Topic: Out Of Tune

[basman007]

#64. Lotec SL

[Joao Gois]

#88 - Rolls Royce Phantom Genaddi Stretch Limousine (base Rolls-Royce Phantom) Nope!

Well, I'll have to strongly disagree. Although I know the answer you're looking for is Rolls-Royce Phantom Mutec Limousine, the Genaddi Black Tie Edition is equally satisfactory since the car is absolutely identical!
This is the Mutec: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/216867/stretched_rollsroyce_phantom.html
And this is the Genaddi: http://www.supercarnews.net/rolls-royce/picture/rolls-royce-phantom-black-tie-edition-gennadi-13-3323/
They're not actually identical, first of all, and second this isn't the 'looks like this tuner' thread, it's the exact correct tuner that's required. You are, however, correct with Mutec! Well done.

We'll have to discuss about this later, OK? What do you think?

#91 - Jeep Grand Cherokee S-Limited 3.0 CRD This one is more of a sleeper, there's next to no visual cues. Didn't actually realise this until you brought it up though, so I'll leave it up to you whether I should keep this one up or replace it. Sorry!

Probably a good idea IMO...

#32 - Kleeman GT55K (base Mercedes-Benz CL55 AMG) Finaly! It is on their website... from Russia! (although the site's domain is from... USSR!!)

[DHoffmann]

#26 - MS Design 911 Turbo Yes!

#64. Lotec SL Yes!

#88 - Rolls Royce Phantom Genaddi Stretch Limousine (base Rolls-Royce Phantom) Nope!

Well, I'll have to strongly disagree. Although I know the answer you're looking for is Rolls-Royce Phantom Mutec Limousine, the Genaddi Black Tie Edition is equally satisfactory since the car is absolutely identical!
This is the Mutec: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/216867/stretched_rollsroyce_phantom.html
And this is the Genaddi: http://www.supercarnews.net/rolls-royce/picture/rolls-royce-phantom-black-tie-edition-gennadi-13-3323/
They're not actually identical, first of all, and second this isn't the 'looks like this tuner' thread, it's the exact correct tuner that's required. You are, however, correct with Mutec! Well done.

We'll have to discuss about this later, OK? What do you think?
Simply so, there's a dome on the roof of the Genaddi that is not present on the Mutec, that alone means they're not the same cars in my books.

#32 - Kleeman GT55K (base Mercedes-Benz CL55 AMG) Finaly! It is on their website... from Russia! (although the site's domain is from... USSR!!) Yes! Sometimes these cars hide in tricky places. 

EDIT: 91 has been replaced.

[Joao Gois]

Simply so, there's a dome on the roof of the Genaddi that is not present on the Mutec, that alone means they're not the same cars in my books.

Hmmm... indeed... Nevertheless, I just find them too similar to be separated, unrelated ventures... but then again, there's not much to invent when stretching a Liomousine...

EDIT: 91 has been replaced.

And identified:
#91 - Delta 4x4 Dune Jeep Grand Cherokee

[basman007]

#53 - Babiez S57
#54 - Patritti F1 Status
#68 - Lorinser 560 SEC
#73 - Racing Dynamics K55
#81 - DP Motorsport K3
#87 - Albert 996 GT3
#93 - Carlsson ML

[@re]

Is #73 a Dinan 850?

[Ray B.]

You're all speaking chinese to me.

[Paul Jaray]

#51 - Eriksson Camaro Z28

[Arunas]

Got it!

#5 - 2001 Caravaggio Corvette Z06 Le Mans Targa 

[Joao Gois]

#49 - Fabulous Land Cruiser (base Toyota Land Cruiser UZJ100W)
#61 - Lingerfelter Corvette
#68 - SGS 560SEC

[Allan L]

Funny how terms develop.
Tuning used to be what people did to engines (and other mechanical parts) to improve performance and in the main they would be careful that there was no outward sign of their work (except sometimes for a discreet badge).
Based on the examples in this thread, dramatically changing the outward appearance is what tuners do now, so I ask you younger people to tell me if there is also any performance enhancement or is it all show and no action?
This is a Speedwell A35 and, apart from the racing numbers and stick-on front numberplate, would you know?



PS I think that Riley Pathfinder behind it is one I once owned!

[basman007]

Funny how terms develop.
Tuning used to be what people did to engines (and other mechanical parts) to improve performance and in the main they would be careful that there was no outward sign of their work (except sometimes for a discreet badge).
Based on the examples in this thread, dramatically changing the outward appearance is what tuners do now, so I ask you younger people to tell me if there is also any performance enhancement or is it all show and no action?
This is a Speedwell A35 and, apart from the racing numbers and stick-on front numberplate, would you know?



PS I think that Riley Pathfinder behind it is one I once owned!

Koenig for instance got their knowledge from racing and they applied that on their cars. I'm mentioning Koenig, because they also had VERY visual mods as well. Besides Koenig I think most of this list has been performance tuned, some of them to a very high specification. And not all tuners aimed for really powerfull cars (1000HP Ferrari's are extreme examples), some went for luxerious cars or save cars (armoured to the highest specification). And I'm not talking about the tacky american strechtes, but cars that were enlarged in length, width and height, MPW style. Some made convertibles or coupe's while the factory was not offering these models. Tuning is modifying, not only for racing.

