system problems (overheating).
Pierre Bonvoisin was supposed to share the driving with fellow Belgians Gerald Gonthier and Lambert Dock.
In 1967 Pierre Bonvoisin and Wim Scheeren turned up with the car again but after practice did not start the race for the probable reason that the car was non-competitive (they were slowest).

The interesting part here is that it appears the car was identical in specification to the Dock Special that had appeared at Zolder in 1963 except that it bore a new body by Apal.

I don't know if that was the extra information you were looking for Allemano but that's all I know without further research.
Finally a reply.. ;)

I have the name "Apal Dock" special for it.
Is it me or you who mixed up something?  ???
« Last Edit: February 07, 2011, 08:51:09 AM by Allemano »
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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 10:05:29 AM »
I've just re-checked the entry lists/results for the Spa 1,000km in 1967 - both in Wimpffen's and Delsaux's books.
(see below for extracts plus another view of the car in practice for the event)

The confusion I believe is that the 1963 Dock Special was used as the basis for this car but it was never called Apal Dock Special whilst it was competing at Spa. It was always referred to as an Apal-Ford.

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Re: Allemano's № 546
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 10:11:26 AM »
Okay I'm convinced! :)

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