Author Topic: Neverending Chain, now closed! (Read 94570 times)

Ray B. · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:38:47 AM »

I' m afraid we're gonna drive ol' Paul crazy on this one, we have so much trouble being sure of his rules.. I would have love if he had accepted Otto's UAW link, but...
Paul, would you accept this one: another Type B, the ERA Type B at Le Mans Classic 2008... ?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #26 on:** January 12, 2009, 11:44:03 AM »

Quote from: Ray B. on January 12, 2009, 11:38:47 AM

I' m afraid we're gonna drive ol' Paul crazy on this one, we have so much trouble being sure of his rules.. I would have love if he had accepted Otto's UAW link, but...
Paul, would you accept this one: another Type B, the Eras Type B...

Don't worry about that, I can be very patient...for example I'm going to say once more that I would like also a year and a picture if possible.
About Otto's link, that's one of the wildest, but it's not a car....

Ray B. · « **Reply #27 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:12:59 PM »

I cannot give you the year or the first one, nor the year of this other ERA type B... but the pic has been taken in 1936, with Raymond Mays at the wheel.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #28 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:17:03 PM »

Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and what car ? why?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:17:07 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2009, 08:18:42 AM

That's terrific, but where's the car related to the Auto Union?

Ever hear of General Motors?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #30 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:20:15 PM »

I did, but I kindly asked several time an asnwer in this form "car a" linked with "car b" for "this reason".

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #31 on:** January 12, 2009, 12:36:20 PM »

Rules is rules.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #32 on:** January 19, 2009, 08:21:52 AM »

Easy points for anyone who can find a connection between an Era Type B from 1935 and any other car!

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #33 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:14:19 AM »

Not me - I' out!

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #34 on:** January 19, 2009, 09:21:40 AM »

Allan L · « **Reply #35 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:32:49 PM »

That ERA may have started off as R4B but in the photo it is a C-type ERA (R4C) as it has the Porsche i.f.s.

neilshouse · « **Reply #36 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:44:23 PM »

Ok, I may have got the rules wrong and I'm sure someone will let me know if I have but.....

ERA Type B (or Type C) is connected with 1989 ERA Mini Turbo - Same manufacturers name.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #37 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:54:20 PM »

I'm afraid you have to change your answer, it's not the same name, it's the same manufacturer...in fact that's a M-Type Mini by ERA.
The "same manufacture's name" connection was already used for the Studebaker. You have 24 hours to replace it...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #38 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:55:38 PM »

The "same buider" connection was already used for the Studebaker...you have 24 hours to replace it with another one....

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #39 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:59:22 PM »

Quote from: Allan L on January 19, 2009, 01:32:49 PM

That ERA may have started off as R4B but in the photo it is a C-type ERA (R4C) as it has the Porsche i.f.s.

You finally give me the opportunity to tell you this...You are here the real expert, no matter how many points someone can get, but to recognize a car by the suspension, or the wheels or the bolts is far more "pro" than just recognize thousands of pictures from the net or the books!
BTW I consider the written answer. I ask also for a picture of a car because I do not want a simple list of cars, but a collection of pictures..(when possible).

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #40 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:35:43 PM »

Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2009, 09:21:40 AM

Why?

I thought breaking the chain resulted in ejection. I've now re-read the rules, and will have another look.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #41 on:** January 19, 2009, 02:57:11 PM »

Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and what car ? why?
Neilshouse will loose a point if He do not change his "same builder\manufacturer" connection within 24 hours. (a hint: you can even keep the car and find another link to it)

neilshouse · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:09:29 AM »

I will keep with my Mini ERA Turbo and change the link to - Same country of manufacture - England.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:16:28 AM »

That's OK!

Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19-- and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20-- and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen Traction Avant 19-- both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:35:00 AM »

Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and the Austin A30, launched at the Earls Court Motor Show in October 1951, because the engine in the Era Mini Turbo was a direct evolution of the engine that was launched in the A30.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #45 on:** January 20, 2009, 06:00:41 AM »

Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other car
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and what car? why?

That's more than 1 point and you leave the "same engine" connection available!

Ray B. · « **Reply #46 on:** January 20, 2009, 06:07:37 AM »

The Turner 803, or Turner A30, used the Austin A30 engine. I'll add a pic if this thing decides to work. It doesn't at the time I am writing this.

Whether you guys seldom have the same problem, whether you're all very patient. This is about the 20th time I am trying in vain to attach a pic this morning and i't's driving me off my rocker.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #47 on:** January 20, 2009, 06:12:03 AM »

Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 Same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and what car? why?

That's ok. 1 point for Ray B. if nobody finds out a further connection.
Don't forget the year next time..

Allan L · « **Reply #48 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:12:13 AM »

I'm lost - am I allowed a manufacturer of the same name that had no connection?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #49 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:26:02 AM »

Yes you are, the "Same builder" connection has been already used but the "same builder's name" connection (like an Ariel 30 Hp from 1908 and an Ariel Atom from 2000)hasn't!

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Author Topic: Neverending Chain, now closed! (Read 94570 times)