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Here's something different.
No car to guess but links. I'll start with a car, and you'll have to find out another car that shares ANY relation with the one I posted. But that's not all, because to get the point, nobody has to find out a link to the car you posted. If nobody continues the chain after one month, the point will go to the last one.
About the links, you can choose simple ones (4-cylinder, American, same builder), more articulated (same designer, same pilot...) or absolutely original (like the one I'm starting with).
Obviously the simple link get 1 point and the hard one more than one, but only the last one will get it so it's not important to define it now.
So easy? No, because you can use the same link and the same car only one time, and If you post the same link r car twice, you'll be warned and if you won't change it in 24h, you'll lose a point and the link will be not considered.
You'll have to post the pic of the car linked to the previous one but if you'll have technical problems, just add a link to a pic.
Here's an example (without pics and with easy links)
Fiat 600
Fiat 600 & Fiat Dino (same builder)
Fiat Dino & Ferrari Testarossa (same engine-builder)
Ferrari Testarossa & Lamborghini Miura (italian)
Lamborghini Mura & BMW 850 (12-cylinder)
BMW 850 & Auburn 850 (same model name)
and so on..
I choose simple links but they will finish soon!
Always open to suggestions...
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Let's start:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1955
Abarth's wife was the secretary of Dr Porsche's son-in-law.
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What a great idea, Paul! :)
Porsche 718 RSK
Studebaker Project Z-87, engineered by Porsche
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/StuPor1.jpg)
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Thank you, the point is, now that it's started, anyone can try with a very easy or a quite elaborate link. When days will pass by without any guess, I'll bump this up reminding everyone that there are easy points to get here. In the future the easy links will be over and we can prove our deepest knowledge...
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Well, one of us will ;)
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Geez - nobody has a Studebaker connection? That's inconceivable! :scratch:
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Whether I am stupid, whether I didn't quite get over the new year's eve festivities: I'm not sure I understand how this one is working. But if all that's needed is a Studebaker connection, here is one, a 1935 Dictator.
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Whether I am stupid, whether I didn't quite get over the new year's eve festivities: I'm not sure I understand how this one is working. But if all that's needed is a Studebaker connection, here is one, a 1935 Dictator.
I'm sorry I'm not too god in long speeches.
This is a chain and to continue it you can add a pic of a car related to the previous one. Can be the same builder, same year, cylinders, displacement, country, name, etc, as a simple link, or you can find a deeper one, like a pilot that drove both cars, cars that raced in the same race, same tecnical specs (like fwd, rwd, 4x4....), type of engine (wankel, diesel,.....), or you can just look for very obscure links (an example can be two of this cars http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5279.0 , that shares the same sad story..) like the one I started with. The only important rule is that you can use the same link only once and when you finish the 1-2-4-6-8-12-16-cylinders, or all the nationalities, or the major manufacturers, or all the easier links, you'll have to look for deeper connections to get the point(s). Right now the point will be yours if in 1 month (till 2nd Feb) nobody continues the chain. To do that anyone can just add a pic of an american car, a 6-cylinder car, a car from 1935 or look for something different and obscure like Hitler's Mercedes, or whatever. But now you can not use the "same builder" link or the "same engineer" link.
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Let's start:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1955
Abarth's wife was the secretary of Dr Porsche's son-in-law.
Ahem!
The 1955 Porsche Spyder was still the 550
The 718 RSK didn't arrive on the scene until 1958
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You are right, that's what happen when you post the pic you find on the net and you do not check them. Now, why don't you spend a little time also for continuing this chain?
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You are right, that's what happen when you post the pic you find on the net and you do not check them. Now, why don't you spend a little time also for continuing this chain?
Because I can't post pictures (no knowledge + no scanner)
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You'll have to post the pic of the car linked to the previous one but if you'll have technical problems, just add a link to a pic.
You can just post the name of the car and a link to a pic..if it's not a revealing site. If it's not possible to post links (question for the Administrators...) I'll accept also just the full name of a specific model, but only if you find a connection with a car and you are not able to post a pic/link. I would like to create a list of pictures and not just names.
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OK to follow the Studebaker Dictator, I shall offer a Car once owned by a dictator (Mussolini):
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935
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Perfect, but please report the full name of the model, in order to give everybody the chance to use it for a further link.
links used so far:
relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car (3 points link)
same engineer (1 point link)
same builder (1 point link)
model's name-driver's name (2 points link)
Just to give an idea for the "value" of a link:
1 point: generic link, can be used for thousands of different cars
2 points: harder link, can be used for different cars, but not many.
3 points: very hard link, probably there are other cars that can use the same link but it's unlikely
4 points: impossible link, only these 2 cars can use this link.
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I must admit I don't understand the rules of this puzzle. For what do I get a point?
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I'll try to make it simple, I'm sorry...
This is a chain, the point(s) will go to only one person, the last one of this chain, (so far, the last one is Allan ).
Allan will get 2 points if nobody find a link to his car ( Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935) for 1 month.
Now, if you want to try, you just have to find a car that shares something with this one. It can be something easy (another car from 1935, another Italian car-1 point-), or very hard, but you can not use the connection used before, the ones I posted earlier.
You'll became the last one, but no points for you for 1 month, You'll get them when this will be over and only if nobody else continues it after you.
Now is easy, but in the end, you will have to find obscure connection if you want to steal the points.
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Achille Varzi won the XI Coppa Acerbo race held on Pescara circuit (year 1935) driving an Auto Union Typ B. So, Typ B is a next car in this chain.
The picture is from another race and with another driver, if anyone would be interested.
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Perfect, but please report the full name of the model, in order to give everybody the chance to use it for a further link.
links used so far:
relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car (3 points link)
same engineer (1 point link)
same builder (1 point link)
model's name-driver's name (2 points link)
Just to give an idea for the "value" of a link:
1 point: generic link, can be used for thousands of different cars
2 points: harder link, can be used for different cars, but not many.
3 points: very hard link, probably there are other cars that can use the same link but it's unlikely
4 points: impossible link, only these 2 cars can use this link.
Me no like.
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Achille Varzi won the XI Coppa Acerbo race held on Pescara circuit (year 1935) driving an Auto Union Typ B. So, Typ B is a next car in this chain.
The picture is from another race and with another driver, if anyone would be interested.
I'll post the link already used (about the point, Otto, it was purely indicative, but to find out another car by Porsche seems not so difficult ;) )
relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
same engineer
same builder
model's name-driver's name
model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in (more than 1 point -is this OK? ;)-)
If nobody finds a link with the Auto Union Typ B from 1935, faksta will get his points.
You have 1 month.
You can not use the connections posted above.
(please remember to write the full name of the car and possibly the year)
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It's your puzzle - I was just grumbling. No need to change your scoring system. :)
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Achille Varzi won the XI Coppa Acerbo race held on Pescara circuit (year 1935) driving an Auto Union Typ B. So, Typ B is a next car in this chain.
The picture is from another race and with another driver, if anyone would be interested.
This picture is of employees of the Ford Motor Company being roughed up by the "Service" team of Henry Bennett, enlisted by Ford to resist unionization. Though this event transpired in 1937, the United Auto Workers (UAW) Union was first organized in the year 1935.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/noprize.gif)
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That's terrific, but where's the car related to the Auto Union?
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It's no concern of mine, I know, but it could be this...
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Good one, Ray!! :lmao: 'How Ford beauty is created'
My turn :) In Francis Ford Coppola's 'The Godfather' movie there was a car not actually from 1935, but very close - 1934 Fiat 508 Balilla.
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Let's put some order in here. I ask for the name of the car, complete with the year (that has not to be necessary 1935, unless this is the connection you decide).
I will appreciate the answer in this form:
Auto Union Typ B from 1935 and Make Model year because: your connection explained as you prefer , and a picture of that car (or a link to a pic if you are unable, but not a revealing link for further puzzles)
I will consider further replies only if completed (as possible, sometimes for some cars it's hard to determinate a "make" or a year) .The last one is still faksta.
So far:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B from 1935 and what car ? why?
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I' m afraid we're gonna drive ol' Paul crazy on this one, we have so much trouble being sure of his rules.. I would have love if he had accepted Otto's UAW link, but...
Paul, would you accept this one: another Type B, the ERA Type B at Le Mans Classic 2008... ?
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I' m afraid we're gonna drive ol' Paul crazy on this one, we have so much trouble being sure of his rules.. I would have love if he had accepted Otto's UAW link, but...
Paul, would you accept this one: another Type B, the Eras Type B...
Don't worry about that, I can be very patient...for example I'm going to say once more that I would like also a year and a picture if possible.
About Otto's link, that's one of the wildest, but it's not a car....
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I cannot give you the year or the first one, nor the year of this other ERA type B... but the pic has been taken in 1936, with Raymond Mays at the wheel.
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Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and what car ? why?
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That's terrific, but where's the car related to the Auto Union?
Ever hear of General Motors?
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I did, but I kindly asked several time an asnwer in this form "car a" linked with "car b" for "this reason". ;)
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Rules is rules.
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Easy points for anyone who can find a connection between an Era Type B from 1935 and any other car!
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Not me - I' out!
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Why?
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That ERA may have started off as R4B but in the photo it is a C-type ERA (R4C) as it has the Porsche i.f.s. 8)
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Ok, I may have got the rules wrong and I'm sure someone will let me know if I have but.....
ERA Type B (or Type C) is connected with 1989 ERA Mini Turbo - Same manufacturers name.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/ERAMiniTurbo.jpg)
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I'm afraid you have to change your answer, it's not the same name, it's the same manufacturer...in fact that's a M-Type Mini by ERA.
The "same manufacture's name" connection was already used for the Studebaker. You have 24 hours to replace it...
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The "same buider" connection was already used for the Studebaker...you have 24 hours to replace it with another one....
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That ERA may have started off as R4B but in the photo it is a C-type ERA (R4C) as it has the Porsche i.f.s. 8)
You finally give me the opportunity to tell you this...You are here the real expert, no matter how many points someone can get, but to recognize a car by the suspension, or the wheels or the bolts is far more "pro" than just recognize thousands of pictures from the net or the books!
BTW I consider the written answer. I ask also for a picture of a car because I do not want a simple list of cars, but a collection of pictures..(when possible).
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Why?
I thought breaking the chain resulted in ejection. I've now re-read the rules, and will have another look.
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:thumbsup:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and what car ? why?
Neilshouse will loose a point if He do not change his "same builder\manufacturer" connection within 24 hours. (a hint: you can even keep the car and find another link to it)
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I will keep with my Mini ERA Turbo and change the link to - Same country of manufacture - England.
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That's OK!
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19-- and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20-- and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen Traction Avant 19-- both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
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Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and the Austin A30, launched at the Earls Court Motor Show in October 1951, because the engine in the Era Mini Turbo was a direct evolution of the engine that was launched in the A30.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Austin A 30.JPG)
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Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other car
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and what car? why?
That's more than 1 point and you leave the "same engine" connection available!
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The Turner 803, or Turner A30, used the Austin A30 engine. I'll add a pic if this thing decides to work. It doesn't at the time I am writing this.
Whether you guys seldom have the same problem, whether you're all very patient. This is about the 20th time I am trying in vain to attach a pic this morning and i't's driving me off my rocker.
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Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 Same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and what car? why?
That's ok. 1 point for Ray B. if nobody finds out a further connection.
Don't forget the year next time.. ;)
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I'm lost - am I allowed a manufacturer of the same name that had no connection?
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Yes you are, the "Same builder" connection has been already used but the "same builder's name" connection (like an Ariel 30 Hp from 1908 and an Ariel Atom from 2000)hasn't!
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In that case I'll try this 1904 Turner-Miesse steamer!
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That's good!
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 Same builder's name
I will keep the list updated on the 2nd page.
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I'll go with another steamer - this 1909 Stanley Steamer Model E2
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Perfect!
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of enegy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-hydrogen-solar-...)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and what car? why?
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I'm going to risk a point by having another go as I don't think the "built in the same year" link has been used as yet
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 is connected to this 1909 Rolls-Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost (Roi-des-Belges by Barker) - Built in the same year
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/1909RollsRoyceGhost.jpg)
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You are not risking any point because: if you are wrong you have 24 hours to change your guess but if you check on the 2nd page, the list of connections, you'll see that nobody used it before!
Very well!
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and Rolls-Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost (Roi-des-Belges by Barker) 1909 same year
Rolls-Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost (Roi-des-Belges by Barker) 1909 and what car? why?
Hurry up folks, the easy connections are going to be over soon!
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Roi des Belges stands for King of Belgium, right? Here's a Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Chauffeur Coupe by Kellner, where SMT stands for Sa Majeste le Tzar, or His Majesty Tzar - Nikolai II's personal car. Does this fit, how do you think? I just don't know how to call the connection better :)
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Roi des Belges stands for King of Belgium, right? Here's a Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Chauffeur Coupe by Kellner, where SMT stands for Sa Majeste le Tzar, or His Majesty Tzar - Nikolai II's personal car. Does this fit, how do you think? I just don't know how to call the connection better :)
Very interesting but I have to ask you to define better the connection and please note that "model's name-driver's name" and "same model's name" are out of the game!
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Something like royal connection..Though for that RR that connection was not straight... ???
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I got it, but like the Studebaker Dictator was connected with a dictator's car you are suggesting a Roi-des-belges car connected with a Tzar's car, that is more or less the "model's name-driver's name" connection already used.
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Halo vehicles ;D
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I don't get it, but I have 24 hours... ;D
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They both were flagman models for their companies :)
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Rolls-Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost (Roi-des-Belges by Barker) 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Chauffeur Coupe by Kellner (the year) why?
in the end wich connection there is between these two cars?
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Yes, model year is gonna be 1908.
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Still looking for a connection...I really do not want to take away one of your well-deserved points, so why don't you find another connection between these two cars? There are some really easy links between almost all the cars, I'm sure you can find one, but you have to hurry!
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I was hoping the 'flagman' connection was OK...
Weren't they both one-offs?
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That's fine!
Rolls-Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost (Roi-des-Belges by Barker) 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Chauffeur Coupe by Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Chauffeur Coupe by Kellner 1908 and what car ? why?
Continue the chain with another car (name-model-year) to get 1 (or more) point... use a connection that is not in the list on page 2. If you make a mistake, don't worry, you will have 24 hours to change your reply, after that you'll lose a point. There are still a lot of very easy connections left...
If nobody continues this chain, faksta will get the point.
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1947 Rovin 1CV 1/2 was built in the same factory building in Saint-Denis as the Delaunay-Bellevilles were built before.
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That's a connection!
Very good. If nobody continues you'll get 3 points!
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Chauffeur Coupe by Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and what car? why?
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Just found that Robert de Rovin bought the Delaunay-Belleville factory in 1948, so the above prototype (shown on the 1946 Paris Salon) wasn't yet built there. My apologies. But the link Delaunay-Belleville - Rovin is still there...
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No problem, the spirit of this chain is in the connections between cars, like in this case between a huge, gorgeous car and a tiny little car. The connection is OK, because eventually Rovin built his cars in the D-B factory, and the picture is just something more I ask in order to have something to see in this post beside a list of cars. I try to check every connection you will find and for me this one is fine, even if the particular car you posted wasn't actually built there.
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Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and 1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV
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1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV and a 1926 Tracta, which was the first cat that incorporated a from of CV or Constant Velocity joint, which J.A. Gregoire had invented two years previous.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1926 Tracta.jpg)
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Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and 1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV
Ok, but can you define the connection? Same capacity? Same CV number?
1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV and a 1926 Tracta, which was the first cat that incorporated a from of CV or Constant Velocity joint, which J.A. Gregoire had invented two years previous.
Wow, I'm not sure I get this one....can you explain it?
if possible report also a model name.
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Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and 1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV
Ok, but can you define the connection? Same capacity? Same CV number?
Same CV number was what I intended by the underlining. You've not had that connection before, I think.
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CV in the model designation of the first car, CV is the name of the part in the second car, which introduced it.
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Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and what car? why?
Thank you, I'm really learning a lot!
This connection will give Otto 3 points, if nobody finds out how to continue this chain.
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As I barely begin to understand how this puzzle works, I realize that I don't understand AT ALL how the points count works!
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As I barely begin to understand how this puzzle works, I realize that I don't understand AT ALL how the points count works!
I can help you in 3 way:
1- I try to explain that on the first page, Reply #13 , probably there are other 2 cars that can be linked because the name of one is the same of the part introduced with the second, like a Citroen Traction Avant and history's first FWD car, that's why 3 points. If there are 2 cars connected in a way only they can, it will worth 4 points;
2- Only the last one will get the point(s) so it's pure academic to define now if one connection is better than another and
3- I will decide at the end as I will find appropriate, always open to suggestions of course, but I'm sure the last one will be definitely a 3\4 points link!
For example, if now you post another French car, it is an easy link, 1 point. If you post another car with a SCAP engine, it's a bit harder, 2 points, if there exist a car named Art Cat, the anagram of Tracta is even harder, probably not many cars can be linked this way, 3 points. If you find out that the Tracta founder left his son drive this car and in that occasion he had a car accident with a Mochet Cyclecar driven by his son, well, that's a 4 points link!
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Thanks Paul. I was just trying to be witty and didn't want to force you into a long explanation, but now I get it (almost) all! And I would heve kept playing even if I didn't.
The last thing is: do we still get those points if someone can continue the chain, or is it only the LAST puzzler who scores (as I had understood at first) ?
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No problem at all, I got your point!
Only the last one will get 1 or more point.
That's why there is a 30-days limit after the last ring of this chain. After 30 days without valid guesses the chain will be over, will go to the solved section and the last puzzler will have the points. If there will be a wrong guess (a connection already used or somewhat wrong) there will be 24 hours limit to change it or I will subtract a point. This is in order to prevent anyone to shoot in the dark without thinking and this is the reason why I'm not so strict in this (am I Fastka?), when the connection was serious (but wrong\used).
But now, for example, are you going to leave Otto 3 points when you can just add thousands of cars? As time will go by, there will be no more easy connections and if you really want to get points you will have to: look closer to that model, to the manufacturer's history, to what happen in that year, who drove that car, where, why....
I'm only sad because I can't join this chain! But, hey, if someone likes the idea, when this one will be over (if ever)......
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Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and what car? why?
How about 1907 Grand Prix Christie which, like that Tracta, has front-wheel-drive?
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Perfect! It's hard to find another car with the same capacity, at least ;)!
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and what car? why?
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A very last point: does the winner walks away with all the points his links gave him throughout the chain, or just with those earned with his last link?
Now, to show that I still may not have undestood ALL: let's say I found a car for sale with 19981 miles on the odometer (same number as the displacment, in cm3, of the Christie). Does it qualify?
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Only his last guess gives him points, so whoever will be, the maximum amount he has to hope for is 4 points.
If you find such car, with 19981 miles, in your opinion can I accept a connection like:
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Fiat Punto 1.7 Diesel the cm3 of the first - the kilometers the 2nd run?
I don't think, because in no way 19981 kilometers can define a Fiat Punto! The previous connections in a certain way can define the car the are related to, even the slightlest one someone suggested via PM (they are both made of tin!), but the km of one exemplar doesn't apply, unless that car has its particularity in that, like that Mercedes-Benz Taxi with # millions kilometers on its shoulders!
I think the easy way to get it is to try it. I'm sure you will not risk a single point, and feel free to suggest whatever you like, always remembering thet we are interested in car history, specs or trivia!
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The difficulty will be to backtrack the neverending list of possible connections.
For instance: "do we already had the connection: both cars have side mirrors?"
But real autopuzzlers keep that in an ethical correct manner and never would post such stupid comments ..... ;)
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The difficulty will be to track backtrack the neverending list of possible connections.
For instance: "do we already had the connection: both cars have side mirrors?"
But real autopuzzlers keep that in an ethical correct manner and never would post such stupid comments ..... ;)
Not a real difficulty if you keep track of them one by one like I'm doing in the 2nd page!
About the connections, feel free to try, if it's inappropriate, I will decide. And once again, please note that if you use "both cars have side mirrors" I will (eventually) consider "both cars have the same body elements" generically, so nobody will use a "both cars have a windshield\rearview mirror\roof\hood\.." connection. If you link 2 coupes. 2 hardtop, 2 spider, it's different, but you can use it only once.I don't really care if someone want to try silly guesses...it's up to them and I don't mind to consider their guesses.
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Well I've found a car with the same engine displacement (well, just about it, 20.000 cm3 for this one, let's not be picky for 19 cm3), a Honda prototype.
Only problem: it's a toy...
Moteur V10 VTEC de 20 litres de cylindrée et double cockpit indépendant, voici les ingrédients du prochain prototype Honda ! Mais ne rêvez pas ce "délire" d'ingénieurs a été conçu... pour les enfants. Ce bolide mesure ainsi 7 cm de longueur, 3 cm de largeur et 2,2 cm en hauteur. Son poids : 40 grammes !
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I said that I will be elastic with the connections, but why are You exploring the limits?
This thing has a “theoretical” 20 litre “engine” and is fuelled by “Gravity and a child’s imagination”.
Now, absolutely no problem for the missing 19cm3, but here the real car is missing. The next step will be Donald Duck's car? the limits are not so thight, but at least, post a CAR with a model name and a year (if possible model and year, I know sometimes it isn't).
If you REALLY want to match the capacity, there is another car, a real one and not so obscure of about 20500cc, I can accept that with an "outrageous capacity" connection, but not this.
You have 24hours to change this design with something real...if in the meantime Honda doesn't decide to make it real!
