Author Topic: Neverending Chain, now closed! (Read 93992 times)

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #650 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:27:54 AM »

Ferrari 250 LM and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans

Each was named for a race venue where it would not compete.

metalshapes · « **Reply #651 on:** December 17, 2009, 04:46:25 AM »

Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto.

Both used a version of a "Rope Drive " , or " Rope Shaft "

The Tempest had a driveshaft that was forced into a curve to give more interior space, the Pinto had a flexible end on its steeringshaft also forced into a curve to take up the difference in angles.

metalshapes · « **Reply #652 on:** December 17, 2009, 05:07:48 AM »

I dont know if you can reply to your own post, if not, please delete...

1971 Ford Pinto and 1974 Chevrolet Truck.

Both were invloved in lawsuits because of Gastank Explosions that were blamed on Gastank placement.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #653 on:** December 17, 2009, 06:59:33 AM »

Quote from: metalshapes on December 17, 2009, 04:46:25 AM

Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto.
Both used a version of a "Rope Drive " , or " Rope Shaft "
The Tempest had a driveshaft that was forced into a curve to give more interior space, the Pinto had a flexible end on its steeringshaft also forced into a curve to take up the difference in angles.

We already had this: "both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism"

Quote from: metalshapes on December 17, 2009, 05:07:48 AM

I dont know if you can reply to your own post, if not, please delete...
1971 Ford Pinto and 1974 Chevrolet Truck.
Both were invloved in lawsuits because of Gastank Explosions that were blamed on Gastank placement.

It's not possible, otherwise you'll be able to lead this chain to a car you know will be very hard to connect.

Ferrari 250 LM: Didn't this car win the 1965 Le Mans with Rindt-Gregory?

Allan L · « **Reply #654 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:04:44 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2009, 06:59:33 AM

Quote from: metalshapes on December 17, 2009, 04:46:25 AM
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto.
Both used a version of a "Rope Drive " , or " Rope Shaft "
The Tempest had a driveshaft that was forced into a curve to give more interior space, the Pinto had a flexible end on its steeringshaft also forced into a curve to take up the difference in angles.

We already had this: "both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism"

One was the transmission shaft (not the steering) and the other was the steering column, so I'd say it's o.k.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #655 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:16:24 AM »

...but the Ferrari 250 LM did compete Le Mans in 1965, so we have to get back to:

Jaguar E type and the Ferrari 250 LM Both factories tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #656 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:29:57 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 17, 2009, 06:59:33 AM

Ferrari 250 LM: Didn't this car win the 1965 Le Mans with Rindt-Gregory?

Not the 1963 example that was denied entry by the FIA.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #657 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:46:43 PM »

(that is why I suggested to post also the year from the beginning...

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Ferrari 250 LM 1963 and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #658 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:47:51 PM »

Sorry.

Thank you for the pardon, kind sir.

metalshapes · « **Reply #659 on:** December 17, 2009, 01:48:59 PM »

So is the '71 Pinto back in?

The Rope Shaft is basically a heavy duty version of a Speedometer cable.

So between the Tempest and the Pinto the Main Driveshaft of one is similar to the Steering of the other.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #660 on:** December 17, 2009, 02:45:06 PM »

Ferrari 250 LM 1963 and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft " (Thanks Allan, sometimes I read too fast...)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #661 on:** December 20, 2009, 05:23:57 PM »

Hurry up, or this will be the last one!
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
Ford Pinto 1971 and what car? why?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #662 on:** December 21, 2009, 02:53:37 AM »

1971 Ford Pinto and the 1961 Lincoln Continental, which are both remotely connected to the Dodge Charger

Both were penned by designers (Robert Eidschun and Elwood Engel, respectively) who would go on to work on versions of the Dodge Charger after leaving Ford to work at Chrysler.

metalshapes · « **Reply #663 on:** December 21, 2009, 05:54:35 AM »

'61 Lincoln Continental and 1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer.

In both of them a political figure was assassinated ( JFK and Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria )

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #664 on:** December 21, 2009, 07:29:25 AM »

These are connections!
1971 Ford Pinto and the 1961 Lincoln Continental Both were penned by designers (Robert Eidschun and Elwood Engel, respectively) who would go on to work on versions of the Dodge Charger after leaving Ford to work at Chrysler.
'61 Lincoln Continental and 1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer In both of them a political figure was assassinated ( JFK and Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria )
1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer and what car? why?
(this won't be easy....)

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #665 on:** December 21, 2009, 08:11:45 AM »

1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer and a 1901 Celeritas Rennwagen.

Both vehicles were able to reach production though a cash infusion from financier Wilhelm (Willy) Stift.

pnegyesi · « **Reply #666 on:** December 21, 2009, 08:11:45 AM »

1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria - one such car is now shown at the Artstetten castle, which is now a Habsburg museum.
And I'd vote for a Jhle Dixi which I found at Hotel Westin in Frankfurt.

The connection: both cars are shown at a place which is not a car museum or a technical museum, but there are some cars (at Artstetten there are two Graf-Stift automobiles, while at the Hotel Westin you can see a dozen classic cars)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #667 on:** December 21, 2009, 10:02:45 AM »

@pnegyesi, your was reply #666...and lt arrived the same second than Otto's...I don't know why Otto's came first, but I have no ohter way to choose between them!

Allemano · « **Reply #668 on:** December 21, 2009, 10:09:59 AM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 21, 2009, 10:02:45 AM

@pnegyesi, your was reply #666...and lt arrived the same second than Otto's...I don't know why Otto's came first, but I have no ohter way to choose between them!

the end is near!

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #669 on:** December 21, 2009, 10:31:13 AM »

Today is the 21st of december....

pnegyesi · « **Reply #670 on:** December 21, 2009, 10:38:11 AM »

It is up to you to choose. The system did not told me there's another answer on the way...

metalshapes · « **Reply #671 on:** December 21, 2009, 12:38:31 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 21, 2009, 10:02:45 AM

@pnegyesi, your was reply #666...and lt arrived the same second than Otto's...I don't know why Otto's came first, but I have no ohter way to choose between them!

So Otto's reply is the link?

If so, here is my answer...

1901 Celeritas Rennwagen and 1968 DAF formula 3

Both were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #672 on:** December 21, 2009, 01:05:15 PM »

Quote from: pnegyesi on December 21, 2009, 10:38:11 AM

It is up to you to choose. The system did not told me there's another answer on the way...

I think your answers were both valid and they arrived in the very same moment.
I can only say that Otto's reply appeared first (don't know why) and that's the only reason why I choose that.

1901 Celeritas Rennwagen and 1968 DAF formula 3 Both were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses

Allan L · « **Reply #673 on:** December 21, 2009, 01:21:13 PM »

1968 DAF Formula 3 and 1966 Chaparral 2E: unusually for racing cars both used automatic transmissions.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #674 on:** December 21, 2009, 01:26:21 PM »

Another good one!

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