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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2008, 10:29:28 PM »
#9 - Jehle Countach (base Lamborghini Countach) Nope!
#14 - DP Motorsports DP962 (base Porsche 962) Already correctly guessed
#15 - Katech Performance Street Attack Corvette C6 Z06 (base Chevrolet Corvette Z06) Yes!
#26 - Ruf 911 3.4 (base Porsche 911) Nope!
#32 - Kleeman CL60 (base Mercedes-Benz CL600) Close but keep guessing
#40 - Evolve S30 (base Volvo S30) Yes!
#41 - Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Nismo 400R Yes!
#45 - H&S 911 Turbo Mission 400 Plus (base Porsche 911 Turbo) Need tuner name


#11 VW Corrado Magnum built by MAG 1989 Yes!
#19 BMW 733i Alpina B8 Yes!
#28 Styling Garage 500 SGS Yes!
#97 Styling Garage Mercedes 500 SEL (?) The tuner definetely is Styling Garage (GER) A solid Nope!, not Styling Garage

The (daily ?) updatings of the results will be a lot of fun..

#14 - Ada Motorsport 962 Already correctly identified!

#66 Mugen NSX Yes!

#82 - ASI Bentley Continental Tetsu GTR Yes!

#98 - Almeras Porsche 911 Nope!


Right, in IE I'm able to see the last 5 cars :) Therefore I can add that

#99 is Strosek porsche 928 S Yes!

#78 Zender Golf Sedan Yes!

#97 ABC Exclusiv Mercedes-Benz SEL Nope!

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2008, 04:12:04 AM »
#45 - Porsche 911 Turbo Mission 400 plus by Jurgen Alzen Motorsport (why not a longer name? :P )
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2008, 06:50:20 AM »
Hmm... I wonder what's the deal with #11. I've always known this car as the Corrado Magnum by Design & Technik. And that's what also said for example here: http://home.conceptsfa.nl/~tmandos/corrado/engels.htm#Corrado%20magnum%20combi
and here: http://www.vw-club.co.yu/forum/index.php?topic=1777.0
and also in my 1990/1991 AutoKatalog which I could scan but I can't be bothered to at the moment ;)

I've never seen it branded as a MAG however?
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2008, 06:56:35 AM »
The Corrado Magnum is stated on different web pages. Even Styling Garage (again!) claims the auhorship for this car.
I've found the very same pic of #11 named MAG Corrado. On those occasions I normally don't ask for verification...
« Last Edit: November 22, 2008, 07:04:54 AM by Allemano »

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2008, 07:09:33 AM »
Hmm... I wonder what's the deal with #11. I've always known this car as the Corrado Magnum by Design & Technik. And that's what also said for example here: http://home.conceptsfa.nl/~tmandos/corrado/engels.htm#Corrado%20magnum%20combi
and here: http://www.vw-club.co.yu/forum/index.php?topic=1777.0
and also in my 1990/1991 AutoKatalog which I could scan but I can't be bothered to at the moment ;)

I've never seen it branded as a MAG however?
Check your second link again, there's a black and white full page ad with the firm MAG at the bottom.  ;)

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2008, 07:37:55 AM »
If you read the ad, it's only about the two prototypes being for sale. It doesn't state that the company that sells them is the one that made them :P

As for Styling Garage, it';s not that far from truth. Design & Technik was established by Christian Hahn after his previous company - Styling Garage (SGS) went bust :)

Edit: I actually got bothered and scanned the relevant page from my AutoKatalog. here you go.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2008, 07:50:36 AM by ImpishGrin »
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2008, 08:21:18 AM »
The way I see it someone saw the flier advertising the car for sale, read the 'firma: MAG' at the bottom - there's no mention whatsoever of Design & Technik - and then posted images using that new name elsewhere where I found them. The source I got these images from is one I generally can trust, but as we all know the internet has been known to be wrong on occasion.  ;D

What I'll do is give Allemano 1 point for correctly identifying the incorrect car, and you 1 point for incorrectly identifying the correct car. How's that sound?

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2008, 08:32:28 AM »
#47 - Porsche TechArt 911 CT3

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2008, 09:54:32 AM »
What I'll do is give Allemano 1 point for correctly identifying the incorrect car, and you 1 point for incorrectly identifying the correct car. How's that sound?