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Sorry Paul... This was somehow meant as a joke, but...
Well if you admit an "similar engine displacement" or "outrageous capacity" link with a 519 cc difference (which is about the displacement of a Citroen 2CV engine yet), I propose the 1915 Mercedes Benz 79/200 SP, with a diplacement of 20.500cc.
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A nitpicker, he say Daimler and Benz didn't amalgamate until 1926, so it's a Mercedes!
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My mistake: I wrote it just as it was on the website where I found it, and reproduced theirs.
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That's the car!
Christie Grand Prix (20lt) 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, dimensions, top speed, power,....)
Mercedes 79\200 PS and what car? why?
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Mercedes 79\200 PS and what car? why?
1955 Swallow Doretti based on Triumph mechanical components.
The Mercedes "brand" was named after Mercedes Jellinek, daughter of Daimler's French distributor
The Doretti name came from the Italianisation of Arthur Andersen’s daughter Dorothy Dean’s name who was also Triumph’s distributor for Southern California and by all accounts was a stunning blond.
i.e. both named after young ladies, both of whom were daughters of the cars distributors.
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How about the 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Rondine for the next one? 'Rondine' means 'swallow' in Italian; that is, the same bird – Hirundo rustica – appears in the name of both cars.
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1955 Swallow Doretti based on Triumph mechanical components.
The Mercedes "brand" was named after Mercedes Jellinek, daughter of Daimler's French distributor
The Doretti name came from the Italianisation of Arthur Andersen’s daughter Dorothy Dean’s name who was also Triumph’s distributor for Southern California and by all accounts was a stunning blond.
i.e. both named after young ladies, both of whom were daughters of the cars distributors.
That's definetly a 4 points connection!
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
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How about the 1963 Chevrolet Corvette Rondine for the next one? 'Rondine' means 'swallow' in Italian; that is, the same bird – Hirundo rustica – appears in the name of both cars.
Make perfect sense!
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and what car? why?
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Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and the Amphicar. The Corvette name is taken from a sea-going vessel; the Amphicar was a sea-going vessel (not a very good one, but...), that was also a car.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/amphicar01.jpg)
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Very well
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1973 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1973 and what car? why?
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Amphicar and 1960 Cadillac. Both have tail fins, same physical body feature.
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Ok, but can You choose a Model from the 1960's line-up?
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1960 Cadillac Coupe de Ville has fins like the Amphicar.
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Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1973 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and what car? why?
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
Both cars have the same: builder\manufacturer,factory building,builder's name,model's name,country,year,
engineer,engine,source of energy,number of CV,traction,body style elements, mileage radius
The name of one car and: the driver of the second,the circuit where it raced,the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language, the name of the city founded.
Both cars: are one-off, have one exceptional technical spec, are named after daughters
of the cars distributors
Name of a vessil & a sea-going car
The engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
One builder's relative worked for the builder of the other car
See page 2 for details.
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1960 Cadillac Coupe de Ville and a 1915 Detroit Electric.
Cadillac, saved by Henry Leland and others from the ruins of a failed automobile company started by Henry Ford, was named for 17th century French explorer Antoine Laumet de La Mothe, sieur de Cadillac, who founded Detroit in 1701. The Detroit Electric was named for the city he founded.
Here's another connection tidbit: Clara Ford, the wife of Cadillac progenitor Henry Ford, drove Detroit Electrics from 1908, when Henry bought her a Model C coupe with a special child seat, through the late teens. Her third car was a 1914 Model 47 brougham model.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1915_Detroit_Electric.jpg)
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That's really great!
Both connections are brilliant, I suppose You prefer the 1st.
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and what car? why?
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Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955, same mileage radius
The radius of a 1915 Detroit Electric was rated at 60-70 miles on one charge – about the same distance that the 1955 Lincoln Indianapolis Boano show car, fitted with a fuel tank of only five gallons and returning cca 14 mpg, would be able to cover without having to stop at a gas station.
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Wow, that's impressive!
I'm going to trust on you on this! ;D
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and what car? why?
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
-Both cars have the same: builder\manufacturer,factory building,builder's name,model's name,country,city of construction,year,
engineer,engine,source of energy,number of CV,traction,body style elements, mileage radius
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,the circuit where it raced,the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language, the name of the city founded.
-Both cars: are one-off, have one exceptional technical spec, are named after daughters
of the cars distributors
-Name of a vessil & a sea-going car
-The engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
-The designer of one car worked for the design-house of the second
-The same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
-One builder's relative worked for the builder of the other car
-The last model of both builders derives from the same car
See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used.
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Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and the 1993 Coupé Fiat.
Boano's work on the Lincoln was said to have influenced Fiat to start its Centro Stile department, with Boano at the helm. The first iteration of the Coupé Fiat, crafted in 1990 - a creation of several design minds within Centro Stile, including Chris Bangle - had no trunk (boot) - just like the Lincoln Indianapolis.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1990 Coupe Fiat Prototype.jpg)
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You picture doesn't show up, but I got the car. The "same body elements" connection has been already used (and the Coupè has got a trunk) so:
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupè 1993 The designer of one car worked for the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and what car? why?
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The coupe prototype did not have a trunk.
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I still can't see the pic, so I was assuming you were referring to the Coupe...but the connection is perfect, now will be harder and harder try to steal the points from the last one (this time you!)....there are few simple ones...
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Here's a simple one I think you've not yet had.
Fiat (ori. FIAT) was made in Turin, and so was Lancia, for example the Lancia Augusta with Whittingam & Mitchell body (well the body wasn't)
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Ok, "same country" was already taken, but that's different!
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta Whittingam&mitchell 1935 and what car? why?
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Lancia Augusta with Whittingam & Mitchell body and a Graham Paige roadster. Both are connected to Eustace Watkins, a dealer of Graham Paige automobiles, and, for a time, the owner of coachbuilder Whittingam & Mitchell.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/EWat-full.jpg)
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I think this one will be a true neverending one if you keep on finding these relationships!!
Lancia Augusta Whittingam&mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Roadster 1929 : the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
That was good!
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The last model by Graham-Paige was the Hollywood, virtually the same car as the last car built by Hupmobile, the 1940 Skylark. Both were rear wheel drive adaptations of the Cord 810.
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I wonder how I'm going to put it down in a few words!
You are doing exactly what I was hoping to, finding the deepest connections!
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Graham-Paige Model 827 Roadster 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 Last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and what car? why?
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Graham-Paige Model 827 Roadster 1929 and a 1955 Chevrolet Nomad.
Automotive companies with founders of the same first name (not surname), who's brothers were tied to their early automotive empires.
Louis Hupp and his brother Robert Craig Hupp, a former employee of Oldsmobile and Ford, founded Huppmobile in 1908.
Chevrolet was the brainchild of Louis Chevrolet, who also competed in the Indianapolis 500 four times, with a best finish of seventh in 1919. Younger brother Gaston won there in 1920 in a car Louis built.
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Once again it seems that there are no limits for you! But I'm afraid this time you missed a step, now the last car is a Hupmobile Skylark 1940, probably if you can rearrange....
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Once again it seems that there are no limits for you! But I'm afraid this time you missed a step, now the last car is a Hupmobile Skylark 1940, probably if you can rearrange....
Well actually his case is really for the Hupmobile, not the Graham Paige . . .
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I'm lost.
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 : founder's brothers were tied to their early automotive empires?
Is this the connection?
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The Graham Paige was a Huppmobile built under license.
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I know, but is this the connection you mean?
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 : founder's brothers were tied to their early automotive empires?
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That's correct
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Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and what car? why?
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
-Both cars have the same: builder\manufacturer,factory building,builder's name,model's name,country,city of construction,year,
engineer,engine,engine layout,source of energy,number of CV,traction,body style elements, mileage radius
-Both manufacturers: made an unorthodox vehicle
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,the circuit where it raced,the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language, the name of the city founded.
-Both cars: are one-off, have one exceptional technical spec, are named after daughters, had later revival projects
of the cars distributors
-Name of a vessil & a sea-going car
-The engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
-The designer of one car worked for the design-house of the second
-The same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
-One builder's relative worked for the builder of the other car
-The last model of both builders derives from the same car
-Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
-their engineers worked for the same company\model
-the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
-the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd
See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used
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Chevrolet Nomad and Veritas RS. Both had later revival projects.
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I like it, plane and simple!
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 Both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and what car? why?
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Veritas RS 2000 1947 and AFM 2,5 L 1951
The Veritas was the brainchild of Ernst Loof, AFM was founded by Alex von Falkenhausen. Both engineers worked for BMW before the war, and contributed to the development of the famous 328 Sport model.
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Now is getting harder....well done!
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1947 and what car? why?
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(http://www.thomas-gersch.de/History/Archiv/Alexander%20von%20Falkenhausen%20faehrt%20im%20BMW%20700%20RS1963.JPG)
BMW 700 RS: was driven by Alexander von Falkenhausen who wasn't only an talented engineer, but also a successful racing driver!
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That is good:
AFM 2.5l 1947 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and what car? why?
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I don't think we've had a specific link for flat-twin (boxer) engines. Like the BMW 700, the Wolseley 7 h.p. has that engine layout
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No, we had not!
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 Same engine layout
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The license plate (NK-numbers) indicates this car is from Hertfordshire. Students of the University of Hertfordshire built this 2007 UH10, a Hydrogen Electric Formula car. I don't think we had the geographical link based on a license plate, yet.
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I really do like this one, but I said that the picture is not crucial, not a matter for the connection. If there is a blu Renault Clio, you can't continue the chain with another blue car, because the blue color do not define a Clio in any way.On the other hand, a picture of the Jenatzy Jamais Contente allows connections like this because it's only available in that color. If you post a one-off or a car (like the Rolls-Royce AX101) that can be somewhat related to the license plate it's OK, but this one is not a connection, is a coincidence!
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OK, quite logical. Let's make another attempt:
Wolseley made also a two-wheel car, the Gyrocar.
And Ford had its 1961 two-wheel Gyron:
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OK, so the next step in this chain is:
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and because ?
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Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 because Wolseley made a two-wheel car like the later Ford Gyron.
Hrmm, I guess I made one step too much, didn't I ?
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nothing irreparable when I can find a more generic connection ;) !
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 because both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and what car? why?
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Wasn't Gyrocar Schilowski's personal project?
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Yes it was, but I think that the connection is still valid, sometimes even the "official" concepts are the development of so-called personal projects....
and "unorthodox vehicles were made from cars of both manufacturers" do not sound soo well....
( ok probably they can buy this.... ::))
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I wasn't asking that to ruin the connection, but to be sure I've had the right info :)
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You were right, Wolseley didn't make such car and it's good to point this out. ;)
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Ford Gyron 1961 and the Tucker Torpedo. Ford credited the gyroscopic concept of the Gyron to Louis Brennan, who invented the steerable torpedo.
(Both car's bodies were designed by Alex Tremulis, but I believe "same designer" was already used).
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/800px-Trucker_Car.jpg)
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Paul, I've been impressed by yours too, but the knowledge accumulated by this man is beyond belief !
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:scratch:
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... the knowledge accumulated by this man is beyond belief !
Absolutely!
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and what car? why?
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Tucker Torpedo 1948 and 1931 Rolls-Royce Phantom II : both cars star in a film that bears their name. Tucker, the man and his dream and The yellow Roll-Royce
You can object that the title of Tucker refers more to the man, but his dream refers to the car. Besides, both cars bear the name of their makers.
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That is good!
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 : both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and what car? why?
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
-Both cars have the same: builder\manufacturer,factory building,builder's name,model's name,country,city of construction,year,
engineer,engine,engine layout,source of energy,number of CV,traction,body style elements, mileage radius
-Both manufacturers: made an unorthodox vehicle
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,the circuit where it raced,the part introduced first time,the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car, the same name in a different language, the name of the city founded.
-Both cars: are one-off, have one exceptional technical spec, star in a film, had later revival projects, are named after daughters of the cars distributors or after the same object\thing,derived from different cars
-Hood ornament and: nickname of the car, nickname of the engine
-Name of a vessil & a sea-going car
-The engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
-The designer of one car worked for the design-house of the second
-The same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
-One builder's relative worked for the builder of the other car
-The last model of both builders derives from the same car
-Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
-their engineers worked for the same company\model
-the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
-the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd
-one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used
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Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and a 1949 Packard Convertible Coupe.
The former company designed and built aircraft engines that were also built under license by the latter. Rolls Royce (Merlin) engines were built under license by Packard in WWII, to power P51 Mustang fighter planes.
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How I like this game.....
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and what car? why?
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Nickname of the Packard (Pregnant Elelphant) was hood ornament on the 1931 Bugatti Royale...
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The Royale ornament was a Pregnant Elephant?!?
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The Bugatti elephant doesn't look so pregnant to me, but if Paul agrees it's OK with me.
If he doesn't, I have another elephant, although I'm not quite sure of how the relation between both can be qualified (but he may see the same problem with yours too...):
The Chrysler produced 426 Hemi engine's nickname was "Elephant" in the muscle car world.
So here is a car with an elephant not OVER the hood, but UNDER the hood: a 1970 Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426
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May I suggest a way to connect the proposed Superbird to Dynamike Bugatti Royale:
as I was saying before, the two cars metaphorically carry, upfront, the same animal, an elephant. One over the hood, the other under the hood.
Now if Dynamike idea is rejected (I don't hope so): Since the Packard is pregnant, not only is it an elephant, but it's got another elephant in its innards, like the Plymouth.
@Paul: I've been bothering you too long with some zany connections. If those suggestions look the same to you, just dismiss them. No worry.
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Let's proceed with order...
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament
This is fine. I was just considering a bit outrageous the match (and funny of course) between the Pregnant animal and the Bugatti's sculpture, but of course it is a brilliant connection and of course I accept it.
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament
This is perfect as well and if you were bothering me you will be the first one and this will be the first time, because I'm really enjoing this. Your connections aren't zany at all and don't worry about my patience, I've never seen its limit!
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OK Plymouth is the port from which the "Pilgrim Fathers" sailed to America.
Seville was where Christobal Colon (Columbus) sailed to (what turned out to be) America
Let's say a Cadillac Seville which may look like this, for all I know!
(http://photos.ebizautos.com/7307/3431877_1.jpg)
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Great!
Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 (?) both cars named after the same object\thing FIXED (city)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and what car? why?
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Cadillac Seville and Arnolt Bristol
Ross Bagdasarian (AKA David Seville of “Alvin and the Chipmunks” fame), played “Tani Ritter” in the movie The Devil’s Hairpin, which featured an Arnolt Bristol, among other cars.
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Arnolt Bristol and Sokol-650. In 1957 the movie called 'Rivalen am Steuer' was shot in DDR, featuring among the others 1952 Sokol-650 cars (aka Awtowelo 650).
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thin ice...
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
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Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Sokol 650 1952 because ? (Note that "both cars star in a film" is out of the game.)
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OK Plymouth is the port from which the "Pilgrim Fathers" sailed to America.
Seville was where Christobal Colon (Columbus) sailed to (what turned out to be) America
Let's say a Cadillac Seville which may look like this, for all I know!
I am sorry to say, Allan, but Seville is no harbor at all. As a matter of fact, it's about 60 miles away from the sea. From what I read , he sailed from a place named Palos de la Frontera.
Your connection doesn't work.
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Great!
Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 (?) both cars named after the same object\thing FIXED (city)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and what car? why?
Fixed, thanks!
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Ouch!
Sorry, I forgot Ray has already used this connection... Nevermind then, reject Sokol entry please.
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I'm afraid I can't, you have 24 hours to change it or to prove it right, after that I will have to take 1 point of yours away...I'm sure you can find a link between the Arnolt Bristol Bolide and the Sokol or another car, there are still a lot of easy connections out there and I really do not want to take any point to anyone.
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Let's say both cars were built around other company's idea. Arnolt was a Bristol, while Sokol/Awtowelo borrowed many things from Auto Union.
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I have to ask you to elaborate a little bit. You can even take another car if you please.The Arnolt had the Bristol engine, but was a different car and I'm not familiar with the Sokol-Auto Union connection.
There is an Arnolt Bristol as a start, find another car that, for any reason, can be matched to this, avoiding the links on the top of this page (or in the 2nd page in detail). The connection can even be an easy one, or you can dig a little bit in the Arnolt story and look for what shows up! The next move is yours for the next 24 hours.
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Sokol was built on ideas taken from pre-war Auto Union GP cars, which USSR captured during WW2. Some historians even think it is a never built Auto Union Typ E, though I highly doubt that.
As for Arnolt, it had a shortened Bristol 404 chassis and Bristol 403 engine.
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Ok, that is good!
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars
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They were even derived from other pre-war cars (Auto-Union racer and BMW 328)
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Well, basically, yes...
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Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and The Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 Formula One car with which Stirling Moss won the 1961 Monaco Grand Prix.
An example of each rests in the Donington Grand Prix Collection museum, Leics., UK.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Lotus_18_Stirling_Moss_Monaco_1961.jpg)
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Now there's an easy one that's never been used, right?
Lotus 18 Formula One and Ferrari 625. Both cars won the Monaco Grand Prix (the Ferrari, with Maurice Trintignant at the wheel, in 1955)
I believe that this thing is really NEVER gonna end.
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Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
-Both cars have the same: builder,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engineer,
engine,
engine layout,
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius
-Both cars: are one-off,
have one exceptional technical spec,
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race
I believe that this thing is really NEVER gonna end.
Hence the name....
Ferrai 625 F1 1955 and What car? Why?
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Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955, and the Chrysler 300K Convertible from 1964. 625 was the type of the Ferrari, and 625 was the number of 300K convertibles produced in the 1964 model year.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/300k 1964.jpg)
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Chrysler 300K and this 1968 Volvo 122 S. Chrysler's wheelbase was 122 in inches, while 122 was also Volvo's model designation.
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Volvo 122 S and Michael Schumacher's championship winning kart from 1987.
Volvo is headquartered in Gothenburg, Sweden, and Schumaker won both the German and European Championships for 1987 at Gothenburg, Sweden, ahead of drivers such as Alessandro Zanardi, Karl Wendlinger and Emanuele Naspetti.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Mikeskart.jpg)
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OK Plymouth is the port from which the "Pilgrim Fathers" sailed to America.
Seville was where Christobal Colon (Columbus) sailed to (what turned out to be) America
Let's say a Cadillac Seville which may look like this, for all I know!
I am sorry to say, Allan, but Seville is no harbor at all. As a matter of fact, it's about 60 miles away from the sea. From what I read , he sailed from a place named Palos de la Frontera.
Your connection doesn't work.
Tardy response as broadband is playing up today!
In those days a decent river was all you needed and Seville has indeed a river (been there, seen it). It may well have been that they stopped off for final supplies at Palos de la Frontera, I don't know.
There is a fine memorial to the enterprise in Seville
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Only a Londoner could say that (or a Briton at least), I don't know what you are. Of course, the is a well-known London Harbor.
And also, theorically, a Paris Harbor, but try to say to a Parisian that he lives in a harbor and he'll look at you like you come from Mars.
You're right Allan.
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Only a Londoner could say that (or a Briton at least), I don't know what you are. Of course, the is a well-known London Harbor.
And also, theorically, a Paris Harbor, but try to say to a Parisian that he lives in a harbor and he'll look at you like you come from Mars.
You're right Allan.
I suppose we have to say that Seville was where his funds came from and he left it to "look for the Indies" by heading West. The ships he used were assembeled at Palos de la Frontera and although I reckon he probably went there by river, it was not in one of the transatlantic fleet.
Inland cities with harbours (at least adequate for 15th century ships) are not uncommon - Antwerp, for example, if you don't like London.
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Ok, so we have:
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other
@Otto, about that kart, is there a make-model designation available? Otherwise will be a little hard...and the connection is between the Volvo and Micheal, the link with the car is really thin...(something like place of manufacturer-place were the pilot won)...
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I want to make sure I understand - estimating the mileage of a concept car is a solid connection, but connecting a car built in a specific city with a championship won in the same city is 'thin".
I don't know the brand; I believe most karts are an amalgam of parts - a motor from here; a chassis from there, etc.
I guess you'll have to disallow my answer.
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I want to make sure I understand - estimating the mileage of a concept car is a solid connection, but connecting a car built in a specific city with a championship won in the same city is 'thin".
I don't know the brand; I believe most karts are an amalgam of parts - a motor from here; a chassis from there, etc.
I guess you'll have to disallow my answer.
About the mileage of the concept, in some occasion I have to trust your connections. I do not think that anybody will come up with a fake one just to get a point, and of course everybody can prove it wrong. I'm sure Ehhxekt took that data from a valid source, and I have a loot of books to prove a lot of links, but I don't know where to start to verify this. That's why I think it's fine, it's just a game and there is no joy in cheating.
Your connection is not worse that that, but you are connecting "a car built in a specific city" with "a championship won in the same city". OK, you are proposing the car that won that championship, and it's fine, but only as Schumacher's winning kart . That's why I said it's not so solid. If You have a specific model, will be "a car built in a specific city"and "the car that won in that place", with or without Schumi. And you know the rules, I can't just disallow your answer... ;D
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So Ottos link was OK? Or do we have to wait untill he made a link with a car with a name? Or can we continue the chain y connecting the Volvo to another car? (In that case I would have something...
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Otto has 24 hours to change the connection or change the car and find a new connection.
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Pass
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The engine of the Volvo was called 'B18'. In 1927 Citroën built a bunch of 1200 cars with model name 'B18'. These were basically B14 G models, but they had RHD and a 19 cm larger track. They were destinated for the Far-East. Only two are reported to have survived, one in Holland and one in France.
