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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2010, 04:16:45 PM »
...but all that is about the Conrero 2000 Sport #2, the one, IMHO (and according to Curami's book) featured in the puzzle and there is not a word about other coachbuilders or 1600cc engines.

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2010, 04:18:31 PM »
If I'm not mistaken there's nothing really new..


but there's good news: the person I was waiting for has already posted now...
« Last Edit: November 07, 2010, 04:27:33 PM by Allemano »

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2010, 04:20:59 PM »
I must confess that 75America's post is more or less what is written in my book, and there is also a picture of Daniele Emanuele with this car in 1979...

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2010, 05:09:20 PM »
Any news?

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2010, 05:17:19 PM »
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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2010, 05:31:54 PM »
Thank you.

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2011, 03:31:41 PM »
In the book "CONRERO IL MAGO - Storia di un uomo innamorato dei motori", written by Roberto Sgarzi and Emanuele Daniele there is this pic:

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2011, 04:10:18 PM »
looks the same except of the wind shield.

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2011, 01:57:11 AM »
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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2011, 02:22:09 AM »
In Curami's book, 'La Sport e i suoi Artigiani', there are 4 pages about Conrer's sports.
There is a pic of the puzzle's car and Virgilio Conrero: 'Virgilio Conrero next to his Conrero 2000 of 1959. The car never raced at the time'
There is also a long story of the 2 versions of it:
few minutes for sum up...unless you are looking for 'Corna'...
I'll add the pics if possible

The 1st:
In 1953 Conrero made his 1st sport, with an Alfa 1900 Sprint engine, 130cv, chassis by Savonuzzi and body by Ghia.
In 1954 the same car was rebuilt according to a design by Koren and raced the Mille Miglia.
In 1954 was again rebuilt by Michelotti and raced the Sassi-Superga.
In 1955 it raced the Grand Prix des Frontieres as 'Alfa Romeo Speciale' (#36) with a 160cv, 1975cc AR1900SS engine.
In 1956 it entered the Aosta-Gran San Bernardo as 'Conrero 2000' and 173cv.

The 2nd:
In 1959, a similar engine with a desmodronic engine was fitted on the Conrero Sport presented in 1959, based on a Osca Mt4 chassis, designed by Michelotti and built by Canta, but it never race.

The car #2 should be the puzzle car.
There is a 3rd Sport, built in 1959, that is the one in your reply #24...here the story:

I would tend to agree that the puzzle is car #2 but proving it is a different matter.

In my book "Osca - La Rivincita dei Maserati" by Luigi Orsini & Franco Zagari there is no mention of which Osca MT4 chassis the car may have been based on.

The book is extremely detailed on every Osca chassis - types, years, owners, etc. and if it was possible to find the MT4 chassis no. this car was based on it may reveal the origins of the car.
It may have been a damaged chassis or one that had disappeared before 1959 when the puzzle car appeared.

Difficult but not impossible to solve.......

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2011, 03:02:27 AM »
Unfortunatly my source is temporarily down...   :-\

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #61 on: June 18, 2011, 09:52:49 AM »
A near identical picture of the Conrero 2-Liter was published in the Swiss Automobil-Revue, 1960, April 4.
The story mentions other possible engines with 1150 ccm/100 PS and 1600 ccm/150 PS, both based on the Giulietta-engine.

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2011, 01:23:05 PM »
Renato Ghibaudi? (???Linked to Carrozzeria Traiano???)

The 'head rest bulge' is missing, but looks otherwise identical:
« Last Edit: June 20, 2011, 02:49:37 PM by 75america »

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Re: Allemano's № 495
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2011, 07:53:21 AM »
Renato Ghibaudi?
:applause:
That's what my source reveals!

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It's the Conrero Sport conceived in 1960 by Virgilio Conrero. It had a tubular frame and independent front and back wheel suspension with inside Giulietta drum brakes. The engine came from the Giulietta was scaled down to 1150cc and developed 112HP. There was also a 1600cc version with 150HP. The body was designed by Michelotti and built at the Ghibaudi company in Turin.

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« Last Edit: June 23, 2011, 08:08:30 AM by Allemano »