Sounds good to me ;)
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2008, 12:18:30 PM »
#8 - Seat Ibiza JE Design (base 5-door Seat Ibiza)
#9 - Lamborghini Countach Koenig Specials (base Lamborghini Countach)
#12 - Saleen Ford Focus S121 N2O (base For Focus)
#18 - Volkswagen Polo GTI by B&B (base VW Polo GTI)
#23 - Suzuki Swift 'Vega' by Carzone Specials (base Suzuki Swift)
#32 - Kleeman CL215 (base Mercedes-Benz CL600)
#36 - Kicherer Audi R8 (base Audi R8)
#38 - ASMA Gladiator II (base Mercedes-Benz ML)
#37 - EDO Competition Volkswagen Touareg Tuning (base VW Touareg V10 TDi)
#43 - Lamborghini Diablo by Racetec (base Lamborghini Diablo SV)
#45 - Jurgen Alzen Motorsport Mission 400 Plus (base Porsche 911 Turbo)
#60 - Seat Leon ABT (base Seat Leon)     
#62 - Fiat 500 Hamann Sportivo (base Fiat 500)   
#64 - Kicherer SL K 60 Evo Black (base Mercedes-Benz  SL600)
#69 - Audi R8 PPI Razor (base Audi R8)
#83 - Lamborghini Gallardo by Premier4509 (base Lamborghini Gallardo)
#88 - Rolls Royce Phantom Genaddi Stretch Limousine (base Rolls-Royce Phantom)
#91 - Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
#96 - Arden X-Type 3.0 V6 (base Jaguar X-Type 3.0 Sport)
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2008, 10:01:02 AM »
#09 - Max Bobnar Turbo Countach
#13 - Fab Design Widebody
#19 - Alpina B10
#21 - G-Power G6
#22 - Lorenz & Rankl 500SEL Convertible
#27 - 560 SEC AMG by Hakan Sahl
#45 - Jurgen Alzen Motorsport 911 Turbo
#46 - Schulz Typ 123
#48 - Murcielago Roadster by Miura Corse
#57 - 500SGS Gullwing
#63 - Lorenz & Rankl 512 BB Spyder
#73 - Koenig 8-series
#80 - SL74 by Renntech
#86 - 500SEC Widebody by Gemballa
#89 - 560 SEC by Koenig
#90 - 560 SEC by Wald
#97 - Kugok 1000SEL
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2008, 08:32:17 PM »
This puzzle is so big that I just can't sit down and check which cars are already guessed and not.

Edit: If #74 hasn't already been guessed I'd think it's the Sbarro VW Golf 300 S, with a Porsche 928 engine.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2008, 09:06:48 PM by @re »
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #37 on: November 24, 2008, 09:29:12 PM »
#45 - Porsche 911 Turbo Mission 400 plus by Jurgen Alzen Motorsport (why not a longer name? :P ) Yes!

#47 - Porsche TechArt 911 CT3 Yes!

#8 - Seat Ibiza JE Design (base 5-door Seat Ibiza) Yes!
#9 - Lamborghini Countach Koenig Specials (base Lamborghini Countach) Nope!
#12 - Saleen Ford Focus S121 N2O (base For Focus) Yes!
#18 - Volkswagen Polo GTI by B&B (base VW Polo GTI) Yes!
#23 - Suzuki Swift 'Vega' by Carzone Specials (base Suzuki Swift) Yes!
#32 - Kleeman CL215 (base Mercedes-Benz CL600) Close but Nope!
#36 - Kicherer Audi R8 (base Audi R8) Yes!
#38 - ASMA Gladiator II (base Mercedes-Benz ML) Yes!
#37 - EDO Competition Volkswagen Touareg Tuning (base VW Touareg V10 TDi) Yes!
#43 - Lamborghini Diablo by Racetec (base Lamborghini Diablo SV) Yes!
#45 - Jurgen Alzen Motorsport Mission 400 Plus (base Porsche 911 Turbo) Guessed before you
#60 - Seat Leon ABT (base Seat Leon) Yes!
#62 - Fiat 500 Hamann Sportivo (base Fiat 500) Yes! 
#64 - Kicherer SL K 60 Evo Black (base Mercedes-Benz  SL600) Nope!
#69 - Audi R8 PPI Razor (base Audi R8) Yes!
#83 - Lamborghini Gallardo by Premier4509 (base Lamborghini Gallardo) Yes!
#88 - Rolls Royce Phantom Genaddi Stretch Limousine (base Rolls-Royce Phantom) Nope!
#91 - Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 Close, but this one's a bit more of a sleeper
#96 - Arden X-Type 3.0 V6 (base Jaguar X-Type 3.0 Sport) Yes!