(so the link is 'ones engine name is the others model name)
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Pass
Sorry Otto, but I don't get this. You have found some unthinkable connections before and now you pass because I said that I need a model designation instead of a driver? I'm sure you have zero-problem in finding another link between a Volvo and any other model or in looking for the name of that kart. I do not want to be a nit-picker, but I don't know how this chain can go on after a generic Schumi's kart. And what does it mean that you pass, that I have to take away one point of yours? You know that's just a way to prevent people from shooting in the dark, but that's not your case. So, please, why don't you reconsider your original idea, looking for that model or another car? If you are tired of all this, then no problem, but I really do not want to take anyone's point.
About your link, DynaMike, it's perfect, but I'm still waiting for Otto's decision, and if He decide to continue, I'm afraid will be useless.
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And I've got quite a good one to follow DynaMike!
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OK, in this case I will accept DynaMike connection, waiting gladly for Allan's one and I won't take Otto's point because I will do that only in case of a connection already used or a totally silly one, in one word only when it's not serious or if the proposing guesser did not even take the time to look at the updated list.
If someone has got any suggestion, I'm always open, and let's the fun go on.
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OK here's a connection: André Citroën, whose company made the Citroën was the works manager for Mors in the period just before the Great War when the 12-15 was made.
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That's interesting!
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12-15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and what car? why?
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there's nothing after Allan's car?
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Nowadays the traffic and direction signs in France made by Michelin are best known, but in the beginning of the 20th century several car companies placed such signs. Mors was one of them, later Citroën was better known for their signs, but also Renault and Peugeot made those. Thus I'd like to make a link from Mors -> traffic sign by Mors -> traffic sign by Peugeot -> 1922 Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 E 4CV.
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I like this!
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 E 4CV 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object
Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 E 4CV 1922 and what car? why?
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Peugeot Quadrilette was a successor of Peugeot's previous cheap model - Bebe, which was designed by Ettore Bugatti. But before Peugeot Bugatti proposed his project to Wanderer. They've refused, but a bit later showed their own car - Wanderer W1 Puppchen, which technically was an evolution of Bebe. Thus, my connection would be Quadrilette - 1911-1913 Wanderer W1 Puppchen. I think we can say they've had the same predecessor.
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OK, this is good, but I read that Wanderer refused Bugatti's project because they had their project ready,but I think that some ideas can be found in the Puppchen as well!
Peugeot Type 161 E 4cv Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car
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The Wanderer Püppchen (with two dots on the u ;) ) had a tandem seating layout, just as this 1913 Bédélia BD3, even though here the driver sits in the rear...
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Very good!
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
-Both cars have the same: builder,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engineer,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,
-Both cars: are one-off,
have one exceptional technical spec,
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout
Bédélia BD3 1913 and what car? why?
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Like the Bédélia, the AV Monocar had wire-and-bobbin control of a centre-pivot front axle as a steering mechanism.
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Perfect!
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 same (steering) mechanism
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I'd know a 'connection' of this very car in this picture, rather than of the car as such...
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Let me guess, a Humber 9/28 ?
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Yes! ;D
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The AV Monocar could be linked to this 1968 Tecno-Daf F3 racecar since they both do not have headlights...
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That's clever, even if it is strange on a street-legal car but it is not on a race car!
AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part
Tecno-Daf F3 1968 and what car? why?
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Everyday closer to your point, unless....
Tecno-Daf F3 1968 and what car? why?
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Everyday closer to your point, unless....
Tecno-Daf F3 1968 and what car? why?
Well the 1968 Techno-DAF F3 has belts as the variable-speed part of its transmission and so did the Benz Velo of 1894
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That's good but it sounds like a "both cars have the same mechanism" link already used for the Bédélia and the AV Monocar. I know that are different parts of the car, but in some cases I take the connection as general as possible, otherwise there will be really an infinite number of "same parts" connections! But a "same transmission" can be fine. Is it OK for you?
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the Bedalia/AV connection was centre-point and wire-and-bobbin steering. If you just call it "same mechanism" it would rule out a lot of interesting connections yet to come.
My point is that the change-speed mechanism involves belts in both but not in the same way - so it's not "same transmission" - you'd have to go to a modern CVT (or old Zenith-Gradua) for that.
Final drive in each case is by something else. (unlike some cyclecars (e.g. Bédélia) where that was the final drive and had nothing variable about it).
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the Bedalia/AV connection was centre-point and wire-and-bobbin steering. If you just call it "same mechanism" it would rule out a lot of interesting connections yet to come.
That's fine, I'll consider a "similarities in the steering mechanism" in order to alllow more "mechanism" connections. I did this way because I though that you all were bored of a neverending list of same-device links, but it you say so, it means that probably you will keep on guessing!
About your last one, I got your point, just trying once again to make a general connection, but I was wrong, nothing to do with a transmission, it was a change-speed mechanism. I will consider "similarities in the change-speed mechanism".
Techno-DAF F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
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Can the 1st car be the last one?
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Can the 1st car be the last one?
I'm sure it can be linked!
I'd do it myself, but that's not the way of this game, is it?
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The last one get the point, so, if you are the last one, there should be no-reason for you to continue it, even because the 30-days limit to get the score will start after your last post. On the other hand, one can try to lead the chain toward a car that is very obscure and hard to connect in order to end the game. I'm sure this is not your intention and that's why I will introduce a new rule: after 1 week without guesses, the last one can add a new car, linked to his previous. In this way, you can decide to wait one month or to change the last one every week in your advantage.
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Let's say Benz Velo and this 1971 Alpine A110 1300S, as they both had a rear-engined scheme. I think this connection has not been proposed yet?
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No, it has not!
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and What car? why?
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The Alpine could be linked to this 1957 DKW F94 Limousine, since both had Brazilian equivalents: the Willys do Brasil Interlagos, and the DKW-Vemag Belcar.
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Italian coachbuilder Fissore designed coachwork for DKW that was unique to the Brazilian market (below). Volkswagen also had an 'Italian' body unique to Brazil with the Karmann-Ghia TC (and VW ultimately became the owner of the DKW marque!). Hope this helps to keep things rooling.....
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Ah, lost the DKW Fissore pic, so here it is....
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Curses, this Fissore seems too shy to want to be seen! Hopefully third time lucky it will apear now....
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Excellent!
Before I get lost...
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific (Fissore's) coachwork for a country
Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and what car? why?
You are really good!
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VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952
Both have a name referring to three different manufacturers at the same time. (As TC stands for 'Touring Coupe', some might say there is even a fourth one here :) )
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This is very clever!
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 Both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
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1952 Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster and the 1960 Gordon GT
Both cars are the product of three countries, England, the USA, and Italy.
The Nash Healey has a chassis from England, a Nash engine from the USA, and the body was built by Pininfarina in Italy.
The Gordon GT has an English chassis, American Chevrolet engine, and a Bertone built body from Italy.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/GordonGT.jpg)
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It's incredible how many connections are out there!
1952 Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Continue this chain for 1 to 4 points use any connection but do not use these:
-Both cars have the same: builder,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engineer,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,
-Both cars: are one-off,
have one exceptional technical spec,
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
See pag.1 for the rules and pag.2 for the connections already used
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Let's try this:
The Gordon Keeble had Dunlop disc brakes and knock-off wheels.
The MGA Twin-cam had Dunlop disc brakes and knock-off wheels.
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OK, not sure I get what you mean for knock-off wheels, but..
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
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OK, not sure I get what you mean for knock-off wheels, but..
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
Knock-off wheels are what we call them when they are secured by a single eared nut which is tightened/loosened with a hammer.
This usually means Rudge-Whitworth splined hubs (and wire-spoked wheels), but in the case of the G-K and the MGA the Dunlop disc wheels have pegs to transmit the drive/braking.
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Thank you!
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MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964
Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model.
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Good!
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
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The Steyr-Puch 650 TR had an extended roof spoiler that enveloped the rear window to aide aerodynamics; an idea that was reintroduced in the early 1980s on the MG Metro with a spolier wrapping around the rear window.
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You mean "both cars have the same body style elements" like the fins in the Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 link?
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You mean "both cars have the same body style elements" like the fins in the Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 link?
That would assume that the aerodynamic effect was imaginary.
With most tailfins and with some "spoilers" that is undoubtedly true, but here I think we have effective devices rather than just "body styling".
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Ok, sometimes it happen that I do not get your connections right. You can help me writing them as simple as possible, like:
both cars have this and that, were made by this with that, etc etc, SO:
car1 make-model-year and car2 make-model-year because: the reason if few words.
In the short explaination of the reason try to be as generic as possible, do not use "both cars have extended spoilers to help aerodynamics" but something like "both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics" so that nobody else can post for example other 2 cars with other devices (pointed noses, covered wheels, ailerons, tonneau covers....) for the same reason.
@Djetset is this OK for you?
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 because both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
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1982 MG Metro and 1984 Peugeot 205GTI, both cars were the basis for racing cars, (group B rally cars, MG Metro 6R4 and Peugeot 205 T16).
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/1984Peugeot205GTI.jpg)
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OK, that is perfect!
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
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who's next?
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The 205 was called a 'sacré numéro' (holy number) in its adverts, so it could be linked to a Citroën DS (Déesse = Goddess) like this 1956 model because of the religious connotation...
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"Sacré numéro" was the name of a special version of the 205, available with 1124cc 60cv, 1360cc 75cv and 1580cc 89cv.
Can you define better your connection?
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 because?
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I didn't know it was only a special version of the 205... but even then:
There was a special version of the Peugeot 205 called "Sacré numéro", and because of this religious connotation it could be connected to this Citroën DS 1956 (Déesse = Goddess).
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Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1956 and what car? why?
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I know it may sound a bit strange, but Jaguar XK120 and Citroen DS share the same list of an international beauty contest. (amongst others..., but in this case I've picked the number two. So far there ain't no Jaguars on Paul's list if I've read correctly.)
Hope showing the link won't cause any problems: ;) http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2009/02/09-citroen-ds-most-beautiful-car/
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Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
(when possible: make, model, year and the picture of the car!)
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fixed: Jaguar XK120 Coupé 1954
(http://www.carspotting.de/userfiles/192/Jaguar-Jaguar-XK-120-Coup-LHD-1954-_1393.jpg)
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Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952. Both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design.
I mean Giovanni Savonuzzi’s famous Ghia Supersonic.
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I like this! (and also a perfectly written reply!)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952. Both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Supersonic by Savonuzzi)
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US currency is fiat...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/United_States_one_dollar_bill,_obverse.jpg/800px-United_States_one_dollar_bill,_obverse.jpg) :lmao:
Sorry, couldn't resist...
OK this is lame, but I am trying to warm up....
Fiat 8V 1952 and 1974 Chevrolet Impala both have fender skirts!
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-impala-1974-1.jpg)
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You mean "both cars have the same body style elements" like the fins in the "Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960" link or
"both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics" linke the spoilers in the Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 ?
both connections are out of the game...
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See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.
-Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,
-Both cars: are one-off,
have one exceptional technical spec,
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
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So "both have fender skirts!" doesn't count?
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I'm afraid it doesn't. When 2 cars were posted because both have tails, I considered a more generic connection, "both cars have the same body style elements", because this is a neverending chain, but there is no point in posting couples sharing each time a different part of the body. But, if you find another link between these 2 cars, will be ok, or you can pick another one!
I
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Graywolf? What am I supposed to do? according to the rules I should take away one of your points. Please don't let me do that, change your reply or find another car.
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OK, this one is open to all again, do not consider Graywolf connection, this is the last valid one:
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952. Both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Coppa_asti_spumante_1947.jpg)
Fiat 8V 1952 and this Cisitalia D46 were both designed by Dante Giacosa who worked for Fiat and used various Fiat parts on the D46.
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That is good!
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer
Cisitalia D46 1946 and what car? why?
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:scratch:
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Wasn't "same designer" already used?
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"Same engineer" (Porsche) and "designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second" (Boano) are the ones that are closer, but different.
I try to check each time in the list in the top of each page and in the reply n.43 in page 2. In this case, Giacosa could be considered as Porsche as an engineer, but He was also a designer and actually was involved in both project.
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We are in danger of having a discussion on whether an Engineer is a Designer.
Modern parlance seeems to regard the stylist as a "designer" where once men like Porsche, who were Engineers, designed cars.
Similarly modern Formula 1 drivers have their own "race engineer" who is probably a bit more than a mechanic, but possibly has no formal qualifications as an Engineer.
(don't get me started on the current UK practice of calling the man who comes to fix the washing machine and engineer)
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This is definitely a topic for men with big brains.
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I do prefer consider Porsche or Giacosa as engineers, and Michelotti or Martin designers. Usually (but it's not a rule) a designer is also an engineer but an engineer do not have to be a designer. Obviously an engineer who designs a car take into account other issues, and a pure designer can let his creativity go free. On the other hand this chain is yours, I just have to check each time your connections and update the list. "Same designer" was a new one and now it's over, so I accepted it. Sometimes this links are really thin, other times are open to different points of view and that's what I like about that. (btw: Otto, I miss yours connections...).
This is definitely a topic for men with big brains.
I don't think so: you can post a Fiat Panda and write "both cars have 4 wheels" because it's good. If you want, you can take a look to Cisitalia's story and find something relevant about his logo, and then the connection with another car maker will be easy. You can also remember that the D46 was... it's up to you to decide how deep you go, and it will be harder and harder in the future. Now Graywolf's point is out there, make your move.
Cisitalia D46 1946 and what car? why?
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By "big brains", I meant brains roomy enough to stack all the already used connections and remeber them when needed. For instance I am amazed that a connection as obvious as "same designer" hadn't been thought of yet after 11 pages of this game.
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At the top of each new page I post a list of all the connections updated and in the 2 page, reply n.43, I write the cars plus the connection. It's for you, if you think to a connection you just have to look at the top of the page and if you still have some doubts, in page 2 there is the detail of it. You will be surprise if you consider how many trivial connections are already there...no need to remember, take a look and make your try..
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For me, it was just dumb luck...I missed the part of the instructions where you couldn't use the same connection...
Can you follow up your own post?
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after 1 month without any reply, you earn your point (s) , so technically for you is not convenient to continue the chain but, if you want to, in order to lead the chain toward a very hard (4 points) connection, or if you just want to continue it, you can do that, but after 1 week without replies.
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Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947... Both were the first cars produced by their makers.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/bristol400.jpg)
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That's perfect!
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 Both were the first cars produced by their makers
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Bristol 400 1947 and 1910 A.L.F.A. 24 HP. Both of these initial offerings from fledgling brands had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin.
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That is good!
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 Both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
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The 1910 A.L.F.A. 24 hp and the 1986 Opel Omega, since both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name.
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That's OK!
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
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Opel Omega B and Holden VE Commodore. Derivatives of each platform were sold by as top-of-the-line Pontiac models in the US (Pontiac GTO and Pontiac G8, respectively)
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Holden VE Commodore Omega.jpg)
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Actually the last car is an Omega A, but that's fine (the Omega B is a derivate...).
Opel Omega 1986 and Holden VE Commodore 2007 both cars have a derivate sold by another manufacturer (Pontiac)
See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.
-Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
have one exceptional technical spec,
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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In the 30s Holden was just the Australian importer of GM cars (chassis), bt in 1936 Laurence Hartnett instigated plans for building a 'real' Australian car. This resulted in 1948 in the first Holden. But just before, Hartnett, the father of Holden, left GMH to start its own business, and he presented a car with his own name: the Hartnett, a 600 cc front wheel drive car with an aluminium body, based on a Grégoire prototype. Some 125 of these were built in 1951. So the Holden VE Commodore can be linked to the 1951 Hartnett, because the father of one make (the first) also created its own make (the second).
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I like this!
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
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It seems that Dynamike found an hard one!
6 days closer to your well deserved pointS.
Is anyone able to continue it?
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This turbine powered 1952 SOCEMA Gregoire was designed by the man (Jean Albert Gregoire) who's design inspired the Hartnett.
(http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/images/your_garage/cars/7597_98280001047fa6be974956.jpg)
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This is good!
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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What a beauty... ::)
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The SOCEMA Gregoire was the inspiration behind the fantastic fantasy comic strip Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 car.
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What a beauty... ::)
Eye of the beholder, etc...
That's long been one of my favorite 'what if' cars.
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SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and what car ? why?
Now it's interesting...
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Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ray Banana's Ford X-100: both cars are concept cars or prototype (imaginary for the Turbo and real for the X-100) used by comic books characters.
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I like your thinking Ray B. I was worried that the Turbo-Rhino 1 might have steered us into a cul-de-sac, or the next link would have been some wretched special-edition Suzuki Jimny. Good work!
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I like your thinking Ray B. I was worried that the Turbo-Rhino 1 might have steered us into a cul-de-sac, or the next link would have been some wretched special-edition Suzuki Jimny. Good work!
Me too!
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 (Ray Banana's) both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
How can we continue this?
Ford X-100 1953 and what car? why?
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No problemo. I am unbeatable when it comes to the Ford X-100. This car was also called the Continental X, and presented as a Lincoln. However, there is a mockup that logically predates it, called the Lincoln Typhoon. Is a mockup eligible for this chain?
If so I suggest: Ford X-100 and Lincoln Typhoon. The second car is a styling mockup that became the first car.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Typhoon.jpg)
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Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 The second car is a styling mockup that became the first car
Is this the final step?
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and what car? why?
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Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and 1976 Maserati Khamsin, because both cars have names after some sort of wind (we had already daughters and object/thing, but I guess a wind is nor a daughter, nor an object/thing)
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Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976, both cars are named after meteorological events
back to safe streets...
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Maserati Khamsin & Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow because they both used Citroen-patented hydropneumatic systems
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This will never end!!
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
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I am not very good at those things so PJ please tell if this suits:
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow and 1923 Lancia Lambda.
Silver Shadow was the first Rolls-Royce to have monocoque chassis while Lancia Lambda was the first car to feature a monocoque construction.
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Good!
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
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1923 Lancia Lambda and 1976 Volvo 244. The Volvo 244 was the first car equipped with a lambda sensor.
(http://www.geocities.com/ruudschols240/g244dl75.jpg)
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It's unbelievable how many different ways are out there to connect two different cars!
But I'm afraid this one is out of the game:
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
You have 24 hours to find another one for the same car or a new car.
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1923 Lancia Lambda and 1923 Audi Type K. The Lambda is named for the 11th letter of the Greek alphabet; The type K (in this case, an aerodynamic study from 1923) is named for the 11th letter of the Latin alphabet.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Audi_Type_K_1923_Audi_Photo-2009.jpg)
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The Audi Typ K that was illustrated was one of the first aerodynamic car bodies by one Paul Jaray, who had started his career as an aerodynamicist working on Zeppelin airships.
The Burney Streamline was designed (and produced ) by Sir Dennistoun Burney, who had been the Airship Guarantee Co.'s (which produced the R100) Managing Director
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3669.0;id=1569;image)
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The Burney Streamline (by Sir Dennistoun Burney of the Airship Guarantee Co) and the Maybach W1. Maybach was a supplier of Zeppelin (and railroad) engine, and was known as Luftfahrzeug-Motoreinbau GmbH" (literally "Airship Engine Company") until 1918.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Maybach W1.jpg)
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I can't miss a day!
1923 Lancia Lambda and 1923 Audi Type K both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets
1923 Audi Type K and 1932 Burney Streamline both designers started on airships
1932 Burney Streamline and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
when the game gets though...
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See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.
-Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are woodies
have one exceptional technical spec,
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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1923 Audi Type K and 1932 Burney Streamline the designer of the first car worked in the airships factory directed by the designer of the second
Er, no.
Paul Jaray worked on Zeppelin airships (Friedrichshafen, Germany) and Dennis Burney was MD of the Airship Guarantee Co. (Howden, England)
The link was simply that both designers started on airships.
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I'll fix that, thank you. Never heard of this Paul Jaray... ;D
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Euh...what's wrong with my Volvo 244 connection? (Reply #297)
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Euh...what's wrong with my Volvo 244 connection? (Reply #297)
This kind of connection (part of one car's name is also a name of a part that has been introduced for the first time in the other car) has already been used with:
1898 Renault Type A 1½ CV and 1929 Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint)
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The rules also say that I should take away one of your points if you do not change your wrong reply after 24 hours. But I will do that only when I think that the reply is not a serious one, or when it's just a shoot in the dark. You connection was good, but already used, that's why we move on and you will keep your points.
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Ok, new attempt:
Maybach W1 and 1967 Meccanica Maniero 4700.
Both have a badge featering a double 'M'
(http://www.italiansupercar.net/isc/components/com_mambospgm/spgm/gal/Indoor_Shows/2007/Auto_Moto_Epoca/Automotoepoca2007_237.jpg)
I hope this one is valid!
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D'oh! ;D
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This is valid and VERY original!
Maybach W1 and 1967 Meccanica Maniero 4700 Both have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
I think with this intuition you just open a new frontier....
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Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959. Both are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent.
The Michelotti-styled Meccanica Maniero was based on the Ford Mustang; Ascorts, built by the Continental Coachwork Ltd. of Sydney, Australia, had VW chassis.
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Perfect, and very nice picture!
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959. Both are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
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Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and 1958 TVR Grantura I
Both cars have a fibreglass body
(http://www.tvr-car-club.co.uk/images/archives/granturamk1_000.jpg)
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That is good!
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
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TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951. Both are standard production models named after the body manufacturer.
