Author Topic: Neverending Chain, now closed! (Read 93954 times)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #200 on:** February 03, 2009, 06:37:09 PM »

Very good!
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:

-Both cars have the same: builder,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engineer,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,

-Both cars: are one-off,
have one exceptional technical spec,
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire

-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd

-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
Their last model derives from the same car

-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other

-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine

-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd

See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used

Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout
Bédélia BD3 1913 and what car? why?

Allan L · « **Reply #201 on:** February 04, 2009, 08:08:44 AM »

Like the Bédélia, the AV Monocar had wire-and-bobbin control of a centre-pivot front axle as a steering mechanism.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #202 on:** February 04, 2009, 08:21:49 AM »

Perfect!
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 same (steering) mechanism

DynaMike · « **Reply #203 on:** February 04, 2009, 09:00:14 AM »

I'd know a 'connection' of this very car in this picture, rather than of the car as such...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #204 on:** February 04, 2009, 09:21:36 AM »

Let me guess, a Humber 9/28 ?

DynaMike · « **Reply #205 on:** February 04, 2009, 09:32:08 AM »

Yes!

DynaMike · « **Reply #206 on:** February 04, 2009, 04:01:16 PM »

The AV Monocar could be linked to this 1968 Tecno-Daf F3 racecar since they both do not have headlights...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #207 on:** February 04, 2009, 04:23:03 PM »

That's clever, even if it is strange on a street-legal car but it is not on a race car!

AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part
Tecno-Daf F3 1968 and what car? why?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #208 on:** February 07, 2009, 10:28:27 AM »

Everyday closer to your point, unless....
Tecno-Daf F3 1968 and what car? why?

Allan L · « **Reply #209 on:** February 07, 2009, 12:47:21 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 07, 2009, 10:28:27 AM

Everyday closer to your point, unless....
Tecno-Daf F3 1968 and what car? why?

Well the 1968 Techno-DAF F3 has belts as the variable-speed part of its transmission and so did the Benz Velo of 1894

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #210 on:** February 07, 2009, 04:45:15 PM »

That's good but it sounds like a "both cars have the same mechanism" link already used for the Bédélia and the AV Monocar. I know that are different parts of the car, but in some cases I take the connection as general as possible, otherwise there will be really an infinite number of "same parts" connections! But a "same transmission" can be fine. Is it OK for you?

Allan L · « **Reply #211 on:** February 07, 2009, 06:01:25 PM »

the Bedalia/AV connection was centre-point and wire-and-bobbin steering. If you just call it "same mechanism" it would rule out a lot of interesting connections yet to come.
My point is that the change-speed mechanism involves belts in both but not in the same way - so it's not "same transmission" - you'd have to go to a modern CVT (or old Zenith-Gradua) for that.
Final drive in each case is by something else. (unlike some cyclecars (e.g. Bédélia) where that was the final drive and had nothing variable about it).

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #212 on:** February 07, 2009, 07:43:30 PM »

Quote from: Allan L on February 07, 2009, 06:01:25 PM

the Bedalia/AV connection was centre-point and wire-and-bobbin steering. If you just call it "same mechanism" it would rule out a lot of interesting connections yet to come.

That's fine, I'll consider a "similarities in the steering mechanism" in order to alllow more "mechanism" connections. I did this way because I though that you all were bored of a neverending list of same-device links, but it you say so, it means that probably you will keep on guessing!
About your last one, I got your point, just trying once again to make a general connection, but I was wrong, nothing to do with a transmission, it was a change-speed mechanism. I will consider "similarities in the change-speed mechanism".

Techno-DAF F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #213 on:** February 11, 2009, 11:49:41 AM »

Can the 1st car be the last one?

Allan L · « **Reply #214 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:15:50 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2009, 11:49:41 AM

Can the 1st car be the last one?

I'm sure it can be linked!
I'd do it myself, but that's not the way of this game, is it?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #215 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:27:31 PM »

The last one get the point, so, if you are the last one, there should be no-reason for you to continue it, even because the 30-days limit to get the score will start after your last post. On the other hand, one can try to lead the chain toward a car that is very obscure and hard to connect in order to end the game. I'm sure this is not your intention and that's why I will introduce a new rule: after 1 week without guesses, the last one can add a new car, linked to his previous. In this way, you can decide to wait one month or to change the last one every week in your advantage.

faksta · « **Reply #216 on:** February 11, 2009, 12:36:09 PM »

Let's say Benz Velo and this 1971 Alpine A110 1300S, as they both had a rear-engined scheme. I think this connection has not been proposed yet?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #217 on:** February 11, 2009, 02:01:51 PM »

No, it has not!

Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and What car? why?

DynaMike · « **Reply #218 on:** February 11, 2009, 05:32:11 PM »

The Alpine could be linked to this 1957 DKW F94 Limousine, since both had Brazilian equivalents: the Willys do Brasil Interlagos, and the DKW-Vemag Belcar.

Djetset · « **Reply #219 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:02:10 AM »

Italian coachbuilder Fissore designed coachwork for DKW that was unique to the Brazilian market (below). Volkswagen also had an 'Italian' body unique to Brazil with the Karmann-Ghia TC (and VW ultimately became the owner of the DKW marque!). Hope this helps to keep things rooling.....

Djetset · « **Reply #220 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:03:32 AM »

Ah, lost the DKW Fissore pic, so here it is....

Djetset · « **Reply #221 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:06:38 AM »

Curses, this Fissore seems too shy to want to be seen! Hopefully third time lucky it will apear now....

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #222 on:** February 12, 2009, 03:15:07 AM »

Excellent!
Before I get lost...
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific (Fissore's) coachwork for a country
Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and what car? why?
You are really good!

Ehhxekt · « **Reply #223 on:** February 12, 2009, 06:47:01 AM »

VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952

Both have a name referring to three different manufacturers at the same time. (As TC stands for 'Touring Coupe', some might say there is even a fourth one here

)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #224 on:** February 12, 2009, 07:05:21 AM »

This is very clever!
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 Both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers

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