#09 - Max Bobnar Turbo Countach Yes!
#13 - Fab Design Widebody Yes!
#19 - Alpina B10 Nope!
#21 - G-Power G6 Yes!
#22 - Lorenz & Rankl 500SEL Convertible Yes
#27 - 560 SEC AMG by Hakan Sahl Yes!
#45 - Jurgen Alzen Motorsport 911 Turbo Already guessed
#46 - Schulz Typ 123 Yes!
#48 - Murcielago Roadster by Miura Corse Yes!
#57 - 500SGS Gullwing Nope!
#63 - Lorenz & Rankl 512 BB Spyder More research has shown that this is a Lorenz & Rankl, will substitute image with new tuner.
#73 - Koenig 8-series Has been proven to be Koenig, will exchange image with new tuner.
#80 - SL74 by Renntech Yes!
#86 - 500SEC Widebody by Gemballa  Yes!
#89 - 560 SEC by Koenig Nope!
#90 - 560 SEC by Wald Yes!
#97 - Kugok 1000SEL Yes!

This puzzle is so big that I just can't sit down and check which cars are already guessed and not.

Edit: If #74 hasn't already been guessed I'd think it's the Sbarro VW Golf 300 S, with a Porsche 928 engine. Yes!
Hopefully this sorts it out.

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2008, 11:34:57 PM »
Anyone mentioned #6 - Skunk Werkes Speedster? (If this answer is good)

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2008, 11:37:48 PM »
Anyone mentioned #6 - Skunk Werkes Speedster? (If this answer is good) Yes it is!

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2008, 11:38:52 PM »
#10 Rinspeed Indy 4S

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2008, 03:56:55 AM »
1     Callaway Corvette
40   heico Volvo C30
15   Ron Fellows Corvette Z06
17   Geballa Porsche 993
26   D-P Porsche 935
29   Reiger A3
31    Scarab Nissan Z
47    Ruf porsche
65    Dahlback A3
84    Ginetta Miata based
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2008, 04:06:26 AM »
The way I see it someone saw the flier advertising the car for sale, read the 'firma: MAG' at the bottom - there's no mention whatsoever of Design & Technik - and then posted images using that new name elsewhere where I found them. The source I got these images from is one I generally can trust, but as we all know the internet has been known to be wrong on occasion.  ;D

What I'll do is give Allemano 1 point for correctly identifying the incorrect car, and you 1 point for incorrectly identifying the correct car. How's that sound?

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2008, 08:45:08 AM »
#88 - Rolls Royce Phantom Genaddi Stretch Limousine (base Rolls-Royce Phantom) Nope!

Well, I'll have to strongly disagree. Although I know the answer you're looking for is Rolls-Royce Phantom Mutec Limousine, the Genaddi Black Tie Edition is equally satisfactory since the car is absolutely identical!
This is the Mutec: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/216867/stretched_rollsroyce_phantom.html
And this is the Genaddi: http://www.supercarnews.net/rolls-royce/picture/rolls-royce-phantom-black-tie-edition-gennadi-13-3323/

#32 - Kleeman CL CL215 (base Mercedes-Benz CL600) - it has to be. I find no other Kleeman CL-based modification. And this fits perfectly. http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/thecars/cl215
You can call it CL 65 too but it's quite the same car.
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#73 - Koenig Specials BMW 850 (base BMW 850i)
#84 - Pit Crew Racing Miata (base Mazda MX-5 / Miata)
#87 - Jurgen Alzen Motorsport 911 GT2RS (base Porsche 911 GT2)
#91 - Jeep Grand Cherokee S-Limited 3.0 CRD
#93 - Brabus ML 5.8 (base Mercedes-Benz ML430)
#100 - Ford F-150 FX-2 Sport
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2008, 03:46:07 PM »
#89. ABC Exlusive W126  :P

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2008, 06:53:31 PM »
#24 Irmscher Astra Turbo Coupé
#25 Steinmetz Astra CTS
#29 Vogtland Audi A3 Sportback
#35 Roock Porsche RST 650
#42 Hornstein-Rieger Scirocco convertible
#44 Hartge M3-240
#58 is a Nissan 300ZX with a kit called Techno-Z, probably made by Stillen. The exact car is tuned, engine-wise, by MVP Motorsports.
#64 Project Kahn KSLR
#65 Sportec Audi S3
#72 Novitec Punto GT
#77 ART Viano Sportsvan
#81 Kremer K3?
#95 Lumma BMW 1 Series
#100 Roush F-150?
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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2008, 08:35:34 AM »

#57 - 500SGS Gullwing Nope!



It is. You're probably looking for the name scar, as this photo also appears in their brochure. Scar sold, amongst others, SGS's and Gemballa's as if they were their own. For their brochure they used images that were made by the original tuners, in this case SGS. If you browse through the brochure you can also find photo's of SGS convertible's and stretch limousines, as well as another Gullwing.
 In fact the location where that pic has been taken was used by SGS before for another photoshoot with a white Gullwing. Besides this I've also been talking with the owner of an SGS Gullwing widebody. His car has exactly the same bodykit and features as the black one in your photo. And according to the VIN it is a Styling Garage Special. He also said "Scar "stole" the image from SGS to use in their brochure after SGS had gone bankrupt".