Of course, we can find many cars where the coachbuilder's name is part of the model name but, as those cars are in most cases special versions of some base model, only an additional part, like in, say, 'Bristol 406 Zagato'. What makes the two cars above special in this respect is that neither is a special; here the name of the coachbuilder is used as a standard model designation (from Grantura Plastics and Tickford Motor Bodies, respectively).
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I like this!
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951. Both are standard production models named after the body manufacturer.
[I have to say that since now, only 75america Ehhxekt DynaMike and neilshouse helps me writing the connections in this form: car-car-connection and the reason. Thank you, I really appreciate!
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I don’t know if this one will be valid but I give it a try:
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 (1966)
Both are from a brand that later on made a car in collaboration (without a merger) with another brand.
Special is (and this is the link) that each time both brand names appeared on the car. (Austin-Healey 3000 and VW-Porsche 914)
(http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/images/heritage/volkswagen_type_3.jpg)
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This is not the first connection between manufacturers and so it's OK.
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
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VW Typ 3 1966 and British Anzani Astra Utility 1956. Both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine.
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Anzani Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia . Both are ‘woodies’
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/75america/biscutercomercial.jpg)
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Biscuter Commercial Rubia 'Woodie' and 1983 Nissan Sentra (this one with extra wooden bits).
The Biscúter was the brain child of Gabriel Voisin, who was born in 1880. The Nissan was a product of a spinoff of the Nissan Konzerne. founded by Yoshisuke Aikawa, also born in 1880.
Connection: both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year (1880).
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Nissan Sentra.jpg)
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Good x 3!
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
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1983 Nissan Sentra and 2003 Chery Eastar. Both have the same code name (B11)
(http://www.thegioioto.com.vn/Autos/Data/Images/2008/01/21/01/TQ-2-070108.jpg)
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Alright!
1983 Nissan Sentra and 2003 Chery Eastar. Both have the same code name (B11)
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See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.
-Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are woodies
have one exceptional technical spec,
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have a type code shared with a thing\object
were the first cars produced by their makers
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
both cars are named after political offices
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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Chery's B11 platform cars, and the Citroen Bx. Each type code is shared with a B vitamin.
Vitamin B11: Pteryl-hepta-glutamic acid
Vitamin Bx: PABA (para-Aminobenzoic acid)
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/citroen-bx-91.jpg)
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Citroën BX and 1998 Daewoo Matiz.
Both cars have strong design resemblances with a prototype which was made for another company (and was rejected by them). (Citroën BX => 1979 Volvo Tundra, Daewoo Matiz => 1993 Fiat Cinquecento Lucciola)
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Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19-- and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company
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few days and 75america can post another link if He wants.
Does anybody want to continue it?
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few days and 75america can post another link if He wants.
Does anybody want to continue it?
Quite willing but as I know nothing of a Daewoo Matiz, I can't see a way to do so!
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There are few easy connections still available...
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1998 Daewoo Matiz and 1967 Simca 1100, as both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot), though virtually unchanged.
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That was not an easy one!
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
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1967 Simca 1100 and 1984 Seat Ibiza. Both company’s started car production with license built Fiat’s
(http://www.leon-concept.com/dossier/histoireseat/seat-ibiza1-1.jpg)
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Every time You guys remind me why I like this chain!
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
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Every time You guys remind me why I like this chain!
I’m addicted to this chain!
It’s only a pity that in the end, you can just earn a single (1) point.
There are faster puzzles to score a point.
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That's not true!
You can earn from 1 to 4 points!
I'll find out where I write this rule and post it here.
I'm preparing anothe chain, slightly different...
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This was the link suggested: "Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time"
As I barely begin to understand how this puzzle works, I realize that I don't understand AT ALL how the points count works!
I can help you in 3 way:
1- I try to explain that on the first page, Reply #13 , probably there are other 2 cars that can be linked because the name of one is the same of the part introduced with the second, like a Citroen Traction Avant and history's first FWD car, that's why 3 points. If there are 2 cars connected in a way only they can, it will worth 4 points;
2- Only the last one will get the point(s) so it's pure academic to define now if one connection is better than another and
3- I will decide at the end as I will find appropriate, always open to suggestions of course, but I'm sure the last one will be definitely a 3\4 points link!
For example, if now you post another French car, it is an easy link, 1 point. If you post another car with a SCAP engine, it's a bit harder, 2 points, if there exist a car named Art Cat, the anagram of Tracta is even harder, probably not many cars can be linked this way, 3 points. If you find out that the Tracta founder left his son drive this car and in that occasion he had a car accident with a Mochet Cyclecar driven by his son, well, that's a 4 points link!
1 point: easy link (same make, name, country, number of wheels) There are a lot of cars that can be matched like this.
2 points: not so easy link (same engine, designer, one is the development of the other,...) Not many cars can be matched like this
3 points: hard link. Very few cars can share this connection.
4 points: almost unic. Probably there won't be other 2 cars that shares this connection.
For example your last reply worth 3 points. I can't find many manufacturers that started building cars under the license of the same third manufacturer.
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Really great this chain, indeed :)
To Simca and Seat one could add Lada, Zastava and Polski-Fiat. These too started as Fiat assembly factories and eventually became car makers with their own models.
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Thank you, I'm glad you like it.
This is why I think this is a 3-point link: not unic but very hard!
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Really great this chain, indeed :)
To Simca and Seat one could add Lada, Zastava and Polski-Fiat. These too started as Fiat assembly factories and eventually became car makers with their own models.
You should say VAZ, Zastava and FSO, as Lada and Polski Fiat are only makes. But FSO started with licence-built Russian GAZ, not with Fiats.
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Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961, both cars are named after islands (in the Mediterranean Sea.)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/FordConsulCapri.jpg)
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I tell you this is never gonna end.
Since we are in the Mare Nostrum, what about this one:
1961 Ford Consul Capri and 1983 Buick Questor
Both cars named after political offices in the Roman Republic (I could have chosen the Opel Senator, but Questor has more pazazz).
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Ford Consul Capri and Opel Senator - both are named after Roman positions of authority in government
Hey ho, Ray beat me to it!
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Ford Consul Capri and Opel Senator - both are named after Roman positions of authority in government
Hey ho, Ray beat me to it!
And a 8:04:30 I wrote Opel Senator, then changed for the Questor. ;)
I had given up remebering all the already used connections long ago, but I was sure this one would make news.
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Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
:thumbsup:
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Not the most original link but I believe we have not used this one yet:
1983 Buick Questor 1983 and 1999 Oldsmobile recon. Both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
(http://www.carstyling.ru/resources/concept/99oldsmobile_recon_1.jpg)
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I told you, there are few easy connections left...one less (but this is a 2-point one)
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From now till 14th April the points will be doubled. So the last one can catch from 2 to 8 points!
(try to be as accurate as possible in your replies -make-model-year-reason-, probably I won't be much around these days)
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The Oldsmobile Recon concept and the Ford 24-7 Concept. Each proposed an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences. Ford actually made good on the proposal to some degree with the 2005 Mustang, and much more so with the current Fusion hybrid.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Ford-24-7.jpg)
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Ford 24.7 concept and this 1936 White Red Bus for Glacier National Park. Both had a removable canvas top.
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Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20-- and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
(the last one was dangerously close to the "both cars have the same body style elements" connection, but I'm feeling generous...)
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See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.
-Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are woodies
have one exceptional technical spec,
have only one official colour scheme
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
were the first cars produced by their makers
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
both cars are named after political offices
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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1936 White Red Bus for Glacier National Park and 1989 Alfa Romeo SZ
Both had only one official colour scheme.
(http://www.shorey.net/Auto/Italian/Alfa%20Romeo/SZ%20Zagato/1989%20Alfa%20Romeo%20SZ%20Coupe%20by%20Zagato%20f3q.jpg)
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Nice one!
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
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1989 Alfa Romeo SZ and 1967 Rover P6 BS. Both names contain an acronym referring to a different company.
SZ = Sport Zagato, BS = Buick Sport.
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that's really on the edge...
(both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers)
but it's a new one! ;)
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 Both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
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Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903
Both companies had their origins in producing versions of the Micheaux Velocipede.
Rowley Turner and James Starley founded the Coventry Machinists Co to make Micheaux cycles, which eventually developed into a cycle called Rover, after which the company was subsequently named.
Pierre Lallemont left Micheaux to go to the USof A wher he was granted a US patent for the Micheaux Velocipede. He sold this on to Albert Pope, founder of the Columbia Cycle Co. in Hartford, CT which later made electric and IC-engines motor vehicles
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that's really on the edge...
(both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers)
but it's a new one! ;)
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 Both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
I'm not the jury of this game...but I'm not sure this entry is valid.
Reason is that by my knowledge, there never was an official statement with the explanation where SZ stands for in the ES 30 car case.
For all other Alfa Romeo SZ type cars, it stood officially for 'Sprint Zagato'.
So most people assume that also in this case, it stands for Sprint Zagato. (Some exceptions like Ehhxekt think that it stands for 'Sport Zagato' but that sounds more like a Lancia name to me)
So, is there somewhere an official statement that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato?
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Your comments are always wellcome, because You are one of the most competent in automotive history I know.
No, I don't have (so far) an official source that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato and I'll look in some magazines, but in all Zagato's history there was a Z in the name that stood (sometimes officially) for Zagato. If your question is if it is official, I don't know, but I'm sure that's the intent. In the connection I wrote that there is an acronym that refers to a company and IMHO the Z refers to Zagato.
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1903 Columbia LX Electric Runabout and 1968 Autobianchi G.31
Both companies were created as a joint venture
Columbia => Pope Manufacturing Company and Electric Vehicle Company
Autobianchi =>Bianchi, Pirelli and Fiat
(http://www.autobianchi-club.nl/images/fotos/proto_primula_g31.jpg)
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Alright then:
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 Both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle
(I have to trust you on this because you know more than the Beaulieu! )
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 Both companies were created as a joint venture
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I'm not the jury of this game...but I'm not sure this entry is valid.
Reason is that by my knowledge, there never was an official statement with the explanation where SZ stands for in the ES 30 car case.
For all other Alfa Romeo SZ type cars, it stood officially for 'Sprint Zagato'.
So most people assume that also in this case, it stands for Sprint Zagato. (Some exceptions like Ehhxekt think that it stands for 'Sport Zagato' but that sounds more like a Lancia name to me)
So, is there somewhere an official statement that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato?
Your comments are always wellcome, because You are one of the most competent in automotive history I know.
No, I don't have (so far) an official source that the Z in SZ stands for Zagato and I'll look in some magazines, but in all Zagato's history there was a Z in the name that stood (sometimes officially) for Zagato. If your question is if it is official, I don't know, but I'm sure that's the intent. In the connection I wrote that there is an acronym that refers to a company and IMHO the Z refers to Zagato.
My information about the meaning of ’SZ’ may well be false – I admit it sounded to me so evident that I didn’t bother to check it. Now that my fragile entry is buried by two brilliant suggestions, I can only say I am sorry. Otherwise I would have proposed to go back to the Alfa and discard my last post.
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Nothing to be sorry about, if SZ do not stand officially for "whatsoever Zagato" there are strong elements (almost all the Zagato products) that suggest that the Z may refers to Zagato and your connection is valid. Allan suggestion is also valid but written in this form "Both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company " it fits well.
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Allan suggestion is also valid but written in this form "Both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company " it fits well.
Not mine: that link was from Ehhxekt
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I know, your comment about the origin of SZ is still valid, there is no official source about that, but Ehhxekt's link, written in that form, avoid the problem, because, I hope You agree, that Z if not stands for Zagato, it refers to it.
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I know, your comment about the origin of SZ is still valid, there is no official source about that, but Ehhxekt's link, written in that form, avoid the problem, because, I hope You agree, that Z if not stands for Zagato, it refers to it.
That was my comment, not Allan L's.
And yes, I agree that, although not proven, the Z in SZ most probably refers to Zagato (to what else?).
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I'm getting old!
I totally messed up your replies!
Whatever, sorry for the caos, let's proceed!
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Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 Both companies were created as a joint venture
Few days and 75america can add another link, or few weeks and He will get his points.....unless...
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Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) and Citroen Traction Avant. Both companies were at least partially owned by tire companies. Autobianchi was a joint venture of Bianchi, Pirelli and Fiat. In 1934, Citroen was taken over by its biggest creditor, Michelin.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/citroen ta.jpg)
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:thumbsup:
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 Both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 Both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies
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The action Avant shown in Otto Puzzell's picture is the very first 11 (later known as 11 Normale), built between September 1934 and January 1935 (longer wheel base than the earlier 7 and the 11 Légère, still signal horns on the bumper). So technically a 1934 car, though regarded as (early) 1935 model year.
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Thanks!
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1935 Citroen 11CV Traction Avant and 1998 Toyota Progres.
Both brands are named after their founders (name when they were born), but with a small change in the name.
Citroen => Citroën,
Toyoda => Toyota
(http://acars.ru/img.php?pic=models/phb_8187.jpg&size=400)
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Wasn't it 'Citroën' all the time?
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Wasn't it 'Citroën' all the time?
Nope, he was was born as citroen (a dutch name meaning lemon)
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André Citroën's grandfather (a dutchman) was called Limoenman (Lemon man) because he sold lemons. He changed his name to Citroen (Dutch for lemon) to make it sound 'less jewish'. When André's parents moved to Paris, they still used the name Citroen, but when André had to be registered to go to school, this name was not accepted, because it was 'unpronounceable', André's father suggested to change it to Citroën, and that was accepted. So when André Citroën started his company his name was Citroën for many years already...
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André Citroën's grandfather (a dutchman) was called Limoenman (Lemon man) because he sold lemons. He changed his name to Citroen (Dutch for lemon) to make it sound 'less jewish'. When André's parents moved to Paris, they still used the name Citroen, but when André had to be registered to go to school, this name was not accepted, because it was 'unpronounceable', André's father suggested to change it to Citroën, and that was accepted. So when André Citroën started his company his name was Citroën for many years already...
Yes, I know all of this. That's why I wrote: 'Name when they were born' in my link explanation.
It's up to the jury to decide if it is a valid connection...
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It wasn't my intention to doubt the validity of your link, 75america. In fact I think it is a nice find. :D
Even though I had another link and when I posted it I foun out that I was too late :(
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I said before, that's why I like this...even a well-known manufacturer like Citroen can have an odd story to be told..
Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders (name when they were born), but with a small change in the name
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Time for a summary:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19-- and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20-- and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 and Panhard Dyna Z 1956 the same man designed some adverts for both cars
Panhard Dyna Z 1956 and Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 and Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto)
Lancia Stratos 1972 and Chery A5 20-- both cars have one identical dimension (width)
Chery A5 20-- and Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 2005 both companies were sued for making knockoff’s( GM Chevrolet Spark and Fiat Panda)
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 20-- and Hillman Hunter 19-- both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
Hillman Hunter 19-- and Argyll Turbo GT 1976 both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
Argyll Turbo GT 1976 and Allard P1 1952 both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
Allard P1 1952 and Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
RR 20HP 1906 and Cottin & Desg. 12HP 1904 Both brands are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP 1924 and Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first
Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 and Jaguar XJ12 coupe 1977 Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 and Cheetah Coupe 2008 Both makers are named after members of the cat group of animals
Cheetah Coupe 2008 and Vaz Samara Tarzan ---- one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
VAZ Samara Tarzan ---- and Felber Excellence 1977 both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
Fisker Tramonto 2005 and Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports and Williams FW 08 1980 both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
Williams FW08 1980 and Eagle RV ---- both cars have a six-wheeled version
Eagle RV and Keller Super Chief Both were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
Keller Super Chief and the Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
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and the connections:
Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are in the same collection\museum\event
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
have a name that refers to modernity
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have racing versions built by the same company
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country
were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
were the first cars produced by their makers
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
are named after political offices
are named after polish heavy metal bands
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
won International competitions driven by their constructors
star in a film,
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
are named after both their founders, one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name before
are named after members of the cat group of animals
share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
were sued for making knockoff’s
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
had a model with similar power units at the same time
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the name of the engine
the name of the city founded,
the name of a special version of the other
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the circuit where it raced,
the driver of the second,
the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
incorporates the brand name of the other
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed some adverts for both cars
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
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::) We are supposed to find new links between cars, but not necessarily new cars, am I right?
So 1998 Toyota Progres could be linked to 1955 Citroën 11 B Traction Avant, since both cars have a model name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde).
And for the 1955 version of the Traction Avant, Alexis Kow made an advert design with the slogan "Vérité bien ancrée, la Traction dompte la force centrifuge" ("Well anchored truth, the Traction tames the centrifugal force"). The same Alexis Kow made many designs for Panhard adverts and brochores, like this one of a 1956 Dyna Z. So Traction can be linked to Dyna Z because the same designer made adverts of both cars.
(There could be made another link: the front ends of the unitary construction of the Traction are called 'jambonneaux' (little hams), and the taillights of the Dyna Z had the nickname 'couilles de rhinocéros' (rhino's testicles), both names referring to a part of an animal...)
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Time for a summary:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19-- and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20-- and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders (name when they were born), but with a small change in the name
Mr. Jaray, you have a lot of spare time, haven't you? ;D
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::) We are supposed to find new links between cars, but not necessarily new cars, am I right?
So 1998 Toyota Progres could be linked to 1955 Citroën 11 B Traction Avant, since both cars have a model name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde).
And for the 1955 version of the Traction Avant, Alexis Kow made an advert design with the slogan "Vérité bien ancrée, la Traction dompte la force centrifuge" ("Well anchored truth, the Traction tames the centrifugal force"). The same Alexis Kow made many designs for Panhard adverts and brochores, like this one of a 1956 Dyna Z. So Traction can be linked to Dyna Z because the same designer made adverts of both cars.
(There could be made another link: the front ends of the unitary construction of the Traction are called 'jambonneaux' (little hams), and the taillights of the Dyna Z had the nickname 'couilles de rhinocéros' (rhino's testicles), both names referring to a part of an animal...)
You are right...You can bring it back to a car already used.
Toyota Progres and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde).
Are you suggesting the next step?
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Mr. Jaray, you have a lot of spare time, haven't you? ;D
Actually I have a regular job too...but Yes, definetly enough spare time.
(BTW I just copied an old post I'm updating regulary)
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Yes, I made two steps in one comment...
1955 Citroën 11 B Traction Avant and 1956 Panhard Dyna Z There are adverts of both cars made by the same designer.
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But You can do that only after one week without replies. Otherwise you can lead the chain toward a car that you know will be very hard to connect.
Last valid:
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
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OK, didn't think about that. Sorry.
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1956 Panhard Dyna Z and the Ferrari 308 GTB. Both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel. The Dyna initially had aluminum bodywork, and switched to steel due to cost concerns. The Ferrari was first built with glass-reinforced plastic (or GRP) panels, and moved to steel later in the production run.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/308 gtb.jpg)
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But You can do that only after one week without replies. Otherwise you can lead the chain toward a car that you know will be very hard to connect.
Last valid:
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
If You agree, DynaMike, I'll accept Otto's connection. ( or you can let Otto use your link and You can use his...).
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Ferrari 308 GTB and Lancia Stratos. Both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto).
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Thank you! Now we can proceed!
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 and Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto)
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Forgot the years, sorry :) 1975 for Ferrari, 1972 for Lancia.
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Great that this chain, even after my faux-pas, continues :)
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Don't know if this fits, but
Lancia Stratos and Chery A5 are said to have the same width: 1750mm.
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Why not?
Lancia Stratos 1972 and Chery A5 20-- both cars have one identical dimension (width)
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André Citroën's grandfather (a dutchman) was called Limoenman (Lemon man) because he sold lemons. He changed his name to Citroen (Dutch for lemon) to make it sound 'less jewish'. When André's parents moved to Paris, they still used the name Citroen, but when André had to be registered to go to school, this name was not accepted, because it was 'unpronounceable', André's father suggested to change it to Citroën, and that was accepted. So when André Citroën started his company his name was Citroën for many years already...
Very interesting, I´ve asked a lot of people in which language is the name Citroën and nobody knows, now I learn here in AP :)
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So the text of the Brockbank cartoon is linguistically better than it looks after all!
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Indeed :)
'Citron Pressé' is also used as name for a rally only open to Citroëns (and Panhards).
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Chery A5 and 2005 Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY
Both companies were sued (e.g. GM Chevrolet spark =>Chery QQ and Fiat Panda => Changcheng Jingling) for making knockoff’s.
(http://car-cat.com/img/image4706.jpg)
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Nice one! And You are definetly moving towards hard ones...
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It seems we have a winner...
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The Nevering Chain is far too good to grind to a halt, so in the interests of keeping it moving, how about this for a tenous link;
Changcheng vehicles are made under licence in Iran under the DIAR brand name.
Another vehicle made under licence in Iran for many years was the Peykan, an Iranian version of the Rootes/Chrysler UK Arrow series (Hillman Hunter, Humber Sceptre Singer Vogue, etc.)
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I think it was called Paykan.
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You're right. My car knowledge is thankfully superior to my typing skills, which are lousy! It is of course Paykan.
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Good. Can you express your connection in the "carA - carB reason" form?
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No problem. Will this do below?
Changcheng DIAR and Paykan 1600
Both vehicles made under licence in Iran from an original car made elsewhere.
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Chery A5 and 2005 Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY
Both companies were sued (e.g. GM Chevrolet spark =>Chery QQ and Fiat Panda => Changcheng Jingling) for making knockoff’s.