[Joao Gois]

And I'm not talking about the tacky american strechtes, but cars that were enlarged in length, width and height, MPW style. Some made convertibles or coupe's while the factory was not offering these models. Tuning is modifying, not only for racing.

Well, in my book, tuning is not preparing for racing or making bodystiles different  from the offered by the factory. Tuning is modifying (and usually with bad taste) road models, either mechanically and/or visually, to make them faster/uglier/both for road use. On the other hand, preparing for race is race-spec'ing and the latter is coachbuilding or conversion. I would never consider a 456GT Venice Station or a R8 LMS as tuning...

[basman007]

And I'm not talking about the tacky american strechtes, but cars that were enlarged in length, width and height, MPW style. Some made convertibles or coupe's while the factory was not offering these models. Tuning is modifying, not only for racing.

Well, in my book, tuning is not preparing for racing or making bodystiles different  from the offered by the factory. Tuning is modifying (and usually with bad taste) road models, either mechanically and/or visually, to make them faster/uglier/both for road use. On the other hand, preparing for race is race-spec'ing and the latter is coachbuilding or conversion. I would never consider a 456GT Venice Station or a R8 LMS as tuning...

True, I've thought about this before, but I find it difficult to label some companies as coachbuilder or tuner... So I call them both.. :p

[Joao Gois]

True. I have a tendency to standardize everything so I can make some sense of everything. But in the automobile world, sometimes it's just too dificult to split waters... 

[DHoffmann]

EDIT: 91 has been replaced.

And identified:
#91 - Delta 4x4 Dune Jeep Grand Cherokee Yes! You know, you could've let me think I'd found a hard replacement for a short while at least. 

#53 - Babiez S57 Yes!!!
#54 - Patritti F1 Status Yes!
#68 - Lorinser 560 SEC Yes!
#73 - Racing Dynamics K55 Yes!!
#81 - DP Motorsport K3 Yes!
#87 - Albert 996 GT3 Yes!
#93 - Carlsson ML Yes!

A great - difficult - haul!

Is #73 a Dinan 850? Nope, correctly identified by Basman above

#51 - Eriksson Camaro Z28 Yes!

Got it!

#5 - 2001 Caravaggio Corvette Z06 Le Mans Targa  You did indeed get it, well done!

#49 - Fabulous Land Cruiser (base Toyota Land Cruiser UZJ100W) Yes! Probably the most comical tuning job I've seen
#61 - Lingerfelter Corvette Indeed it is
#68 - SGS 560SEC Nope, and correctly guessed by Sebas above you.

All that's left are #17, #30 and #98! Who's up to guessing these? The points tally is as follows:

Jotage21 - 8
ImpishGrin - 15
JeffJue - 4
Arunas - 3
Joao Gois - 22
basman007 - 23
Allemano - 4
@re - 13
Ehhxekt - 4
Paul Jaray - 1

Who will win the battle between Joao and basman? Will ImpishGrin ease out @re by just two points!? Stay tuned, same time, same channel!

[Ultra]

[basman007]

98 - Folger F1R

[Bezor]

A bit OT, but since it is somewhat related the replies:

The Q-Ship.  A stock looking car, that performs way above it's modest stock based exterior.

For example:
A Dinan 325 S2
A Audi A3 APR
A Fly'n Miata

My first attempt at the above; a stock exterior '71 V.W. Bug with 1835cc.  It would smoke our 356SC Porsche.

[DHoffmann]

After basman007's correct guess of Folger, only 17 and 30 remain..

17 I can understand, as it's actually an American tuner, but 30 I am very surprised by as it's one of the best known tuners...

[DHoffmann]

After basman007's correct guess of Folger, only 17 and 30 remain..

17 I can understand, as it's actually an American tuner, but 30 I am very surprised by as it's one of the best known tuners...

At this stage I'm dumbfounded that #30 has not fallen yet... Such a well known tuner and yet it's still standing... The brand of the car is a massive giveaway and looking at some of the other tuners that have been guessed, this one should have been an absolute doozy.

#17 is a fairly outrageous tuner, not greatly known but nonetheless has 20 years of experience. Provides both full tunes and smaller kits from it's single American store.

Only #17 and #30 left, once those are gone I can hand out the 100 well deserved points!

[DHoffmann]

Only 2 cars left to guess before I can hand out this gigantic haul of 100 points to their respective guessers...

#17  - I found this tuner originally in a 2000ish copy of DuPont Registry. Does this help? If not, ask questions that may help!

#30... Come on! Need I give any more hints? VERY well known tuner, with the brand that they're best known for...

[basman007]

Hi there, long time no see

Let me fire off a guess for the Z3. Could it be AC Schnitzer? Those round lights can't be found anywhere 

[pnegyesi]

or Racing Dynamics?

[DHoffmann]

Hi there, long time no see

Let me fire off a guess for the Z3. Could it be AC Schnitzer? Those round lights can't be found anywhere 

Yes!!!!

Held for 12 hours for you, to find the correct model name.