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2008, 08:49:20 AM »
#63 - 512BB Targa by Straman

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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2008, 09:08:07 AM »
#63 and number #73 have been replaced due to duplicate tuners, now replaced with individuals.


#10 Rinspeed Indy 4S Yes!

1     Callaway Corvette Nope!
40   heico Volvo C30 Nope!
15   Ron Fellows Corvette Z06 Nope!
17   Geballa Porsche 993 Nope!
26   D-P Porsche 935 Nope!
29   Reiger A3 Nope!
31    Scarab Nissan Z Nope!
47    Ruf porsche Nope!
65    Dahlback A3 Nope!
84    Ginetta Miata based Nope!


#88 - Rolls Royce Phantom Genaddi Stretch Limousine (base Rolls-Royce Phantom) Nope!

Well, I'll have to strongly disagree. Although I know the answer you're looking for is Rolls-Royce Phantom Mutec Limousine, the Genaddi Black Tie Edition is equally satisfactory since the car is absolutely identical!
This is the Mutec: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/216867/stretched_rollsroyce_phantom.html
And this is the Genaddi: http://www.supercarnews.net/rolls-royce/picture/rolls-royce-phantom-black-tie-edition-gennadi-13-3323/
They're not actually identical, first of all, and second this isn't the 'looks like this tuner' thread, it's the exact correct tuner that's required. You are, however, correct with Mutec! Well done.

#32 - Kleeman CL CL215 (base Mercedes-Benz CL600) - it has to be. I find no other Kleeman CL-based modification. And this fits perfectly. http://www.kleemann.dk/site/Main/thecars/cl215
You can call it CL 65 too but it's quite the same car. Sorry, but you have the correct tuner but not correct car. I can guarantee you that there is another car, just not available for viewing on their website. The rear of the car I posted contains the correct answer, which you have not yet provided. Keep looking though!
#67 - SMS Twenty Fifth Anniversary Mustang Concept (base Ford Mustang Shelby GT500) Yes!
#73 - Koenig Specials BMW 850 (base BMW 850i) Replaced
#84 - Pit Crew Racing Miata (base Mazda MX-5 / Miata) Yes!
#87 - Jurgen Alzen Motorsport 911 GT2RS (base Porsche 911 GT2) Nope!
#91 - Jeep Grand Cherokee S-Limited 3.0 CRD This one is more of a sleeper, there's next to no visual cues. Didn't actually realise this until you brought it up though, so I'll leave it up to you whether I should keep this one up or replace it. Sorry!
#93 - Brabus ML 5.8 (base Mercedes-Benz ML430) Nope!
#100 - Ford F-150 FX-2 Sport Nope!

#89. ABC Exlusive W126  :P Yes!

#24 Irmscher Astra Turbo Coupé Yes!
#25 Steinmetz Astra CTS Yes!
#29 Vogtland Audi A3 Sportback Yes!
#35 Roock Porsche RST 650 Yes!
#42 Hornstein-Rieger Scirocco convertible Yes!!
#44 Hartge M3-240 Yes!
#58 is a Nissan 300ZX with a kit called Techno-Z, probably made by Stillen. The exact car is tuned, engine-wise, by MVP Motorsports. Whoa, was just after Stillen, Yes! to that, but I'm sure you're right about the engine too.  ;D
#64 Project Kahn KSLR Nope!
#65 Sportec Audi S3 Yes!
#72 Novitec Punto GT Yes!
#77 ART Viano Sportsvan Yes!
#81 Kremer K3? Nope!
#95 Lumma BMW 1 Series Yes!
#100 Roush F-150? Yes!


#57 - 500SGS Gullwing Nope!



It is. You're probably looking for the name scar, as this photo also appears in their brochure. Scar sold, amongst others, SGS's and Gemballa's as if they were their own. For their brochure they used images that were made by the original tuners, in this case SGS. If you browse through the brochure you can also find photo's of SGS convertible's and stretch limousines, as well as another Gullwing.
 In fact the location where that pic has been taken was used by SGS before for another photoshoot with a white Gullwing. Besides this I've also been talking with the owner of an SGS Gullwing widebody. His car has exactly the same bodykit and features as the black one in your photo. And according to the VIN it is a Styling Garage Special. He also said "Scar "stole" the image from SGS to use in their brochure after SGS had gone bankrupt".

Err... Scar is what I was looking for... My bad on the mix-up there, but I'll give you a point for Scar...

#63 - 512BB Targa by Straman Yes! That was quick!





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Re: Out Of Tune
« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2008, 09:31:19 AM »
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