(http://car-cat.com/img/image4706.jpg)
Your nex car should be related to the Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY...
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It is, as I've said it's built in licence by DIAR in Iran, as is/was the Paykan.
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Sorry, maybe I'm too slow this morning...I understood your link, but...
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY and ? why ?
You start with the DIAR and link it with the Paykan, but the last one is not the license-built version.
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No need to apologise and perhaps I'm the one that's being slow.
The Paykan was originally licence-built in Iran from a licencing agreement with the Rootes Group, signed in the mid-1960s. The Paykan example I illustrated was probably not the best image as it's a late model that doesn't quite resemble any of the many facelifted Hillman Hunters, but it was the only picture I could find in a rush. Perhaps I should have chosen another car built under licence in Iran, such as a Renault 5 or Citroen Dyane... I was just keen to keep the Chain moving, as it seemed to have dried-up after the Changcheng link, berhaps because the Hafo model illustrated was not the Jingling refered to in the link. Anyway, hopefully we can keep the Chain moving and growing...
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I'm glad that You want this chain to move, so let's do it well..
I know the PEYKAN (as it is reported in many sources) started with license-built Hillman.
I learnt now that Changcheng is built in Iran by DIAR.
The last car in this chain is the chinese-built Hafo CC 6460KY and the link was referred to the manufacturer and not the specific model.
Now, I'm asking, which car can be directly connected with the chinese Changcheng (the brand or the specific model, as You prefer)?
My suggestion can be an Hillman, because You found out that both models are built under license in Iran, but this is your call (and I have to check the connection already used...).
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Understood. As I said, I did this in a real rush bettwen meetings. So, let's go with the Hillman Hunter (as illustrated), which was also built under licence in Iran by Paykan (a.k.a Peykan) as is the Changcheng. So...,
The Changcheng is made in Iran by DIAR
The Hillman Hunter was/is (in pick-up form) made in Iran under licence by Paykan
So, both cars produced under licence in Iran from other manufacturers
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Perfect!
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 20-- and Hillman Hunter 19-- both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
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Ok, my first one finally, I hope I get it right :)
Hillman Hunter (1966-1979) and Argyll Turbo GT (1976-1990) - both cars share their model names with polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo).
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Ok, my first one finally, I hope I get it right :)
Hillman Hunter (1966-1979) and Argyll Turbo GT (1976-1990) - both cars share their model names with polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo).
:lmao:
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I didn't think I was going to contribute to this thread, but I'm going to take a shot now. If this doesn't qualify for some reason, then just scratch it & move on!
Argyll Turbo GT and Allard P1: Each make shares its name with a much earlier make from the same country.
(And if that's not specific enough, I believe both of the earlier makes started in 1899!)
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Ok, my first one finally, I hope I get it right :)
Hillman Hunter (1966-1979) and Argyll Turbo GT (1976-1990) - both cars share their model names with polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo).
I'm going to trust you about this :D !!
Hillman Hunter (1966-1979) and Argyll Turbo GT (1976-1990) - both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
I didn't think I was going to contribute to this thread, but I'm going to take a shot now. If this doesn't qualify for some reason, then just scratch it & move on!
Argyll Turbo GT and Allard P1: Each make shares its name with a much earlier make from the same country.
(And if that's not specific enough, I believe both of the earlier makes started in 1899!)
That's perfect and very specific!
Argyll Turbo GT and Allard P1: both manufacturers share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
This one is definetly a multi-point connection!
(even if the 2 Argyll are somewere considered the same brand...)
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Cool! But there's got to be a way to phrase that so it's clear that the earlier makes started in the same year as each other, but each in the same country as the later make.
(Saying the two Argylls are the same brand really sounds like a stretch, but then I didn't say "much earlier unrelated makes.")
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2005 Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY
(http://car-cat.com/img/image4706.jpg)
Isn't it a Great Wall Hover? Even the badge is the same.
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Great Wall is the export name of Changcheng vehicles.
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Cool! But there's got to be a way to phrase that so it's clear that the earlier makes started in the same year as each other, but each in the same country as the later make.
(Saying the two Argylls are the same brand really sounds like a stretch, but then I didn't say "much earlier unrelated makes.")
This is the hardest part for me!
Since all the makes are from Great Britain, no need to specify, about the 'same year', I'm open to suggestions, but I think we are clear....
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Although Argyll and Allard are both British, there is an important distinction as Argyll was from Scotland, whereas Allard was from England!
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Although Argyll and Allard are both British, there is an important distinction as Argyll was from Scotland, whereas Allard was from England!
Bingo! That's what I meant!
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The 1952 Allard P1 and the 1906 Rolls-Royce Light Twenty
Both won International competitions driven by their constructors (well more or less!)
Sydney Allard Drove an Allard P1 to win the Monte Carlo rally in 1952
The Hon C.S. Rolls drove a Rolls-Royce Light Twenty to win the 1906 Tourist Trophy
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Great Wall is the export name of Changcheng vehicles.
Got it, thanks for explanation.
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The 1952 Allard P1 and the 1906 Rolls-Royce Light Twenty
Both won International competitions driven by their constructors (well more or less!)
Sydney Allard Drove an Allard P1 to win the Monte Carlo rally in 1952
The Hon C.S. Rolls drove a Rolls-Royce Light Twenty to win the 1906 Tourist Trophy
That's another multi-point one!
Allard P1 1952 and Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
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1906 Rolls-Royce Light Twenty and 1924 Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP
Both brands are named after both their founders (Charles Stewart Rolls and Henry Royce - Cyrille Coutin and Pierre Desgouttes)
One of the founders of each company also produced cars under their own name (Royce and Desgouttes) before they founded the double-named brands with their partner.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c292/75america/1924Cottin-Desgouttes12hp.jpg)
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1906 Rolls-Royce Light Twenty and 1924 Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP both manufacturers are named after both their founders (Charles Stewart Rolls and Henry Royce - Cyrille Coutin and Pierre Desgouttes) one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name (Royce and Desgouttes) before they founded the double-named brands with their partner.
Wow, the game it's getting tough...
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No one dares?
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Let's try this:
Cottin & Desgouttes:
In 1907, the company also produced a 9.5-liter, 30 hp, six-cylinder model, as well as a 2.5 liter, 12 hp model that was so well accepted by the public that is was produced without any major changes for more than four years.
Prima (France):
1906-1909 Ste des Automobiles Prima, Levallois-Perret, Seine
These cars were made by Leon Lefebvre who had previously been responsible for the BOLIDE. In 1906/07 two models were listed, a 9hp single-cylinder and 10/12hp 4-cylinder, and for 1908 the single was joined by larger fours of 12/15 and 20hp. Eash type was available on three wheelbases, and wide range of bodies was offered, tourers, doctor's coupes, limousines, landaulets, delivery van and trucks. They had unit construction of engine and gearbox, which was very advanced for the time. Two cars were entered in the 1907 Coupe des Voiturettes that did not distinguish themselves.
source: Beaulieu Encyclopedia Of The Automobile
The link: Both companies manufactured a model with very similar power units at (almost) the same time.
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Can you specify?
1924 Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP and which car? Both companies manufactured a model with very similar power units at (almost) the same time
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Let's say with this one posted: 1906 Prima Type 3 (probably other engine - I don't really know)...
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Let's say with this one posted: 1906 Prima Type 3 (probably other engine - I don't really know)...
1924 Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP and 1906 Prima 12\15 HP Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
(so any C&D or Prima would fit, I supposre...)
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Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957. The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first.
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Good!
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first
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The 1957 Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera and 1977 Jaguar XJ12 Coupe. Both cars are factory-built two-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model,
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Nice one!
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1977 Jaguar XJ12 Coupe and 2008 Cheetah Coupe.
Both makers of these coupes are named after members of the cat group of animals
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Cool...
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Cheetah is also the name of Tarzan's chimp companion, in the Johnny Weissmuller films at least.
In "Tarzan and his mate" there is also a character named Tom Pierce ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025862/fullcredits#cast )
Before it became Pierce-Arrow, the famous brand's name was just Pierce.
So: 2008 Cheetah Coupe and 1907 Pierce Great Arrow 6 cyl.
Boths cars bear the name of characters from Tarzan movies (unfortunately I couldn't find a car named Jane or Tarzan).
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Eh, I found a car called Tarzan ;D
So here is a better and much funnier link. Let's forget the Pierce !
2008 Cheetah Coupe and Vaz Samara Tarzan: one car bears the name of the pet companion of the second.
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VAZ Samara Tarzan and Felber Excellence 1977 Both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times.
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It seems we have a winner...or not?
(Ehhxekt, if you want you can continue with another car now)
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Felber Excellence and 2005 Fisker Tramonto
Both cars are heavily based on production cars ‘Pontiac Firebird’ and ‘Mercedes SL 55 AMG’, most modifications concern the front and rear but both original cars are still clearly recognizable. On top of that, both have a V8 engine, are made in a limited production run (12 and 150 cars) and the brand name under which they were sold is named after the companies founder.
(http://image.automobilemag.com/f/auto_shows/frankfurt/6700107+w440/0509_frankfurt_019+2006_fisker_tramonto+front_side_view.jpg)
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Good. I know that this link is the sum of different connections, but I'll accept only the new ones, otherwise we will start again!! ;)
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
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The Fisket Tramonoto and the Aston Martin AMV8 Vantage.
Both cars were designed by the same man, Henrik Fisker.
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Here' the Aston.
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Time for a summary:
Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are in the same collection\museum\event
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
have a six-wheeled version
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have similarities in the suspension system
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
have a name containing the initials of the company owner
have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
have a name that refers to modernity
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have racing versions built by the same company
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country
were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
were the first cars produced by their makers
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
are named after political offices
are named after polish heavy metal bands
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
won International competitions driven by their constructors
star in a film,
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
are named after both their founders, one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name before
are named after members of the cat group of animals
share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
were sued for making knockoff’s
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
had a model with similar power units at the same time
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the name of the engine
the name of the city founded,
the name of a special version of the other
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the circuit where it raced,
the driver of the second,
the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
incorporates the brand name of the other
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed some adverts for both cars
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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The Fisket Tramonoto and the Aston Martin AMV8 Vantage.
Both cars were designed by the same man, Henrik Fisker.
I'm afraid this one is not valid...find another connection that is not in the list above..
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I'm not sure I understand why the Fisker/Aston Martin link is not vaid as my connection is not on the list. However, if it isn't valid it isn't valid, so l then I propose the following;
Fisker Tramonto and Alpina B6 GT3.
Both cars are modified versions of the BMW 6-Series on which they are based.
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Not on the list ???
Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
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You beat me to it!
Thanks Ray, and I'm afraid you mean the Latigo CS, the Tramonto is based on a Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG.
Dont' give up! ;)
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Ignore me, I'm having an exceptionally bad day in the office and my mid isn't thinking straight!
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This is the last one...
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
75america, if you want you can add another link, if not in few days you'll be the winner....or not?
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Fisker Tramonto 2005 and Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports.
Fisker Coachbuild designed a high end men’s watch for Danish company Rosendahl.
The K.O.7 was inspired by the TAG Heuer Grand Carrera watch, and has one mounted in its instrument panel.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/ko7.jpg)
Connection: the designer of the first car was retained to design a watch, because the watchmaker was inspired by Fisker's cars. The designer of the second car was 'inspired' by a watch, which he incorporated into his car.
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Cool!
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Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports and Williams FW 08 1980.
Both cars names include the initials of the company owner, (KO - Ken Okuyama, FW - Frank Williams).
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/FW08.jpg)
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Another good one!
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Williams FW 08 and Eagle RV
There's a six-wheeled version of both cars
(http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/1-/1-43-scale-143-scale-williams-ford-fw08-6w--6-wheeler-ltd-ed-.jpg)
(http://www.eaglekitcars.co.uk/images/Magazines/6wheel_RV1.jpg)
(my first post in this thread, hope I'm understanding it correctly)
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That's perfect!
Williams FW08 1980 and Eagle RV ---- both cars have a six-wheeled version
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Eagle RV and the Keller Keller Super Chief.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/RP429.jpg)
Both were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration.
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This is definetly a multi-point connection!
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This one won't be so easy to connect to another car...
Who want to try?
(Otto, if you want, you can continue with another link now)
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This one won't be so easy to connect to another car...
Who want to try?
(Otto, if you want, you can continue with another link now)
Here's one: Both the Keller Super Chief and the Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 use rubber torsion springs
(http://www.cy-car.com/Images/TigerCatFront.jpg)
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I'd prefer a real car...was it ever completed?
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I'd prefer a real car...was it ever completed?
It's being built, but not completed yet: http://www.cy-car.com/Chapter13.html
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Alright then!
Keller Super Chief and the Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
It's getting tough,,,
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It seems that we have a winner...
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and what car? why?
(guido66, if you want you can continue with another car)
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It seems that we have a winner...
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and what car? why?
(guido66, if you want you can continue with another car)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and the Australian-built Hot Rod Hawg. THough both are powered by motorcycle engines, I'm pretty sure we've used that before. The connection is each is designed and built with no engine cover.
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We used before a similar link,
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
But we never used 'both are powered by motorcycle engines' !
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I'm pretty sure we used "similar suspension" before, too. But I'll gladly take the bike engine credit ;D
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We had this:
'Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system'
but your connection is perfect.
Here we go again:
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
Who will find the next?
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Let's sum up:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 (first car with CV joint) 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX 19-- and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept 20-- and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 and Panhard Dyna Z 1956 the same man designed some adverts for both cars
Panhard Dyna Z 1956 and Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 and Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto)
Lancia Stratos 1972 and Chery A5 20-- both cars have one identical dimension (width)
Chery A5 20-- and Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 2005 both companies were sued for making knockoff’s( GM Chevrolet Spark and Fiat Panda)
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 20-- and Hillman Hunter 19-- both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
Hillman Hunter 19-- and Argyll Turbo GT 1976 both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
Argyll Turbo GT 1976 and Allard P1 1952 both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
Allard P1 1952 and Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
RR 20HP 1906 and Cottin & Desg. 12HP 1904 Both brands are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP 1924 and Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first
Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 and Jaguar XJ12 coupe 1977 Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 and Cheetah Coupe 2008 Both makers are named after members of the cat group of animals
Cheetah Coupe 2008 and Vaz Samara Tarzan ---- one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
VAZ Samara Tarzan ---- and Felber Excellence 1977 both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
Fisker Tramonto 2005 and Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports and Williams FW 08 1980 both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
Williams FW08 1980 and Eagle RV ---- both cars have a six-wheeled version
Eagle RV and Keller Super Chief Both were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
Keller Super Chief and Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
Hot Rod Hawg and Humber Royal Humberette 1904 both cars names have the same initials (HRH)
Humber Royal Humberette 1904 and Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 both cars have a model name that is a diminuitive of the make
Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 and Chevrolet El Camino 1970 both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Chevy El Camino SS 1970 and Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations (SS - HJ)
Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 and Citroën GS 1971 both cars were available with a Wankel engine
Citroën GS 1971 and Opel G90 -- both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
Opel G90 and the Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
Pininfarina Rossa 2000 and Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car 1958 both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
Hongqi CA72 1958 and the UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow and 1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse Both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse and the Ford Model T Each is commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
Ford Model T and Austin 7 both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
Austin Seven and Dixi 3/15 one car was the mirror image of the other
DIXI 3/15 and the Volvo ÖV 4 both makers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
Volvo ÖV 4 and Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jakob and Lincoln MKR Concept both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
Lincoln MKR 2007 and Ford Thunderbird 2002 one car was built upon the platform (Ford DEW) which has become the basis for the other car's platform (FORD D2C)
Ford Thunderbird 2002 and Gatsby Griffin both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
Gatsby Griffin and Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 both cars have names related to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 and Lancia Delta HF Integrale both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v and Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 both cars debuted in the same event
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 and Connaught B both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
Connaught B and Scania A1 1901 the same person have both cars names in his titles
Scania A1 1901 and Gaz 18 Both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).
Hanomag 1.3 and Adler 2.5 liter 1937 both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Adler 2.5 liter 1937 and Mercedes-Benz 540 K 1938 both cars have a nickname containing the same word
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and:
Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
are in the same collection\museum\event
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
have motorcycle engines
have a six-wheeled version
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have similarities in the suspension system
have equivalents in other countries
have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name referring to a lack of light
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
have a name containing the initials of the company owner
have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
have a name containing the name of the same colour
have a name with the same initials
have a name that refers to modernity
have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have racing versions built by the same company
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country
were produced in the same countries
were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
were the first cars produced by their makers
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
were available with a Wankel engine
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
are named after political offices
are named after polish heavy metal bands
are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
won the same award
won International competitions driven by their constructors
star in a film,
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
is the mirror image of the other
is a hot rod tribute to the other one
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
are named after both their founders, one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name before
are named after members of the cat group of animals
share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
were sued for making knockoff’s
were the car building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
had a model with similar power units at the same time
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the name of the engine
the name of the city founded,
the name of a special version of the other
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the circuit where it raced,
the driver of the second,
the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
incorporates the brand name of the other
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed some adverts for both cars
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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Is this the end?
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
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Not sure if this will be accepted or not, but.....
Hot Rod Hawg and Humber Royal Humberette 1904 , both cars names have the same initials (HRH).
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e175/neilshouse/HumberRoyalHumberette.jpg)
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Why not?
It's original and very good!
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1904 Humber Royal Humberette and 1957 Citroën 2CV Citroneta
Both cars have a model name that is a diminuitive of the make.
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It's amazing how you can find all these connections!
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1957 Citroën 2CV Citroneta and 1970 Chevy El Camino.
Both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered.
(http://www.tremek.com/gallery/data/503/medium/0702ch_01_z_1970_chevrolet_el_camino_ss_.jpg)
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Another good one!
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1970 Chevy El Camino SS and 1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice.
Both cars use historically contaminated abbreviations (SS - SchutzStaffel; HJ - HitlerJugend)...
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it make sense.... :)
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1970 Chevy El Camino SS and 1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice.
Both cars use historically contaminated abbreviations (SS - SchutzStaffel; HJ - HitlerJugend)...
:o :lmao:
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plesae, don't let this one be the final one!
1970 Chevy El Camino SS and 1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice Both cars use historically contaminated abbreviations
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plesae, don't let this one be the final one!
1970 Chevy El Camino SS and 1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice Both cars use historically contaminated abbreviations
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May I ?
1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice and 1971 Citroën GS...
Both have been available (though slightly altered) with a Wankel engine (as Mazda Roadpacer and Citroën GS Birotor)
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I believe that your link has already been used, Dynamike, but I'll let Paul be the judge of that.
I the meantime I propose another one:
Citroën GS and Vespa 400: both have been, at a time, the proud possession of my former neighbour, Yves Almanzo, who resided 66 rue du Clos Hutin, Clamart, 92, France.
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I wasn't sure about the validity of my link, indeed (I got a bit lost in what links we've had until now...), but yours is really great, Ray :lmao:
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Yes, but it's phony. ;D There is no Rue du Clos Hutin in Clamart (although there is one in Evreux, Normandy).
Of course I could try to remember which one of my neighbours possessed a GS, and what other car was, before and after, his pride and joy, but I am too lazy for this.
By the way, I have noticed that these relatively old Citroëns have their unconditional lovers. In a village next to where I live, a man has about eight GS rotting in his yard, and I've witnessed that with the CX also.
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May I ?
1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice and 1971 Citroën GS...
Both have been available (though slightly altered) with a Wankel engine (as Mazda Roadpacer and Citroën GS Birotor)
Perfect!
I believe that your link has already been used, Dynamike, but I'll let Paul be the judge of that.
I the meantime I propose another one:
Citroën GS and Vespa 400: both have been, at a time, the proud possession of my former neighbour, Yves Almanzo, who resided 66 rue du Clos Hutin, Clamart, 92, France.
It's not in the list above so it is valid...
About your connection, Ray, I can see that you are not a fan of this game, but I don't think you will appreciate in your (very cool but for me unaffordable) 'art and cars' thread something like "Hey, I know him, that's my uncle Paolo, He currently drives a Ford Fiesta".. ;)
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Hey, don't get me wrong, Paul: I have no grudge against this thread, and if there was some wit to my reply, it was friendly wit. I stopped playing at a time because I found it a bit boring to check all the already used connections (although you've remedied this). And, true, because I felt this was going towards connections as thin as the one I've proposed.
But I can appreciate a comic relief and I think I may have laughed myself sick if you had posted this "uncle Paolo" reply.
By the way: didn't you solve, and brilliantly, at least one of those "unaffordable" art and cars puzzles? Nothing is unaffordable to a good sleuth.
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I't s fine...but it's easy to verify the connections from my list above, it takes few seconds..if the connection in your mind is between 2 cars, just check "both cars"...if it is something that they have in common "both cars heve the same" if it's about the manufacturers "both manufacturers" and so on...
About the consistance of them, it's up to you, you can prove your deep knowledge on a car (and someone really did) or just find something trivial...the only rule is that the connection have to define the car, that's why 2 white cars are not allowed (unless it was the only color available for they)...the easier way is to have a try.
1975 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice and 1971 Citroën GS both cars were available with a Wankel engine
Citroën GS 1971 and what car? why?
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It may sound trivially, but think we hadn't that before:
Citroën GS and Opel G90:
both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths.
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I think this 'Both cars have one exceptional technical spec' is quite different, so that's good!
Who will be next?
Citroën GS 1971 and Opel G90 -- both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
Opel G90 -- and what car? why?
