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Solved: Allemano's № 504 - 1968/69 Bizzarrini Strada 2+2
« on: October 15, 2010, 05:08:17 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 05:21:21 AM »
Look of the front reminds me Bizzarrini's cars... Is it something from Giotto Bizzarrini?

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2010, 06:23:34 AM »
Well yes, do you know which one? I give you 24h to find the right model.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 10:19:02 AM »
missed opportunity — open again!

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 08:45:41 AM »
To me it looks like a Bizzarini styled Maserati Ghibli or Indy...

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 08:46:46 AM »
But that's not what it is!

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 10:31:54 AM »
If it isn't a Bizzarrini could be an Iso Grifo?
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 10:34:10 AM »
It's a Bizzarrini.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 10:43:55 AM »
Bizzarrini Lamborghini?

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 10:57:04 AM »
Could be a Vignale Bizzarrini 5300??
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 10:59:41 AM »
No.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2010, 01:15:55 PM »
Hmmmmm.  Is it a variant of the Bizzarrini Europa 1900?  The one that was based on the Opel chassis?

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 01:22:56 PM »
Hmmmmm.  Is it a variant of the Bizzarrini Europa 1900?  The one that was based on the Opel chassis?
No, it's not that.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 08:35:07 AM »
Some characteristics of this cars reveal a relationship with Bizzarini 5300.
I think it's a special 5300, but I really don't know who did this.
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 08:43:15 AM »
Some characteristics of this cars reveal a relationship with Bizzarini 5300.
I think it's a special 5300, but I really don't know who did this.
Yes, it has a relation to the 5300. Bizzarrini only built two different production cars, so, this connection was quite likely...
However it's indeed a special one. And it's the only ever built.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2010, 08:51:02 AM »
I think this car could be a prototipe for a new style of the 5300, which was never built.
Designer could be Giugiaro (Italdesign).
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2010, 08:55:55 AM »
Yes and no.
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2010, 11:02:36 AM »
There was Bizzarrini 5300 Stille Italia Spyder prototype with pop-up headlights, so maybe this is  Bizzarrini 5300 Stille Italia Coupe?

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2010, 12:08:35 PM »
There was Bizzarrini 5300 Stille Italia Spyder prototype with pop-up headlights, so maybe this is  Bizzarrini 5300 Stille Italia Coupe?
As it is not a "Spyder" it can't be the one you've mentioned.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 08:07:25 AM »
Experts finish this off within a minute!

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2010, 10:15:32 AM »
Bizzarini 5300 prototype by Franco Scaglione? (Bertone)

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2010, 11:50:42 AM »
As far as I know Scaglione wasn't involved.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2010, 01:09:25 PM »
I think this car could be a prototipe for a new style of the 5300, which was never built.
Designer could be Giugiaro (Italdesign).
Yes and no.
Bizzarini 5300 prototype by Franco Scaglione? (Bertone)
As far as I know Scaglione wasn't involved.
Bertone prototype?
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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2010, 01:23:03 PM »
My source reveals nothing about an external design studio, so I think it was an in-house design.

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Re: Allemano's № 504
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2010, 04:02:19 PM »
A crazy guess... one of the last unfinished Bizzarrini 5300 completed some years later with a 6-cylinder Fiat 2300 engine?