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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #325 on: March 29, 2009, 01:07:26 PM »
Alright!
1983 Nissan Sentra and 2003 Chery Eastar.  Both have the same code name (B11)

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #326 on: March 29, 2009, 01:09:09 PM »
See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.

-Both cars have the same: builder,
                          engineer,
                          designer,
                          factory building,
                          builder's name,
                          model's name,
                          code name
                          country,
                          city of construction,
                          year,
                          engine,
                          engine layout,
                          seating layout,
                          wheels\disc brakes
                          position of the engine
                          source of energy,
                          number of CV,
                          traction,
                          body style elements,
                          mileage radius,
                          Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system

-Both cars:               are one-off,
                          are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
                          are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
                          are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
                          are woodies
                          have one exceptional technical spec,
                          have a badge featuring twice the same letter
                          have similarities in the steering mechanism
                          have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
                          have equivalents in other countries
                          have a name referring to different manufacturers
                          have a coachbuilt version of the same design
                          have a fibreglass body
                          have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
                          have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
                          have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
                          have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
                          have a type code shared with a thing\object
                          were the first cars produced by their makers
                          were sold in a later period under a different brand name
                          were the basis for racing cars
                          were in the same list
                          were designed by designers who started on airships
                          are the high-output version of a standard model
                          star in a film, 
                          had later revival projects,
                          are named after daughters of the cars distributors
                          are named after the same object\thing,
                          are named after meteorological events
                          are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
                          are named after geographic places
                          both cars are named after political offices
                          derived from different cars,
                          derived from the same car,
                          derived from a prototype made for another company
                          won the same race,
                          are in the same collection\museum\event
                          their engineers worked for the same company\model
                          are missing of a part
                          Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
                          are the product of three countries
                          first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
                          existed because of visionaries born in the same year

-One car:                 its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
                          is a styling mockup that became the other car
                          its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
                          its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
                          its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
                          inspired the other

-Both manufacturers:      are/were part of the same company
                          produced the same non-automotive object
                          made an unorthodox vehicle
                          had a specific coachwork for a country
                          later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
                          started car production with cars built under license from another company
                          Their last model derives from the same car

-One manufacturer:        worked for the other
                          had a relative working for the other
                          was a pilot in the other car
                          built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
                          built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other

-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
                          the name of a special version of the other
                          the circuit where it raced,
                          the part introduced first time,
                          the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
                          the same name in a different language,
                          the name of the city founded,
                          the number of cars produced,
                          the number of one dimension of the other,
                          the name of the engine

-The same:                man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
                          man was director of the first and founded the second company
                          man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #327 on: March 31, 2009, 04:26:16 AM »
Chery's B11 platform cars, and the Citroen Bx. Each type code is shared  with a B vitamin.

Vitamin B11: Pteryl-hepta-glutamic acid

Vitamin Bx: PABA (para-Aminobenzoic acid)

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #328 on: March 31, 2009, 04:00:13 PM »
Citroën BX and 1998 Daewoo Matiz.

Both cars have strong design resemblances with a prototype which was made for another company (and was rejected by them).  (Citroën BX => 1979 Volvo Tundra, Daewoo Matiz =>  1993 Fiat Cinquecento Lucciola)
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #329 on: April 01, 2009, 04:36:11 AM »
Chery Eastar B11 2003  and   Citroen Bx  19--   both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19--   and  Daewoo Matiz 1998          both cars derived from a prototype made for another company

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #330 on: April 05, 2009, 11:01:11 AM »
few days and 75america can post another link if He wants.
Does anybody want to continue it?

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #331 on: April 06, 2009, 07:34:48 AM »
few days and 75america can post another link if He wants.
Does anybody want to continue it?
Quite willing but as I know nothing of a Daewoo Matiz, I can't see a way to do so!
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #332 on: April 06, 2009, 02:37:54 PM »
There are few easy connections still available...

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #333 on: April 06, 2009, 02:56:31 PM »
1998 Daewoo Matiz and 1967 Simca 1100, as both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot), though virtually unchanged.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #334 on: April 06, 2009, 03:08:51 PM »
That was not an easy one!
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and  Simca 1100 1967   both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #335 on: April 06, 2009, 04:37:52 PM »
1967 Simca 1100 and 1984 Seat Ibiza.  Both company’s started car production with license built Fiat’s


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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #336 on: April 06, 2009, 04:44:07 PM »
Every time You guys remind me why I like this chain!
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984   both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #337 on: April 06, 2009, 04:58:25 PM »
Every time You guys remind me why I like this chain!

