Solved: Wendax 164 - Mercedes-Benz 120 (W 17)

Wendax · May 09, 2011, 02:37:06 AM

Looks as if some known DNA is in there.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

Wendax · May 16, 2011, 02:38:09 AM

No Rookie response so far

DeAutogids · May 16, 2011, 04:09:45 AM

Is it not a Tatra?

whcgt · May 16, 2011, 04:18:52 AM

1931 Mercedes Benz 120H prototype.

Wendax · May 16, 2011, 04:23:14 AM

Congratulation, it is the Mercedes-Benz 120 H (W 17) prototype.

whcgt · May 16, 2011, 04:29:32 AM

I thank you for the point Wendax. May I ask a personal question? How do the other German puzzlers feel about you posting a vast majority of the remaining German puzzle cars? Such as Allemano & Grobmotrix & others & myself(I am 50% German).

Wendax · May 16, 2011, 04:54:47 AM

I can't follow you. The majority of the current German puzzle cars are posted by others. Only 2 of at least 14 German Rookie or Expert puzzle cars were posted by me.

whcgt · May 16, 2011, 04:59:50 AM

Ok. I thought maybe I had seen alot of German cars that you had posted.

Allemano · May 16, 2011, 05:01:18 AM

Quote from: whcgt on May 16, 2011, 04:29:32 AM
I thank you for the point Wendax. May I ask a personal question? How do the other German puzzlers feel about you posting a vast majority of the remaining German puzzle cars? Such as Allemano & Grobmotrix & others & myself(I am 50% German).

Your question isn't easy to reply for Wendax as you're asking about Grobmotorix', my and your feelings. I guess you can answer the latter by yourself.

There are still some German puzzles waiting to be posted by me..

DeAutogids · May 16, 2011, 05:22:59 AM

Cool car. the H denotes rear wheel drive and engine at the back, no?

Wendax · May 16, 2011, 05:30:09 AM

Yes, the H is for Heckmotor (rear engine). I'm not quite sure whether it is correct to call this one 120 H or just 120, as I have read that the H was officially used only at the 170 H to differentiate it from the 170 V with the identical engine up front. So the 120, 130 and 150 should probably come without the H.

Carnut · May 16, 2011, 06:21:14 AM

Yes, in my reply that I couldn't send because our Internet connection was down I was going to say that the car was designed by Hans Nibbel and Max Wagner along principles established by Josef Ganz and his Standard Superior, but who couldn't continue because his religion and ethnicity prohibited it at the time.

This car could be said to be the true forerunner of the VW Beetle?

Wendax · May 16, 2011, 06:28:09 AM

I don't want to join the discussion whether Porsche used ideas of Josef Ganz or not. There was a similar discussion about Porsche and Ledwinka many years ago. The rear engine became en vogue at that time. So you can call it a predecessor even if it wasn't in a direct line.

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Solved: Wendax 164 - Mercedes-Benz 120 (W 17)