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Title: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 16, 2007, 05:54:45 AM
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Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: GTO48 on January 16, 2007, 01:52:54 PM
If it could talk, could it speak German?   :lmao:
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: MG on January 16, 2007, 02:11:33 PM
Jawohl, mein Herr!  To my eye, looks for sure like its based on a MB 500 SL or such like...... ???
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 17, 2007, 02:29:48 AM
Not German, or based on a German car.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: hugo90 on January 22, 2007, 12:46:41 AM
Plastic body on a Nissan Z?  It has Taunus tail lights
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 22, 2007, 04:09:33 AM
Not Nissan-based. You're probably right about the taillights
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: AirCooledRules on February 10, 2007, 01:11:12 AM
no those are 1985-1992 mk2 Golf taillights. which made me think this is German though i have no idea, im guessing it has to be european though. Maybe italian.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 10, 2007, 03:00:33 AM
Welcome, ACR!

Not German or Italian.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: SeaLion on February 10, 2007, 05:40:55 AM
It is british? The steering wheel is on the right side of the car.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 10, 2007, 06:56:53 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Allan L on February 10, 2007, 09:25:47 AM
British Commonwealth?
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: porridgehead on February 10, 2007, 01:14:40 PM
Does the interior look like it was pecked and scratched at by falcons?

Yes, I am serious.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: D-type on February 10, 2007, 03:53:14 PM
They manufactured Golfs in South Africa. And they drive on the left. 
So is it South African? 
A GSM perhaps?
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 11, 2007, 04:25:46 AM
Quote from: Allan L on February 10, 2007, 09:25:47 AM
British Commonwealth?

Yes
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 11, 2007, 04:32:08 AM
Quote from: D-type on February 10, 2007, 03:53:14 PM
They manufactured Golfs in South Africa. And they drive on the left. 
So is it South African? 
A GSM perhaps?

No.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Allan L on February 12, 2007, 04:36:34 AM
Australian?
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 12, 2007, 02:05:42 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Allan L on February 12, 2007, 03:48:49 PM
Ford or Ford-based?
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Tifosi on February 12, 2007, 06:16:53 PM
Griffith?


Dan
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 13, 2007, 04:00:29 AM
Quote
It is british? The steering wheel is on the right side of the car.

Correction - this car was built in the UK, not Australia. I read about it in an article from an Australian club, and made an incorrect assumption.

Back to the Q&A: Not a Griffith; not a Ford. . 
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: wilsongt on February 22, 2007, 04:56:09 AM
Pegasus? Based on a Jag XJ-S, V12.  6 or so kits - and as a co-incidence there's even one on UK Ebay at the moment

Regards
Glenn
Title: Re: Puzzle #181
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 22, 2007, 05:00:21 AM
Deltayn Pegasus it is.  ;D
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: Oldbootneck on July 13, 2007, 07:45:54 PM
The car is a Parradine Pegasus V12, 1990. Launched at Geneva Show with a price tag of £92,000. 19 built at magny Cours f1 circuit in france before French government panicked at start of Gulf War in 1991 and pulled plug on project. I have chassis number 5, road tested at 167 mph (275kph) and 0 -100kph in 5.1 seconds at Magny Cours. I have much information and photos on this car if anybody needs they can contact me on +44 (0)1633 411891 -  are there any more out there?
Terry Houghton
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 14, 2010, 06:08:57 AM
Quote from: Oldbootneck on July 13, 2007, 07:45:54 PM
The car is a Parradine Pegasus V12, 1990. Launched at Geneva Show with a price tag of £92,000. 19 built at magny Cours f1 circuit in france before French government panicked at start of Gulf War in 1991 and pulled plug on project. I have chassis number 5, road tested at 167 mph (275kph) and 0 -100kph in 5.1 seconds at Magny Cours. I have much information and photos on this car if anybody needs they can contact me on +44 (0)1633 411891 -  are there any more out there?
Terry Houghton
This looks to be right:

"Probably the ultimate British classic sports car, chassis number 5 of 19 factory produced cars and as far as is known, the first road car ever with Carbon Fibre/Kevlar composite body - hence the original £92,000 price tag.
In 1990 "The Sunday Times Magazine" wrote about these cars:
"BRITISH BUSINESSMAN JOHN PARRADINE PRESENTED HIS SPORTS CAR AT THE GENEVA MOTOR SHOW THIS SPRING; AND ENCOURAGED BY THE RESPONSE HE EXPECTS TO PUT THE JAGUAR ENGINED 170 MPH MACHINE INTO PRODUCTION BY THE END OF THIS YEAR. PROBLEMS WITH INVESTMENT HAVE LEAD TO THE PROJECT BEING BASED IN FRANCE, AT MAGNY-COURS. THE CAR WILL PROBABLY COST ABOUT £90,000 AND DELIVERIES SHOULD BEGIN IN A YEAR."