I’m addicted to this chain!

It’s only a pity that in the end, you can just earn a single (1) point.
There are faster puzzles to score a point.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #338 on: April 06, 2009, 05:01:14 PM »
That's not true!
You can earn from 1 to 4 points!
I'll find out where I write this rule and post it here.
I'm preparing anothe chain, slightly different...

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #339 on: April 06, 2009, 05:12:49 PM »
This was the link suggested: "Renault Type A 1½ CV  1898                         and           Tracta T11  (first car with CV joint) 1929                              model's name-part introduced first time"
As I barely begin to understand how this puzzle works, I realize that I don't understand AT ALL how the points count works!

I can help you in 3 way:

1- I try to explain that on the first page, Reply #13 , probably there are other 2 cars that can be linked because the name of one is the same of the part introduced with the second, like  a Citroen Traction Avant and history's first FWD car, that's why 3 points. If there are 2 cars connected in a way only they can, it will worth 4 points;

2- Only the last one will get the point(s) so it's pure academic to define now if one connection is better than another and

3- I will decide at the end as I will find appropriate, always open to suggestions of course, but I'm sure the last one will be definitely a 3\4 points link!

For example, if now you post another French car, it is an easy link, 1 point. If you post another car with a SCAP engine, it's a bit harder, 2 points, if there exist a car named Art Cat, the anagram of Tracta is even harder, probably not many cars can be linked this way, 3 points. If you find out that the Tracta founder left his son drive this car and in that occasion he had a car accident with a Mochet Cyclecar driven by his son, well, that's a 4 points link!
1 point: easy link (same make, name, country, number of wheels) There are a lot of cars that can be matched like this.
2 points: not so easy link (same engine, designer, one is the development of the other,...) Not many cars can be matched like this
3 points: hard link. Very few cars can share this connection.
4 points: almost unic. Probably there won't be other 2 cars that shares this connection.

For example your last reply worth 3 points. I can't find many manufacturers that started building cars under the license of the same third manufacturer.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #340 on: April 06, 2009, 05:29:28 PM »
Really great this chain, indeed  :)
To Simca and Seat one could add Lada, Zastava and Polski-Fiat. These too started as Fiat assembly factories and eventually became car makers with their own models.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #341 on: April 06, 2009, 05:52:00 PM »
Thank you, I'm glad you like it.
This is why I think this is a 3-point link: not unic but very hard!

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #342 on: April 07, 2009, 05:06:18 AM »
Really great this chain, indeed  :)
To Simca and Seat one could add Lada, Zastava and Polski-Fiat. These too started as Fiat assembly factories and eventually became car makers with their own models.

You should say VAZ, Zastava and FSO, as Lada and Polski Fiat are only makes. But FSO started with licence-built Russian GAZ, not with Fiats.
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #343 on: April 07, 2009, 01:34:48 PM »
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961, both cars are named after islands (in the Mediterranean Sea.)


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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #344 on: April 07, 2009, 02:04:30 PM »
I tell you this is never gonna end.
Since we are in the Mare Nostrum, what about this one:
1961 Ford Consul Capri and 1983 Buick Questor
Both cars named after political offices in the Roman Republic (I could have chosen the Opel Senator, but Questor has more pazazz).
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #345 on: April 07, 2009, 02:06:58 PM »
Ford Consul Capri and Opel Senator - both are named after Roman positions of authority in government


Hey ho, Ray beat me to it!
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #346 on: April 07, 2009, 02:10:49 PM »
Ford Consul Capri and Opel Senator - both are named after Roman positions of authority in government


Hey ho, Ray beat me to it!
And a 8:04:30 I wrote Opel Senator, then changed for the Questor. ;)
I had given up remebering all the already used connections long ago, but I was sure this one would make news.
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #347 on: April 08, 2009, 12:35:15 PM »
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961                   both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and  Buick Questor 1983          both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #348 on: April 08, 2009, 01:19:34 PM »
Not the most original link but I believe we have not used this one yet:

1983 Buick Questor 1983  and 1999 Oldsmobile recon.  Both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)         


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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #349 on: April 08, 2009, 02:27:02 PM »
I told you, there are few easy connections left...one less (but this is a 2-point one)