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Opel G90 and the Pininfarina Rossa. Both cars were winners of the Automotive News International "Concept Car of Year" award.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Pininfarina Rossa.jpg)
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Perfect, and very nice car...
Opel G90 and the Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
Pininfarina Rossa and what car? Why?
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2000 Pininfarina Rossa and 1958 Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car Both cars have the colour Red in their name (rossa = red, hongqi = red flag)
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2000 Pininfarina Rossa and 1958 Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
1958 Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car and what car? why?
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1958 Hongqi CA72 and the UOP Shadow race car.
Each shares its name designation with a motorcycle made by Honda.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/UOP Shadow.jpg)
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1958 Hongqi CA72 and the UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow and what car? why?
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Otto, you can continue with another car,if you want.
1958 Hongqi CA72 and the UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow and what car? why?
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Is this still valid:
UOP Shadow and 1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse Both cars have a name that means in some way a lack of light...
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UOP Shadow and 1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse Both cars have a name referring to a lack of light...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLSCJmOIIJI
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I have no sound on my computer... but this was very thin ice, wasn't it? I guess that's a result of the global warming...
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But you're keeping this chain going...so it's OK!
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1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse and the Ford Model T
Each is commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind. Peugeot's retractable hardtop, "invented" by Georges Paulin, was preceded by Ben Ellerbeck's design as affixed to the Hudson Six in 1922. While Ford Ford's model T production techniques radically improved mass-production techniques, it was not the first car built on an assembly line. Ransom Eli Olds introduced assembly line production in 1902.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1914 model t.jpg)
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I like this...
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Let's see if this one works?
The Ford Model T and Saab 99 Turbo.
Both cars are famously (but incorrectly) known for only being available in one colour; black.
The Ford was offered in a wide range of colours (although most were black), and at launch the Saab 99 Turbo Combi Coupe could be ordered in metallic green or burgandy, as well as black (with black being by far the most popular colour choice). Later two-door 99 Turbo models could also be had in white and red, as well as black.
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-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are in the same collection\museum\event
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
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I wasn't sure that one worked, which is why I didn't attach an image of the Saab. So, back to the Ford Model T and...
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... Ford Model T and Austin 7.
Versions of both of these 'peoples' cars were produced in the same countries; the USA, Great Britain, France and Germany.
The Ford was built in many overseas plants, including Manchester (UK) and Cologne (Germany). For the Austin this was made as the Bantam (USA), Austin (UK), Rosengart (France) and Dixi BMW (Germany).
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It seems that we have a winner....or not?
The Ford Model T and Austin 7 both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
Austin 7 and what car? why?
(We already had this..'both cars were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country' but I think this is slightly different)
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Am I allowed to suggest that the Austin Seven and the Dixi 3/15 were actually mirror images of each other?
The Dixi not only had left-hand-drive but the engine was mirrored left-to-right as were the pedal mechanisms, etc
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This one sounds like a great new conncetion, Allan.
Austin Seven and Dixi 3/15 one car was the mirror image of the other
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DIXI 3/15 and the Volvo ÖV 4
The maker of each car - each of which was a the car-building arm of a company with a three-letter name - chose to name their cars with a Latin first-person statement.
BMW's DIXI = "I have spoken"
SKF's Volvo = "I roll"
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Another good one!
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Anybody?
It seems that this chain is over...
Volvo ÖV 4 and what car? why?
I know there are still some easy connections left...
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I don't know if we already had this one but:
Volvo ÖV 4 and Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob. The second one is a hot rod tribute to the first one.
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2008/03/17-hot-rod-jakob/_Hot-Rod-Jakob-1.jpg)
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Cool!
and here we go again!
Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob and what car? why?
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Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jakob and Lincoln MKR Concept
Both feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo.
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Alive and kicking...
Another good one!
Lincoln MKR Concept and what car? why?
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A couple of weeks and we will have a winner...unless someone finds a car to link to a Lincoln MKR Concept...
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It's really hard now to browse through already used connections, but let's try this one.
2007 Lincoln MKR & 2002 Ford Thunderbird - the latter was built on a Ford DEW platform, which has later become a basis for Ford D2C platform, used for an MKR. So, the connection is:
One car is built upon the platform which has become a basis for another car's platform.
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It's really hard now to browse through already used connections,...
I'll take care of that....
It's really hard now to browse through already used connections, but let's try this one.
2007 Lincoln MKR & 2002 Ford Thunderbird - the latter was built on a Ford DEW platform, which has later become a basis for Ford D2C platform, used for an MKR. So, the connection is:
One car is built upon the platform which has become a basis for another car's platform.
Perfect.
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Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
type of doors
tires
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
are in the same collection\museum\event
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
have motorcycle engines
have been replaced by an EVO version
have a Beetle based replica
have a six-wheeled version
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have similarities in the suspension system
have equivalents in other countries
have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name referring to a lack of light
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
have a name containing the initials of the company owner
have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
have a name containing the name of the same colour
have a name with the same initials
have a name that refers to modernity
have a name related to novels by the same author
have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
have a nickname containing the same word
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have racing versions built by the same company
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country
were produced in the same countries
were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the last passenger car models of the companies
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
were available with a Wankel engine
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
were designed by designers who started on airships
debuted in the same event
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
are named after political offices
are named after polish heavy metal bands
are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
are named after a mythological flying creature
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
won the same award
won International competitions driven by their constructors
star in a film,
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
is the mirror image of the other
is a hot rod tribute to the other one
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
is built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
are named after both their founders, one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name before
are named after members of the cat group of animals
are better known for their commercial vehicles
share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
were sued for making knockoff’s
were the car building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
had a model with similar power units at the same time
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the name of the engine
the name of the city founded,
the name of a special version of the other
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the circuit where it raced,
the driver of the second,
the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
incorporates the brand name of the other
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed some adverts for both cars
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
person had both cars names in his titles
object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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How about: both cars have a porthole window?
2002 Ford Thunderbird and 1st generation Daihatsu Charade
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I like this but is like that:
Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
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It's your puzzle, so you decide ;)
I'll have another go then:
Ford thunderbird and Gatsby Griffin: both are named after a mythological flying creature.
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Another good one!
Ford Thunderbird and Gatsby Griffin both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
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I'll try again:
Gatsby Griffin and 2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon
as both cars have names related to novels by Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald: 'The Great Gatsby' and 'The Last Tycoon'.
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Very well!
Gatsby Griffin and 2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon both cars have names related to novels by Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald: 'The Great Gatsby' and 'The Last Tycoon'
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Who will continue?
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All right then:
Trident Tycoon and Peel Trident:
Both cars were made by (separate) companies owned by Bill Last (Suffolk TVR dealer who made the Trident marque but who also bought Peel Engineering and made the Peel Trident in Cambridgeshire somewhere!)
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Great!
Next?
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Aren't we missing something here?
Where is the kink between the 2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon en the Trident Tycoon?
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:bag:
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Aren't we missing something here?
Where is the kink between the 2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon en the Trident Tycoon?
The name? Won't that do?
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75america is right.
You should post a connection between '2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon' and another car, and it can't be 'Trident Tycoon' for the name, because we already had the 'both cars have the same model's name' connection.
So, who will be next?
2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon and what car? why?
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All right; have to admit I didn't read all 22 pages hence missed that the connection had already been used up..
Sorry.
Will you delete mine or what?
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No need to read 22 pages, just the top of this ;).
You can find another connection between a '2009 Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon' and any other car, or you can just pass.
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How about Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon and the Lancia Delta HF Integrale? Both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
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Perfect.
Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon and Lancia Delta HF Integrale Both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
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Lancia Delta HF Integrale and Lancia Fulvia - both cars won the San Remo Rally.
I believe "racing cars winning races" as a connection has not been used previously.
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There was a 'both cars won the same race' connection already used. :-\
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Ooops, I am blind, sorry :'(
Now, how about shows? I have tried to be more careful this time.
1989 Geneva Show: debut of the Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v and the Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2
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In case this connection goes in, I have a question: should I connect the next car to Uno Turbo Mk2 exactly or can I use simply Fiat Uno connection?
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OK, I have found another connection, so that question does not matter much now :)
How about this?
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 - Connaught B - both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres.
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Ooops, I am blind, sorry :'(
Now, how about shows? I have tried to be more careful this time.
1989 Geneva Show: debut of the Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v and the Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2
This one wasn't used before!
OK, I have found another connection, so that question does not matter much now :)
How about this?
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 - Connaught B - both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres.
another good one!
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Lets try this: Connaught B and Gilbern Genie: both were the 2nd model of their make, out of 3 produced models
(Connaught A, B and C, Gilbern GT, Genie and Invader)
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I like this, but weren't there also a Connaught L1, L2 that became L3 and D-type?
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While we wait Guido66 to do his checks, let's proceed:
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 and Connaught B both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
Connaught B and what car? why?
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Let's try this: Connaught B and 1901 Scania A1 because Her Royal Highness Princess Margaret of Connaught (Margaret Victoria Charlotte Augusta Norah) became by marriage to Prince Gustaf Adolf of Sweden in 1905: Her Royal Highness Princess Margareta of Sweden, Duchess of Scania...
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That is impressive.
How can I write the same in few words? :'(
Connaught B and 1901 Scania A1 because ...that is hard! ;D
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:D ... because they are linked by two successive names of one single person of high nobility ???
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Scania A1 and GAZ-18:
(http://denisovets.narod.ru/gaz/gazprototips/GAZ18_1.jpg)
Both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles.
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I can't see the picture, but I see the connection!
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GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. Both have 2 suicide doors.
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:thumbsup:
GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. Both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).
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Hanomag 1.3 and Adler 2.5 liter - both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies. It has to be also added that both companies ttried to return to passenger car production after the 2nd World War, but only prototypes were built:
(http://www.ritzsite.nl/Archive/Adler_2,5_Liter_cabriolet_by_Karmann_1938.jpg)
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1937 Adler 2.5 liter and 1938 Mercedes-Benz 540 K because both have 'Autobahn' in their nickname (Adler Autobahn / Mercedes-Benz Autobahnkurier).
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GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).
Hanomag 1.3 and Adler 2.5 liter 1937 both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Adler 2.5 liter 1937 and Mercedes-Benz 540 K 1938 both cars have a nickname containing the same word
Mercedes-Benz 540 K 1938 and what car? why?
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Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11(first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
RR Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
RR Silver Shadow and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 and Panhard Dyna Z 1956 the same man designed some adverts for both cars
Panhard Dyna Z 1956 and Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 and Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto)
Lancia Stratos 1972 and Chery A5 20-- both cars have one identical dimension (width)
Chery A5 and Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 2005 both companies were sued for making knockoff’s( GM Chevrolet Spark and Fiat Panda)
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY and Hillman Hunter 19-- both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
Hillman Hunter and Argyll Turbo GT 1976 both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
Argyll Turbo GT 1976 and Allard P1 1952 both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
Allard P1 1952 and Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
RR 20HP 1906 and Cottin & Desg. 12HP 1904 Both brands are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP 1924 and Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first
AR 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 and Jaguar XJ12 coupe 1977 Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 and Cheetah Coupe 2008 Both makers are named after members of the cat group of animals
Cheetah Coupe 2008 and Vaz Samara Tarzan ---- one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
VAZ Samara Tarzan and Felber Excellence 1977 both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
Fisker Tramonto 2005 and Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports and Williams FW 08 1980 both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
Williams FW08 1980 and Eagle RV both cars have a six-wheeled version
Eagle RV and Keller Super Chief Both were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
Keller Super Chief and Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
Hot Rod Hawg and Humber Royal Humberette 1904 both cars names have the same initials (HRH)
Humber Royal Humberette 1904 and Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 both cars have a model name that is a diminuitive of the make
Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 and Chevrolet El Camino 1970 both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Chevy El Camino SS 1970 and Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations (SS - HJ)
Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 and Citroën GS 1971 both cars were available with a Wankel engine
Citroën GS 1971 and Opel G90 both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
Opel G90 and Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
Pininfarina Rossa 2000 and Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car 1958 both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
Hongqi CA72 1958 and UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow and Peugeot 402 Eclipse 1937 both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse and Ford Model T Each is commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
Ford Model T and Austin 7 both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
Austin Seven and Dixi 3/15 one car was the mirror image of the other
DIXI 3/15 and Volvo ÖV 4 both makers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
Volvo ÖV 4 and Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jakob and Lincoln MKR Concept both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
Lincoln MKR 2007 and Ford Thunderbird 2002 one car was built upon the platform (Ford DEW) which has become the basis for the other car's platform (FORD D2C)
Ford Thunderbird 2002 and Gatsby Griffin both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
Gatsby Griffin and Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 both cars have names related to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 and Lancia Delta HF Integrale both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v and Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 both cars debuted in the same event
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 and Connaught B both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
Connaught B and Scania A1 1901 the same person have both cars names in his titles
Scania A1 1901 and Gaz 18 Both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).
Hanomag 1.3 and Adler 2.5 liter 1937 both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Adler 2.5 liter 1937 and Mercedes-Benz 540 K 1938 both cars have a nickname containing the same word
Mercedes 540K 1938 and Hummer H1 both have a Beetle based replica (Isdera Autobahnkurier and Humbug)
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Mercedes 540K 1938 and Hummer H1, both have been "honored" by a Beetle based replica (Isdera Autobahnkurier and Humbug)
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The Isdera is beetle based?
That's a cool one!
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The Isdera uses that part of the Beetle that all other replica builders throw in the bin: the basic structure of the passenger comparment, the doors and rear side windows.
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This is an interesting connection indeed. :thumbsup:
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Hummer H1 and the Willys Jeep CJ2A. Each was a slightly modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/CJ2A.jpg)
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Perfect!
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Willys Jeep CJ2A and 1948 Jicey F2 because both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters: G.P. (general purpose) and J.C. (Jean Caillas, the name of the founder).
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Now is getting interesting...
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1948 Jicey F2 and Lotus Elise: they both have a aluminium box section chassis, joined in a (at that time) very innovative way. The Jicey had a welded frame, the Elise a bonded one.
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Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11(first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
RR Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
RR Silver Shadow and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 and Panhard Dyna Z 1956 the same man designed some adverts for both cars
Panhard Dyna Z 1956 and Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 and Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto)
Lancia Stratos 1972 and Chery A5 20-- both cars have one identical dimension (width)
Chery A5 and Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 2005 both companies were sued for making knockoff’s( GM Chevrolet Spark and Fiat Panda)
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY and Hillman Hunter 19-- both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
Hillman Hunter and Argyll Turbo GT 1976 both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
Argyll Turbo GT 1976 and Allard P1 1952 both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
Allard P1 1952 and Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
RR 20HP 1906 and Cottin & Desg. 12HP 1904 Both brands are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP 1924 and Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first
AR 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 and Jaguar XJ12 coupe 1977 Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 and Cheetah Coupe 2008 Both makers are named after members of the cat group of animals
Cheetah Coupe 2008 and Vaz Samara Tarzan ---- one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
VAZ Samara Tarzan and Felber Excellence 1977 both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
Fisker Tramonto 2005 and Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports and Williams FW 08 1980 both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
Williams FW08 1980 and Eagle RV both cars have a six-wheeled version
Eagle RV and Keller Super Chief Both were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
Keller Super Chief and Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
Hot Rod Hawg and Humber Royal Humberette 1904 both cars names have the same initials (HRH)
Humber Royal Humberette 1904 and Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 both cars have a model name that is a diminuitive of the make
Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 and Chevrolet El Camino 1970 both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Chevy El Camino SS 1970 and Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations (SS - HJ)
Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 and Citroën GS 1971 both cars were available with a Wankel engine
Citroën GS 1971 and Opel G90 both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
Opel G90 and Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
Pininfarina Rossa 2000 and Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car 1958 both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
Hongqi CA72 1958 and UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow and Peugeot 402 Eclipse 1937 both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse and Ford Model T Each is commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
Ford Model T and Austin 7 both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
Austin Seven and Dixi 3/15 one car was the mirror image of the other
DIXI 3/15 and Volvo ÖV 4 both makers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
Volvo ÖV 4 and Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jakob and Lincoln MKR Concept both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
Lincoln MKR 2007 and Ford Thunderbird 2002 one car was built upon the platform (Ford DEW) which has become the basis for the other car's platform (FORD D2C)
Ford Thunderbird 2002 and Gatsby Griffin both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
Gatsby Griffin and Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 both cars have names related to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 and Lancia Delta HF Integrale both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v and Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 both cars debuted in the same event
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 and Connaught B both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
Connaught B and Scania A1 1901 the same person have both cars names in his titles
Scania A1 1901 and Gaz 18 Both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).
Hanomag 1.3 and Adler 2.5 liter 1937 both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Adler 2.5 liter 1937 and Mercedes-Benz 540 K 1938 both cars have a nickname containing the same word
Mercedes 540K 1938 and Hummer H1 both have a Beetle based replica (Isdera Autobahnkurier and Humbug)
Hummer H1 and the Willys Jeep CJ2A Each was a slightly modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government
Willys Jeep CJ2A and 1948 Jicey F2 both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters (JP - JC )
Jicey F2 1948 and Lotus Elise both have a aluminium box section chassis
Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja both cars were named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
Austro-Daimler Maja and the Coffin Dragster both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
Coffin Dragster and Cord 812 the name of one car (Coffin Dragster) and the nickname of the other (Coffin nose)
Cord 812 and Opel GT both cars have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
Opel GT and Saab 92 1950 both cars have not a bootlid
Saab 92 1950 and Mercury 1950 one car commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
Mercury 1950 and London TX4 by Manganese Bronze Both manufacturers are named after metals
London Taxi TX4 and Checker - Ghia Centurion 1968 Both are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
Checker Ghia Centurion 1968 and Karmann Typ 1 1965 both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
Karmann Typ 1 1965 and Lancia Aurelia B20 GT both cars were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
Lancia Aurelia B20 GT and 1952 Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 both cars are RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 1952 and BSA Scout both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
BSA Scout and Wolseley Viper both cars were advertised using the same word\words
Wolseley Viper and AC Cobra both cars are named after a snake
AC Cobra and 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190 the second car has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the first car
Mercedes-Benz 190 and Checker Marathon Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
Checker Marathon and VW Beetle Both cars were produced for more than 20 years
VW Beetle and Auto Union D Type Both factories were lost to the Germans as part of War Reparations
Auto Union D Type and Jaguar E-type Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
Jaguar E type and the Ferrari 250 LM Both factories tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
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Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
type of doors
tires
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
are in the same collection\museum\event
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
are RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
have different (asymmetrical) side views
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
have motorcycle engines
have been replaced by an EVO version
have a Beetle based replica
have a aluminium box section chassis
have a six-wheeled version
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have a badge featuring firearms
have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have similarities in the suspension system
have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
have equivalents in other countries
have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name referring to a lack of light
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
have a name containing the initials of the company owner
have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
have a name containing the name of the same colour
have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters
have a name with the same initials
have a name that refers to modernity
have a name related to novels by the same author
have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
have a nickname containing the same word
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have a fibreglass body
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have racing versions built by the same company
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have the seats placed on the rear axle
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
have not a bootlid
were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country
were produced in the same countries
were produced for more than 20 years
were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the last passenger car models of the companies
were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
were available with a Wankel engine
were the basis for racing cars
were slightly modified civilian versions of vehicles commissioned by the US Government
were in the same list
were advertised using the same word\words
were designed by designers who started on airships
debuted in the same event
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
are named after political offices
are named after polish heavy metal bands
are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
are named after a mythological flying creature
are named after a snake
are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
won the same award
won International competitions driven by their constructors
star in a film,
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its name and the nickname of the other
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
is the mirror image of the other
is a hot rod tribute to the other one
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
is built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the other car
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
are named after both their founders, one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name before
are named after members of the cat group of animals
are named after metals
are better known for their commercial vehicles
share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
were sued for making knockoff’s
were the car building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
had a model with similar power units at the same time
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
Lost their factories to the Germans as part of War Reparations
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the name of the engine
the name of the city founded,
the name of a special version of the other
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the circuit where it raced,
the driver of the second,
the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
incorporates the brand name of the other
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed some adverts for both cars
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
person had both cars names in his titles
object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja
(http://porsche.chez.com/Histo/chap3/Image23.gif)
Both were named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle (it's a twist on a previously featured connection :))
Lotus Elise was named after Elise, grand-daughter of Romano Artioli, then owner of Lotus
Austro-Daimler Maja was named after Maja, the other daughter of Emil Jellinek (his most famous daughter was Mercedes).
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Austro-Daimler Maja and the Coffin Dragster (or just about any dragster): in both cars the driver practically sits on the rear axle.
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:thumbsup:
Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja both cars were named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
Austro-Daimler Maja and the Coffin Dragster both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
Coffin Dragster and What car? Why?
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Let´s take the "coffin - nose" Cord 812:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/1937_Cord_812.JPG/783px-1937_Cord_812.JPG)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/1937_Cord_812.JPG/783px-1937_Cord_812.JPG
Why? Well - just look at it..
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Perfect.
I got the connection... you left me with the hard work, don't you? :)
Coffin Dragster and Cord 812 the name of one car (Coffin Dragster) and the nickname of the other (Coffin nose)
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Cord 812 and Opel GT
Each was equipped with hidden headlights that were opened mechanically by the driver or passenger (rather than electric motors or vacuum servos).
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/Opel-GT_1968.jpg)
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Opel GT and 1950 Saab 92: both cars have to live without a bootlid
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Opel GT and 1950 Saab 92: both cars have to live without a bootlid
:lmao:
We had this:
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
are missing of a part
but I think it's different here, it's not a car without a vital part like the Monocar and the Techno Daf without the lights!