Equipped with 6 x Weber 40 DCOE carbs, manual Getrag 5-speed box, lightened and balanced flywheel, crank and clutch assembly, new alloy rad, recent £5,000 recommissioning spend, Italian saddle leather and suede interior (by Callow & Maddox), new MoT, currently SORN'd. Originally road tested at 173mph and sub 5 secs 0 - 60mph. Beautifully balanced chassis with 50/50 weight distribution. Rebuilt Compomotive three-piece wheels with new "W" rated tyres
Generally excellent condition, but needs new carpets and some minor paint scuffs touched in. Full provenance since new, with only three owners and stacks of history and original marketing material, including the above Sunday Times article and road tests. Many other photos and history available for genuinely interested enthusiasts.
Prof. Jim Randall, Head of Engineering for Jaguar and reponsible for the XJ 220 project, having driven this car, got out with a big grin and said "a man of my age shouldn't have this much fun - we should have made it!"
This is a very, very rare car and according to John Parradine, the only one known of the 19 he built on the road in the world, the rest being in private collections. There is only one other known car currently being recommisioned in Australia. This is a great opportunity for an enthusiast of rare marques, or would make a suberb track car. I am currently building a 6.0 litre V12 with ported and gas-flowed heads for this car scheduled to produce 400bhp+ and is available by separate negotiation. This should produce a car capable of approaching 200mph.
This is NOT a kit car.
"
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 14, 2010, 06:31:20 AM
As I undesratnd it, this Deltayn Pegasus, designed in 1989 by Richard Oakes as a "Cobra for the nineties", and based on Jaguar components, evolved into the Parradine Pegasus as production was moved to France. Pegasus was the second Deltayn model line, after the Proteus.

In '89, it was allegedly capable of only 160 MPH, so the extra year did it some good.  ;)
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: DeAutogids.nl on May 14, 2010, 06:37:40 AM
I believe there used to be a different engine in the first one.
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: Djetset on May 14, 2010, 05:21:19 PM
Very good to see the Deltayn puzzle getting a revival.  Although the car usually used a Jaguar V12 engine, one was built  with a 3.5-litre Rover V8 unit as well.

The car should be regarded as British, not French, as it was a UK project, with the first cars being built there, before production moved over to Magny Cours with tax-benefit funding from the French Government.

The Pegasus was based on the design of the rejected Aston Martin V8-replacement by Richard Oakes.  Foolishly Aston Martin chose the less appealing (in my view) Heffernan and Greenley design bid that became the Virage model, rather than the Oakes design you see here.

And finally, today's useless fact; I wrote the text for the sales brochure of the Pegasusr (fame at last!).
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: stevey81 on April 05, 2011, 08:47:15 AM
hi all,
quite an interesting read,
reading this thread i thought I'd give a bit of info,
my father was the MD of the company 88-93 i think,
he was part of a small team, consisting of Chris(dad), frank, Greg ,john parradine being the top,
there may have been others ill find out,
 we left for France on the 16/17Th of June i think in 1990 ,with a man(guide?) named Toni i think,(unsure) in a french plate fiesta my 1st inclination of different things to come,steering wheel on the wrong side
we were all family's apart from Greg,
Chris fanthorpe ,family returned in 95,due to a berevement and and the ill health of my father returned to scunthorpe still here,,
franks spedding, family returned in 93 i believe after the closure they are also around the scunthorpe area still too,
Greg ..., i have not seen since sometime in 95, location unsure,
the company was based at appelby,flixborough rings a bell , maybe home to a worker??,
  then at chevenon when we relocated to France
the company survived until 93 i think, i was about 12 by then so forgive my errors if any,
was never based at the mangy cours circuit,lieger was though , lol different breed of car there!!
it was close to the circuit less than 10 km t think,
specs ,
 when i get round to it i have somewhere the full spec i will post ,
from memory, 5.3 ltr jag v12 , modified  , fueling by 6 doec Weber's, the tested 167mph (fast car?)was achieved in a car with a bent conrod or gear rod, ill ask my father for clarification,but would of achieved 175mph comfortably,
it was a well built well designed car 
the compand failed when funding was pulled , oil an ingredient the gulf war was too, the french government 
and perhaps johns slight lavish lifestyle spent a little of investors money,and contributed a bit too, ;D
 john continued with other things upon his return to the UK, a jet ski i believe in the late 90's, and the in 2000-2002 he went on to build the parrasine 525, my father and brother worked for the company for a while ,i saw the car in many stages and this also was a great design, although this company failed also due to reasons unknown to me at this time, but the car was received well in the 2002 nec? show,
pm me if any further info required ,
Title: Re: Puzzle #181 - Solved! Deltayn Pegasus
Post by: woodinsight on May 09, 2011, 01:44:28 PM
Another view when the car was named Parradine V12