So both are OK.
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The Saab 92 and the 1950 Mercury
Full-scale production of the Saab 92 commenced on 12 December 1949. On the very same date, this advertisement appeared in Life magazine:
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1950 Mercury Ad December 12 1949 Life Magazine.jpeg)
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You scares me!
Saab 92 and the Mercury 1950 on the very same date commenced production of the first and an advertisement of the second appeared on a magazine
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Hurry up folks, still few days and this one will be over...
who can continue this?
Mercury 1950 and what car? why?
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OK how about the 1950 Mercury and the London taxi, which is made by the Manganese Bronze group.
Both manufacturers are named after metals!
(http://www.lti.co.uk/images/taxi/tx4/tx4-next-to-building-from-29275ss.jpg)
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That is perfect.
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That is perfect.
Actually, Mercury is named for the mythological winged messenger. ;)
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It is, but I would have accepted also a Mars Electric, or a Jackson Six...
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London Taxi TX4 and 1968 Checker - Ghia Centurion.
Both are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
(I had some difficulties with the link description, but I think you get the point)
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Nice pic!
The link is ok, I couldn't have done better...
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Ghia Centurion and Karmann Typ 1 from 1965, both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views.
Hope it's not a redundant connection...
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Ghia Centurion and Karmann Typ 1 from 1965, both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views.
Hope it's not an redundant connection...
I would be surprise...
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I couldn't find it, but that means nothing in that not-easy-to-follow topic
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I meant, I would be surprised if it was already used...
I would like to make it more friendly, but it is not easy to put all this links together...the best way for you all is to post them and I will check them.
This one is O.K.
Ghia Centurion and Karmann Typ 1 from 1965, both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
Karmann Typ 1 1965 and what car? why?
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Ghia Centurion and Karmann Typ 1 from 1965, both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
Karmann Typ 1 1965 and what car? why?
Who will be next?
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In a couple of weeks we will have a winner, unless someone can find a car to match with this:
Karmann Typ 1 1965
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I don't want that a Volkwagen wins this game so:
Karmann Typ 1 1965 and Lancia Aurelia B20 GT.
Both were designed by one coachbuilder (both Ghia) and built by another one (Karmann and Pininfarina [altough approx. the first 100 cars were made by Ghia themselves)
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Sorry, but it is still very controversial who really did the design of the Karmann Typ 1 as there was a very similar DAF sketch clearly made by Michelotti.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=8686.0
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Sorry, but it is still very controversial who really did the design of the Karmann Typ 1 as there was a very similar DAF sketch clearly made by Michelotti.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=8686.0
Very interesting! Never heard that story before.
So a slight change in my connection is needed:
Karmann Typ 1 1965 and Lancia Aurelia B20 GT.
Both were designed by one coachbuilder (both a designer who owned his own coach buider company (Giovanni Michelotti/Carrozzeria Michelotti and Mario Felice Boano/Ghia) and built by another one (Karmann and Pininfarina [altough approx. the first 100 cars were made by Ghia themselves]
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Very well!
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Let's try Lancia Aurelia B20 GT - 1967 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang 'GEN 11' - both cars used V6 60 degree engines (Ford Essex for Chitty).
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we already had:
both cars have the same ...
engine layout
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I'll try this one:
Lancia Aurelia B20 GT and 1952 Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 because both had standard right hand drive even though they were built and sold in countries with right hand traffic...
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:popcorn:
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Perfect! (sorry if I kept you waiting...)
Lancia Aurelia B20 GT and 1952 Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 both cars have standard right hand drive and they were built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
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1952 Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 and this 1925 FN 1300 Sport
Both companies made/make besides cars, also firearms
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:-\
we already had this:
Both manufacturers: ....
produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
....
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OK if you don't like his FN try my BSA Scout: both manufacturers used badges with firearms on them rather than cars.
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I liked it as well, but it was already used...
This one is perfect!
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BSA Scout
Wolseley Viper
Both use the word "saloon" in their ads for the car.
(http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/classic-car-images/viper.jpg)
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This is a new one, so it's ok...
(but since both cars are saloons, it's not so strange that this word appeares in both ads...)
BSA Scout and Wolseley Viper both cars were advertised using the same word\words
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This is a new one, so it's ok...
(but since both cars are saloons, it's not so strange that this word appeares in both ads...)
BSA Scout and Wolseley Viper both cars were advertised using the same word\words
Strange is not required. :D
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...and it's good to see you continuing this chain! ;)
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If we have a Wolseley Viper, why not progress to an AC Cobra, both cars being named after a snake!
You don't need a photo of the AC, I expect.
Just in case you prefer one, here it is:
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Cool!
(I ask for the pictures because I'm not after a simple list of cars, and it's nice to have some nice pictures in between.
No need for a Cobra picture if you don't want. ;) )
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AC Cobra and Gold Coast Coach Baroque as both have a model name that refers to an art period...
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Each day you learn something new...
AC Cobra and Gold Coast Coach Baroque both have a model name that refers to an art period
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Gold Coast Coach Baroque and the Rolls-Royce Ghost
Each has a multi-part name containing (in English) at least one long "o" vowel sound in each of the parts.
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Sorry Otto, your connection was good (and funny) but I just found that DynaMike's one is not correct:
About the Baroque, that pic comes, apart from that list of kitcars builder, from the original brochure, where the car is sold as Baroque Motorcars by Knudsen Automotive Inc. and 'Gold Coast Coach' is not active before 2000, with a different kind of vehicles...
So we are still here:
Wolseley Viper and AC Cobra both cars being named after a snake
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D'oh! ;D
OK...
AC Cobra and A Cob Car
The latter is an anagram of the former.
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The above is tongue-in-cheek, of course. ;)
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D'oh! ;D
OK...
AC Cobra and A Cob Car
The latter is an anagram of the former.
:lmao:
It's a pity that it's not real....
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I apologize for my wrong link (I relied too much on internet info...). A similar link would be:
AC Cobra and 1961 Rambler Classic as both have a model name that refers to an art period.
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I'm happy you found another car with the same, original, link.
AC Cobra and 1961 Rambler Classic as both have a model name that refers to an art period.
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I'm happy you found another car with the same, original, link.
AC Cobra and 1961 Rambler Classic as both have a model name that refers to an art period.
You should perhaps explain, as I don't recognise any art period in either of those names.
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I wasn't aware of any Cobra period, but a quick search revealed that there are many more periods than I knew...
http://www.caldarelli.it/jeanraine/cobra.htm
"Alla base del pensiero Cobra vi è la ricerca delle radici della creazione artistica attraverso lo studio della cultura e dell'arte primitiva, dell'arte popolare, dei disegni dei bambini; utilizza simboli, figure, motivi improntati alla natura, ai buoni e cattivi spiriti, alla fertilità, alla vita, alla morte, avvicinando l'uomo ai fondamenti dell'universo attraverso il mito; Cobra tenta il superamento della distinzione tra astratto (il pensiero) e concreto (la sua trascrizione), tra figurativo e non figurativo per un linguaggio e una scrittura universali che portassero allo scoperto il fantastico e il favoloso che risiede nel profondo di ognuno di noi."
"The basis of thought Cobra is the search for roots of artistic creation through the study of culture and art, primitive, folk art, drawings of children, using symbols, shapes, patterns characterized the nature, the good and bad spirits , fertility, life, death, bringing the man to the foundations of the universe through myth, Cobra tries to overcome the distinction between abstract (thinking) and practical (his transcription), including figurative and non figurative for a universal language and writing that led to discovering the fantastic and the fabulous that resides deep within each of us. "
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"Cobra" seems to be rather an art movement than an art period.. Mostly common in the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark.
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1961 Rambler Classic
1962 Plymouth Valiant Wagon
Both have the C-pillar angled in the opposite direction.
(http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/pictures/1962_Plymouth_Valiant_V200.jpg)
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Indeed, Cobra was a post-war avant-garde movement of Karel Appel, Constant, Corneille, Christian Dotremont, Asger Jorn, and Joseph Noiret, from Copenhagen, Brussels and Amsterdam. They made colourful, quite childish looking paintings and sculptures. A bit too loud to my taste...
Classic is indeed a rather wide term referring to classicism, art that is based on Roman and Greek esthetic principles. A bit too strict to my taste...
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1961 Rambler Classic
1962 Plymouth Valiant Wagon
Both have the C-pillar angled in the opposite direction.
...sounds like a body style element. :-\
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1961 Rambler Classic
1962 Plymouth Valiant Wagon
Both have the C-pillar angled in the opposite direction.
...sounds like a body style element. :-\
Fuss budget. :P
;)
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"Cobra" seems to be rather an art movement than an art period.. Mostly common in the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark.
Um, not something I've ever come across (nor do I want to from that description PJ found)
"Classic" is also a bit unhelpful either as a period or a movement so far as my understanding goes.
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I agree the link is not very good, or maybe even not good at all...
Let me try this:
AC Cobra and 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190 as the second car has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the first car.
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Come back, Alexander Calder, all is forgiven!
(http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/03/17-bmw-art-car-1975-alexander-calder-3.0-csl/Bmw-Art-Car-1975-3.0-CSL-by-A-Calder-2-lg.jpg)
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:lmao:
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Looking for a point?
Special Xmas offer: if the connection remains 1 week, the point will be awarded!
Hurry up, then!
AC Cobra and 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190 as the second car has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the first car.
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I'm going to try one.... :)
Mercedes-Benz 190 and Checker Marathon.
Both were the car of choice in their respective countries to use as a Taxi.
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The Checker Marathon and the VW Beetle.
Both were cars that were produced for more than 20 years.
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VW Beetle and Auto Union D Type.
Both their factories were lost to the Germans as part of War Reparations
( Volkswagen was started up under the leadership if the British officer Ivan Hirst, and the Auto Union factories were dismanteled by the Soviets )
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Auto Union D Type and Jaguar E-type.
Their type designations are in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically.
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Jaguar E type and the Ferrari 250 LM.
Both factories tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing.
Jaguar by claiming that the prototype was the production car ( and visa versa ), and Ferrari by claiming the mid engined LM was a continuation of the GTO.
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Mercedes-Benz 190 and Checker Marathon Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
Checker Marathon and the VW Beetle Both cars were produced for more than 20 years
VW Beetle and Auto Union D Type Both factories were lost to the Germans as part of War Reparations
Auto Union D Type and Jaguar E-type Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
Jaguar E type and the Ferrari 250 LM Both factories tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
Wow!
but don't forget to add the pictures!
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but don't forget to add the pictures!
Done!
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Ferrari 250 LM and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans
Each was named for a race venue where it would not compete.
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1962 pontiac tempest lemans.jpg)
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Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto.
Both used a version of a "Rope Drive " , or " Rope Shaft "
The Tempest had a driveshaft that was forced into a curve to give more interior space, the Pinto had a flexible end on its steeringshaft also forced into a curve to take up the difference in angles.
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I dont know if you can reply to your own post, if not, please delete...
1971 Ford Pinto and 1974 Chevrolet Truck.
Both were invloved in lawsuits because of Gastank Explosions that were blamed on Gastank placement.
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Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto.
Both used a version of a "Rope Drive " , or " Rope Shaft "
The Tempest had a driveshaft that was forced into a curve to give more interior space, the Pinto had a flexible end on its steeringshaft also forced into a curve to take up the difference in angles.
We already had this: "both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism"
I dont know if you can reply to your own post, if not, please delete...
1971 Ford Pinto and 1974 Chevrolet Truck.
Both were invloved in lawsuits because of Gastank Explosions that were blamed on Gastank placement.
It's not possible, otherwise you'll be able to lead this chain to a car you know will be very hard to connect.
Ferrari 250 LM: Didn't this car win the 1965 Le Mans with Rindt-Gregory?
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Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto.
Both used a version of a "Rope Drive " , or " Rope Shaft "
The Tempest had a driveshaft that was forced into a curve to give more interior space, the Pinto had a flexible end on its steeringshaft also forced into a curve to take up the difference in angles.
We already had this: "both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism"
One was the transmission shaft (not the steering) and the other was the steering column, so I'd say it's o.k.
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...but the Ferrari 250 LM did compete Le Mans in 1965, so we have to get back to:
Jaguar E type and the Ferrari 250 LM Both factories tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
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Ferrari 250 LM: Didn't this car win the 1965 Le Mans with Rindt-Gregory?
Not the 1963 example that was denied entry by the FIA.
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(that is why I suggested to post also the year from the beginning... ;) )
Ferrari 250 LM 1963 and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
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Sorry.
Thank you for the pardon, kind sir. :)
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So is the '71 Pinto back in? ;)
The Rope Shaft is basically a heavy duty version of a Speedometer cable.
So between the Tempest and the Pinto the Main Driveshaft of one is similar to the Steering of the other.
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Ferrari 250 LM 1963 and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft " (Thanks Allan, sometimes I read too fast...)
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Hurry up, or this will be the last one!
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
Ford Pinto 1971 and what car? why?
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1971 Ford Pinto and the 1961 Lincoln Continental, which are both remotely connected to the Dodge Charger
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/1961 Continental.jpg) (http://www.autopuzzles.com/1971 Dodge Charger.jpg)
Both were penned by designers (Robert Eidschun and Elwood Engel, respectively) who would go on to work on versions of the Dodge Charger after leaving Ford to work at Chrysler.
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'61 Lincoln Continental and 1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer.
In both of them a political figure was assassinated ( JFK and Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria )
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These are connections!
1971 Ford Pinto and the 1961 Lincoln Continental Both were penned by designers (Robert Eidschun and Elwood Engel, respectively) who would go on to work on versions of the Dodge Charger after leaving Ford to work at Chrysler.
'61 Lincoln Continental and 1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer In both of them a political figure was assassinated ( JFK and Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria )
1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer and what car? why?
(this won't be easy....)
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1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer and a 1901 Celeritas Rennwagen.
Both vehicles were able to reach production though a cash infusion from financier Wilhelm (Willy) Stift.
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1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria - one such car is now shown at the Artstetten castle, which is now a Habsburg museum.
And I'd vote for a Jhle Dixi which I found at Hotel Westin in Frankfurt.
The connection: both cars are shown at a place which is not a car museum or a technical museum, but there are some cars (at Artstetten there are two Graf-Stift automobiles, while at the Hotel Westin you can see a dozen classic cars)
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@pnegyesi, your was reply #666...and lt arrived the same second than Otto's...I don't know why Otto's came first, but I have no ohter way to choose between them!
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@pnegyesi, your was reply #666...and lt arrived the same second than Otto's...I don't know why Otto's came first, but I have no ohter way to choose between them!
the end is near!
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Today is the 21st of december....
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It is up to you to choose. The system did not told me there's another answer on the way...
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@pnegyesi, your was reply #666...and lt arrived the same second than Otto's...I don't know why Otto's came first, but I have no ohter way to choose between them!
So Otto's reply is the link?
If so, here is my answer...
1901 Celeritas Rennwagen and 1968 DAF formula 3
Both were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses.
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It is up to you to choose. The system did not told me there's another answer on the way...
I think your answers were both valid and they arrived in the very same moment.
I can only say that Otto's reply appeared first (don't know why) and that's the only reason why I choose that.
1901 Celeritas Rennwagen and 1968 DAF formula 3 Both were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
:thumbsup:
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1968 DAF Formula 3 and 1966 Chaparral 2E: unusually for racing cars both used automatic transmissions.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Oj2_gYfFt2Y/RhrSBfXbwJI/AAAAAAAAARs/mZqwlFVjdjE/s1600/chaparral%2B2e%2B1966%2B070409.jpg)
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Another good one!
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1966 Chaparral 2E and 1968 Lotus 49B
Both had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights.
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:faint:
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 and Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 and Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 and Studebaker Dictator 1935 same builder\manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 and Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 model's name-driver's name
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 and Auto Union Typ B from 1935 model's name-name of the circuit the car raced in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 and Era Type B from 1936 same model's name
Era Type B 1935 and Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 same country of manufacture
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 and Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 and Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 and Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 same builder's name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 and Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 and RR 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker same year
RR 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 and Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 and Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 and Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 and Tracta T11(first car with CV joint) 1929 model's name-part introduced first time
Tracta T11 1929 and Christie Grand Prix 1907 same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 and Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 exceptional technical specs (capacity, top speed, power,etc..)
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955 both named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 and Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 and Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 name of a vessil & a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 and Detroit Electric 1915 name of the car - name of the city founded
Detroit Electric 1915 and Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 and Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 and Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 same city of construction
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 and Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 and Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 and Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 and Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 and AFM 2.5l 1951 their engineers worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 and BMW 700RS 1960 the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 and Wolseley 7 HP 1922 same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 and Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 and Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 and Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
RR Phantom II 1931 and Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one company built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 and Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 nickname of the car-hood ornament (elephant)
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 and Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 nickname of the engine-hood ornament (elephant)
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 and Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 and Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 name of the car-name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 and Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars(Bristol-Auto Union)
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 and Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 name of the car and number of cars produced (in that model year)
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 and Volvo 122 S 1968 name of the car and number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 and Citroen B18 1927 name of the car-name of the engine (b18)
Citroen B18 1927 and Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 and Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 and Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars (probably) derived from the same car (bebe)
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 and AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 and Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 and Benz Velo 1894 similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 and Alpine A110 1300S 1971 same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 and DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both had equivalents in other countries (Willys interlagos-DKW-Vemag)
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 and Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 and Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 and Gordon GT 1960 Both cars are the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 and MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 and Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 Both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 and Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the basis for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 and Citroën DS 1956 the name of a car and the name of a special version of the other (Sacré numéro - Dèesse)
Citroën DS 1955 and Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer (Dante Giacosa)
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 both were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Holden VE Commodore 2007 and Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 and SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 and Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 and Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 and Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 and Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19-- both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
RR Silver Shadow and Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder (monocoque chassis)
Lancia Lambda 1923 and Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 and Burney Streamline 1932 both designers started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 and Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 and Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 and Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 and TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 and Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 and Volkswagen Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one (Austin-Healey VW-Porsche)
VW Typ 3 1966 and Astra Utility 1956. both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 and Biscuter Commercial Rubia both are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia and Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars existed because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 and Chery Eastar 2003 both have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 and Citroen Bx 19-- both cars type code is shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX and Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company (Volvo Tundra-Cinquecento Lucciola)
Daewoo Matiz 1998 and Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name (Chevrolet and Talbot)
Simca 1100 1967 and Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company (Fiat)
Seat Ibiza 1984 and Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 and Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 and Oldsmobile recon 1999 both brands are/were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 and Ford 24-7 Concept 20-- both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept and White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 and Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company (Zagato-Buick)
Rover P6 BS 1967 and Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both companies had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 and Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both companies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 and Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both companies were (at least partially) owned by tire companies (Michelin-Pirelli)
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 and Toyota Progres 1998 both brands are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
Toyota Progres 1998 and Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name that refers to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 and Panhard Dyna Z 1956 the same man designed some adverts for both cars
Panhard Dyna Z 1956 and Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 and Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company (Michelotto)
Lancia Stratos 1972 and Chery A5 20-- both cars have one identical dimension (width)
Chery A5 and Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 2005 both companies were sued for making knockoff’s( GM Chevrolet Spark and Fiat Panda)
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY and Hillman Hunter 19-- both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
Hillman Hunter and Argyll Turbo GT 1976 both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
Argyll Turbo GT 1976 and Allard P1 1952 both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
Allard P1 1952 and Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
RR 20HP 1906 and Cottin & Desg. 12HP 1904 Both brands are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP 1924 and Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 and Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 The model name of the second car incorporates the brand name of the first
AR 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 and Jaguar XJ12 coupe 1977 Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 and Cheetah Coupe 2008 Both makers are named after members of the cat group of animals
Cheetah Coupe 2008 and Vaz Samara Tarzan ---- one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
VAZ Samara Tarzan and Felber Excellence 1977 both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
Felber Excellence 1977 and Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars are limited production based on production cars
Fisker Tramonto 2005 and Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports and Williams FW 08 1980 both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
Williams FW08 1980 and Eagle RV both cars have a six-wheeled version
Eagle RV and Keller Super Chief Both were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
Keller Super Chief and Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 and Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
Hot Rod Hawg and Humber Royal Humberette 1904 both cars names have the same initials (HRH)
Humber Royal Humberette 1904 and Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 both cars have a model name that is a diminuitive of the make
Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 and Chevrolet El Camino 1970 both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Chevy El Camino SS 1970 and Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations (SS - HJ)
Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 and Citroën GS 1971 both cars were available with a Wankel engine
Citroën GS 1971 and Opel G90 both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
Opel G90 and Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
Pininfarina Rossa 2000 and Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car 1958 both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
Hongqi CA72 1958 and UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow and Peugeot 402 Eclipse 1937 both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
1937 Peugeot 402 Eclipse and Ford Model T Each is commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
Ford Model T and Austin 7 both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
Austin Seven and Dixi 3/15 one car was the mirror image of the other
DIXI 3/15 and Volvo ÖV 4 both makers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
Volvo ÖV 4 and Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jakob and Lincoln MKR Concept both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
Lincoln MKR 2007 and Ford Thunderbird 2002 one car was built upon the platform (Ford DEW) which has become the basis for the other car's platform (FORD D2C)
Ford Thunderbird 2002 and Gatsby Griffin both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
Gatsby Griffin and Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 both cars have names related to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 and Lancia Delta HF Integrale both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v and Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 both cars debuted in the same event
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 and Connaught B both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
Connaught B and Scania A1 1901 the same person have both cars names in his titles
Scania A1 1901 and Gaz 18 Both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).
Hanomag 1.3 and Adler 2.5 liter 1937 both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Adler 2.5 liter 1937 and Mercedes-Benz 540 K 1938 both cars have a nickname containing the same word
Mercedes 540K 1938 and Hummer H1 both have a Beetle based replica (Isdera Autobahnkurier and Humbug)
Hummer H1 and the Willys Jeep CJ2A Each was a slightly modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government
Willys Jeep CJ2A and 1948 Jicey F2 both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters (JP - JC )
Jicey F2 1948 and Lotus Elise both have a aluminium box section chassis
Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja both cars were named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
Austro-Daimler Maja and the Coffin Dragster both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
Coffin Dragster and Cord 812 the name of one car (Coffin Dragster) and the nickname of the other (Coffin nose)
Cord 812 and Opel GT both cars have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
Opel GT and Saab 92 1950 both cars have not a bootlid
Saab 92 1950 and Mercury 1950 one car commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
Mercury 1950 and London TX4 by Manganese Bronze Both manufacturers are named after metals
London Taxi TX4 and Checker - Ghia Centurion 1968 Both are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
Checker Ghia Centurion 1968 and Karmann Typ 1 1965 both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
Karmann Typ 1 1965 and Lancia Aurelia B20 GT both cars were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
Lancia Aurelia B20 GT and 1952 Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 both cars are RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 1952 and BSA Scout both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
BSA Scout and Wolseley Viper both cars were advertised using the same word\words
Wolseley Viper and AC Cobra both cars are named after a snake
AC Cobra and 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190 the second car has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the first car
Mercedes-Benz 190 and Checker Marathon Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
Checker Marathon and VW Beetle Both cars were produced for more than 20 years
VW Beetle and Auto Union D Type Both factories were lost to the Germans as part of War Reparations
Auto Union D Type and Jaguar E-type Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
Jaguar E type and the Ferrari 250 LM Both factories tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
Ferrari 250 LM 1963 and the Pontiac Tempest LeMans both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
Ford Pinto 1971 and the 1961 Lincoln Continental Both cars were penned by designers who would go on to work on versions of the same car
Lincoln Continental 1961 and 1911 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer In both of them a political figure was assassinated
Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer 1911 and a 1901 Celeritas Rennwagen Both vehicles reached production though a cash infusion from the same financier
Celeritas Rennwagen 1901 and 1968 DAF formula 3 Both were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
DAF Formula 3 1968 and 1966 Chaparral 2E both used automatic transmissions despite their racing nature
Chaparral 2E 1966 and 1968 Lotus 49B Both had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
1968 Lotus 49B and the Vels Parnelli VPJ6 one car was the 1st to use Cosworth DFV and the other was the 1st to use the turbocharged version of the Cosworth DFX
Vels Parnelli VPJ6 and Eagle T2G Both teams are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
Eagle T2G and 1951 MG TD Both are in museums with a name starting with the same letter
1951 MG TD and Morgensen/Bird Special both cars were saved by the same buyer
Morgensen/Bird Special and Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers
Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren and 1936 Bentley 4 1/4litre Veth & Zoon DHC both coachbuilders were official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Veth & Zoon DHC and 1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Köng DHC both cars have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis of the same year
1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Karosserie Köng DHC and '54 Plymouth Sniper built by Troy Trepanier Both started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
'54 Plymouth Sniper built by Troy Trepanier Both and DongFeng Brave Soldier Both model names refer to a person who tend to use a gun
DongFeng Brave Soldier and Kirkham 427 KMS/SC Both cars are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals
Kirkham 427 KMS/SC and the Kaiser Traveler 1949 Each was built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility
Kaiser Traveler and '63 Mini Cooper both cars were used as police cars
'63 Mini Cooper police car and 1957 Ferrari Testa Rossa V12 Both had outside door hinges
1957 Ferrari Testa Rossa V12 and 1939 Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 Alfetta the same person designed both their engines
Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 "Alfetta" and the BMC ADO15 "Mini" Each model nickname alludes to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates
BMC ADO15 "Mini" and 1967 Lamborghini Miura Both cars had a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to
1967 Lamborghini Miura and 1966 Ford GT40 both cars had modern day reincarnations
1966 Ford GT40 and 1931 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 tipo Le Mans both cars won the same race the same number of times in a row
1931 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 tipo LeMans and 1931 Maikafer prototype Both were designed by someone who was of the same origin
1931 Maikafer prototype and the 1936 Tatra t-97 Both have been named as an inspiration for the same car
1936 Tatra t-97 and 1939 KdF wagen both cars were designed by a father and son combo
1939 KdF Wagen and the 1960 Chevrolet Corvair Each was later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative and a military vehicle
1960 Chevrolet Corvair and Ford Pinto Safety of both cars was heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result
19-- Ford Pinto and 20-- Panoz Esperante both cars were the base for a flying car
20-- Panoz Esperante and the Lancia beta HPE Both were available with a supercharger
Lancia Beta HPE and the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee Each is the 1st new model on sale after their respective manufacturers relinquished control to another
2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Bantam Number One They are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep
Bantam "Jeep" Number One and the 1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) Each was delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) and the 1966 jaguar XJ13 the same man drove both cars
Jaguar XJ13 and Renault 177 both cars have been affected by superstiction
Renault 177 TS and the 2002 Volkswagen Golf Estate Wagon both cars have the same weight/output ratio
2002 Volkswagen Golf Estate Wagon and Lincoln Zephyr both cars are named after a wind
Lincoln Zephyr and 1940 ZIS 101A both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries
1940 ZIS 101A and a Datsun 100A both cars share their name with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system
Datsun 100A and SS 90 Both brands changed names
SS 90 and the 1926 Ford Model T both cars were sold at the same amount of money in different value.
Ford Model T and Citroen Type A both cars were the 1st mass produced cars in their continent
Citroen Type-A and UrSaab both are the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts
UrSaab and Volvo PV 544 Both were made into soldout keychains by same company
Volvo PV 544 and 1951 Ford Taunus both cars have the same nickname in the same country
1951 Ford Taunus and 1961 Ford Consul Capri both cars were the 1st of their brand introducing a braking system in their country (hydraulic-front discs)
1961 Ford Consul Capri and 1959 Citroen Bijou both cars were the 1st of their brand introducing the same body style in the same period (2-door pillarless coupe)
1959 Citroen Bijou and 1959 Lotus Elite Both were the first cars with fibreglass bodies made by their manufacturers and designed by the same man
1959 Lotus Elite and Ralph Watson's Lycoming Special they both had an engine which was not designed to power a car (firepump-airplane)
Lycoming Special and the Steyr Allard Both vehicles are named after the engines that powered them
Steyr Allard, and the Allard Front Engined Dragster Both are Racers, built by the same man, that had no cooling system on their foreign engines
1961 Allard Dragster and 1929 Napier Golden Arrow both cars belong to the same collection and are going to be restored
Napier Golden Arrow and Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet Both are named after a precious metal object that can be shot using a weapon
Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet and Boyd Coddington's Boydster II Both streetrods, based on a early Ford, not sharing any actual part with the cars they are based on
Boyd Coddington's Boydster II and Colman Milne Cardinal in both names there are two words for a male person
Colman Milne Cardinal and Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery Both modified longroof Fords with Birdnames, used as working vehicles
Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery and Studebaker Lark Both are named for birds, and marked their maker's foray into smaller vehicles
Studebaker Lark and Austin A40 Dorset Both were imitated as a children’s car
Austin A40 Dorset and the Ford Anglia Both bodystyles were the cars to beat in the old Gasser Dragrace classes
Ford Anglia and the Ford Pinto both were replaced by a newer model tagged the same
Ford Pinto and Ford Mustang II. Both had a prototype build on their chassis by the same designer, in the same year, with similarity in the design
Ford Mustang II and Ford Mustang II 1963 both cars have the same make and model name, both indicative of future production models
Ford Mustang II 1963 and Subaru Brumby both cars are named after the same animal (wild horse) in the respective country (Mustang - Brumby )
Subaru Brumby and Jeep Model M-38A1 both cars have been owned by thesame ex-president and have 4-wheel drive
Jeep Model M-38A1 and Bentley Continental DC Both feature 24 volt electrics
Bentley Continental DC and the 2009 Mullen L1X-75 GTEV Both have a carbon fiber body and are electric powered
Mullen L1X-75 GTEV and Avelle GTA, as they both share the same body shell
Avelle GTA and the Lamborghini Countach both have a space frame chassis
Lambo Countach and Leda LT24 both had the engine ahead of the rear axle and power directed back with a driveshaft to the diff. behind the engine
LT24 by Leda Cars and 1947-'48 Dommartin Both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race due to bancrupty
1947-'48 Dommartin and the 1956 Ferrari D50 Both were recycled gp versions designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time
1956 Ferrari D50 and 1955 MB W196 L8 Both cars took the championship in a year with the same pilot and did not finish just 1 gp for same failure
1955 Mercedes Benz W196 L8 and Lotus 79 both cars dominated one seasons in the hands of 2 pilots
Lotus 79 and the Lola T294 BMW Both cars crashed on the same circuit leading to the tragic death of both its drivers
Lola T294 BMW and Osella PA9 BMW Both BMW powered Gr6 Sports cars, former Road Track race cars, European Hillclimb Championships winners with same pilot
Osella PA9 BMW and the Chiribiri Monza Both cars where driven by Italian racecar drivers who started their carreer racing motorcycles
Chiribiri Monza and 1922 Vulcan 20 HP Tourer both manufacturers stopped production of passenger cars in the same year
1922 Vulcan 20 HP and 1908 Rapid Both companies were founded by two brothers, had a change in name, produced commercial vehicles, and moved to bigger premises the same year
1908 Rapid passeger car and 1954 Packard Panther Both companies gave out Stock Certificates
1954 Packard Panther and the Oldsmobile F-88 Both cars where handbuilt two seater convertible cars from same year
Oldsmobile F-88 and 1961 Ferrari California Spyder They both set records for highest amount paid at auctions
Ferrari California Spyder and Porsche 911 Both manufacturer designed and produced their largest number of different models on these model lines
Porsche 911 2.2 and Mercedes MGP W01 Both got a increase in wheelbase to improve the handling
Mercedes MGP W01 and the 2000 Sauber C19 Both cars share the same supplier in fuel and tires
2000 Sauber C19 and Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe They both have the same sponsor
Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe and the 1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile Both cars have names refering too music bands
1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile and James Dean's Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard" both cars were by same man, but claimed by another
James Dean's Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard" and Tom Mix's 1937 Cord 812 Phaeton in both car an actor died in a car crash while driving it
1937 Cord 812 Phaeton and 1937 Duesenberg J Rollston Conv. Both car companies were owned by the same man, in the last year of their production
1937 Duesenberg J Rollston Conv. Berline and Daimler EL24 both manufactures where building rolling chassis for other to body
Daimler EL 24 and the 1937 Cord 812 Phaeton They both had a 4 speed pre-selector gearbox
1937 Cord 812/SC and 1940 American Bantam Hollywood: Both cars were modified by the same man to create new models, disapproved by companies' owners.
1940 American Bantam Hollywood and 2005 Fiat Multipla 115 JTD Cinecittà One car shares a name with America’s famous film city, the other is named after its European counterpart
2005 Fiat Multipla 115 JTD Cinecittà and the Matra-Simca Bagheera Borh cars where available with a third front seat
Matra-Simca Bagheera and "the Pink Panther car" Both have a name in common with a cartoon figure
Pink Panther car, and Doug Rose's Green Mamba Driver position in both cars was centered, and in front of the Front Axle Centerline
Doug Rose's Green Mamba and the Bennet Drag Car Both cars have an open monococ with a rollcage
Bennet Drag Car and MCC Smart Fortwo Both cars have front and rear tires of different sizes
MCC Smart Fortwo and Smart Roadster Both have a 'Tridion safety cell'
Smart Roadster and Mc Laren MP4/2 Both makes are related to Swiss watch manufacturers
Mc Laren MP4/2 and the Renault F1 V6 turbo Both F1 teams had connection to same suplier wich pioneered the use of carbon brakes in F1 in 1983
Renault F1 V6 turbo and BRM P83 both of these Formula 1 racecars' engine was also in Lotus' Formula 1 cars of the period
BRM P83 and the Lola T332 Each was developed for one series and re purposed for another series
Lola T332 and Lotus Eleven Both very succesfull racingcars of which an unknown number of Replicas and Kits were built
Lotus Eleven and the Bugatti Type 35C Both cars are known as "most succesful race car'' by these manufactures
Bugatti 35 and Simca Versailles Both cars were first made with a 8-cylinder engine and later had a 4-cylinder version
Simca Versailles and Range Rover Both cars had an engine designed by one of the "big three" which ended up the property of another one of the big three because of deals and mergers with non US car companies
Range-Rover and Citroen DS both cars have saved the lives of heads of state in an assasination attempt
Citroen DS and Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing Both bodyshapes have been used as full size, non functional pieces of art
Mercedes-Benz 300SL and Triumph GT6 Mk1 Both cars had swing-axle rear suspension, which led to frequent backwards trips into hedges due to the whole rear-end jacking up on lift-off in mid-corner
Triumph GT6 Mk1 and Lotus 7 series 2 Both used the front uprights originally designed for the Standard 8 and 10 , which were used on many UK built single seaters, and specials
Lotus 7 and Sunbeam Tiger Both were vehicles featured in the opening credits of 1960's TV programs about secret agents
Sunbeam Tiger and '63 AC Cobra Both British built roadsters powered by Small Block Fords, that got a got a hardtop for LeMans
AC Cobra and Jaguar E-Type Both employed a Salisbury 4HU unit with inboard disk brakes, to reduce unsprung weight
Jaguar E-type and Mercedes-Benz 190SL Both cars featured on Donald Byrd albums for Blue Note
Mercedes-Benz 190SL and the 1975 Monica both makes are named after women not directly involved in the production of these makes, but where only related to those who where
Monica and 1964 Farcel Vega II They are the last, and second to last attempts to create a luxury brand in France, both Crysler V8-powered
Facel Vega II and Bertone Freeclimber Both companies made bodies for other brands before they made cars under their own brand name
Bertone Freeclimber and the De Tomaso UAZ Simbir Both were Italian-assembled versions of existing overseas 4x4 SUVs
De Tomaso UAZ Simbir and Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Pantera Both are built by De Tomaso AND also sold and marketed by other companies AND named per different-language variations of the word 'Panther', AND constructed with engines from third-party companies
deTomaso Pantera & Lamborghini Miura both italian supercars which successor was only a factory mock up concept without continuation
Lamborghini Miura - International Harvester Scout Both makes also made agricultural tractors
International Harvester Scout and Mercedes S-class W126 Both were used by Monteverdi as the base for one of his cars
Mercedes S-class W126 and the BMW 7 Series Both cars where available as a streched limo version with the letter 'L' added to the model designation
BMW 750iL and Aston Martin V12 Vanquish These are the only two V12 cars driven by James Bond
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish and Nissan Armada both cars shares the model name same as video game for SEGA
Nissan Armada and the Dutton Mariner Both names are related by war at sea
Dutton Mariner and Gibbs Aquada. Both are amphibious vehicles
Gibbs Aquada and the Plymouth Roadrunner Both names indicate where the vehicle can move
Plymouth Roadrunner and BMW 3.0 CSL Both cars were fitted with aerodynamic appendages for racing homologation
BMW 3.0 CSL and Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA Both CSL and GTA tags refer to low weights
Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA & 1968 Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta
Both names are also named in Italian Regions names
Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta and Maserati 6C/34 sn3018/3701 the man the 1st car is named after led the armada in which the pilot of the 2nd was a driver
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Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
code name
nickname in the same country
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
type of doors
tires
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
weight/output ratio
traction,
body style elements,
top configuration
mileage radius,
Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
-Both cars: are one-off,
are the high-output version of a standard model
are limited production based on production cars
are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan/saloon model
are woodies
are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
are in the same collection\museum\event
are in museums with a name starting with the same letter
are missing of a part
are the product of three countries
are the 1st new model on sale after their respective manufacturers relinquished control to another
are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep
are RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
used automatic transmissions despite their racing nature
have different (asymmetrical) side views
have one exceptional technical spec
have one identical dimension
have only one official colour scheme
have motorcycle engines
have been replaced by an EVO version
have a Beetle based replica
have a aluminium box section chassis
have a six-wheeled version
have a badge featuring twice the same letter
have a badge featuring firearms
have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have similarities in the suspension system
have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
have equivalents in other countries
have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a name referring to a lack of light
have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
have a name containing the initials of the company owner
have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
have a name containing the name of the same colour
have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters
have a name with the same initials
have a name that refers to modernity
have a name related to novels by the same author
have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
have a nickname containing the same word
have a nickname alludes to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have been coachbuilt by official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis of the same year
have been named as an inspiration for the same car
have been affected by superstiction
have a fibreglass body
have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
have racing versions built by the same company
have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
have the seats placed on the rear axle
have a type code shared with a thing\object
have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
have not a bootlid
were produced under licence from other manufacturers in the same different country
were produced in the same countries
were produced for more than 20 years
were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries
were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
were designed by a father and son combo
were delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the last passenger car models of the companies
were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
were sold in a later period under a different brand name
were sold at the same amount of money in different value
were later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative and a military vehicle
were saved by the same buyer
were built by Volkswagen dealers
were used as police cars
were built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility
were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
were available with a Wankel engine
were available with a supercharger
were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
were the basis for racing cars
were the base for a flying car
were slightly modified civilian versions of vehicles commissioned by the US Government
were in the same list
were advertised using the same word\words
were designed by designers who started on airships
were designed by someone who was of the same origin
were penned by designers who would go on to work on versions of the same car
were the first mass produced cars in their continent
were the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts
were made into the same gadget by same company
debuted in the same event
reached production though a cash infusion from the same financier
had later revival projects,
had modern day reincarnations
had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
had outside door hinges
had their safety heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result
had a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
are named after a person who tend to use a gun
are named after the same object\thing,
are named after meteorological events
are named after a wind
are named after the same letter of 2 different alphabets
are named after geographic places
are named after a race venue where they would not compete
are named after political offices
are named after polish heavy metal bands
are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
are named after a mythological flying creature
are named after a snake
are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
derived from a prototype made for another company
won the same race,
won the same race the same number of times in a row
won the same award
won International competitions driven by their constructors
star in a film,
share their name with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system
their engineers worked for the same company\model
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
existed because of visionaries born in the same year
In both of them a political figure was assassinated
-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its name and the nickname of the other
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
is a styling mockup that became the other car
is the mirror image of the other
is a hot rod tribute to the other one
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
is built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
inspired the other
was the 1st to use an engine and the other was the 1st to use the turbocharged version of it
commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the other car
-Both manufacturers: are/were part of the same company
are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
are named after both their founders, one of whom of each company also produced cars under their own name before
are named after members of the cat group of animals
are named after metals
are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
are better known for their commercial vehicles
changed names
share their name with makes from the same country started the same year
were created as a joint venture
were owned by tire companies
were sued for making knockoff’s
were the car building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
had a model with similar power units at the same time
later on made a car in collaboration with another manufacturer
started car production with cars built under license from another company
started car production with versions of the same vehicle
Their last model derives from the same car
tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
Lost their factories to the Germans as part of War Reparations
-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other
built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
-The name of one car and: the name of the engine
the name of the city founded,
the name of a special version of the other
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the circuit where it raced,
the driver of the second,
the part introduced first time,
the same name in a different language,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
incorporates the brand name of the other
-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
man was director of the first and founded the second company
man designed some adverts for both cars
man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
man had both cars names in his titles
man designed both their engines
man drove both of them
object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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1966 Chaparral 2E and 1968 Lotus 49B Both had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
1968 Lotus 49B and what car? why?
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I like this game... :)
For my information ( since I got into this one kinda late ),
this is just for fun, right?
No points are awarded?
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This is just for fun.
...but it will give from 1 up to 5 points to who will find the last ring of this chain.
If no-one will be able to continue it without repeating an existing connection, points will be awarded:
Somewhere I wrote how I will decide if a connection will worth only one or 5 points:
5 points: only these two cars can be connected with this link (I used this example: a builder's son driving one car had an accident with the son of another builder)
4 points: very few cars may be connected in this way (like yours, about JFK and Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria)
3 points: not very direct
2 points: quite direct
1 point: quite easy (same name, same year, same builder, etc...)
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This is just for fun.
Cool...
Thanks.
:)
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1968 Lotus 49B and the Vels Parnelli VPJ6
The former was the first to use the Cosworth DFV in F1 racing. The latter was the first to use the turbocharged version of the engine - the Cosworth DFX - in the USAC Champ Car racing series. Each engine went on to dominate its respective series for a number of years.
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Vels Parnelli VPJ6 and Eagle T2G.
Both teams have the name of the owner in them ( Vels Parnelly and Gurney Eagle ), who were Hot Rodders that ( amongst other things ) raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy.
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Eagle T2G and 1951 MG TD. Both are in museums with a name which starts with a "D".
An Eagle T2G resides at the Donington Grand Prix Collection
a 1951 MG TD resides at the Doc's Classic Car and Cycle Museum in Bonduel, Wisconsin
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1951 MG TD and Morgensen/Bird Special.
Both were saved by me by buying them, and both are ( slowly ) in the process of being put back together.
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Morgensen/Bird Spl.
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I've seen that car somewhere before ;D
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I've seen that car somewhere before ;D
;D ;D
The TD was a real succes story...
I was at a Swapmeet and it was sitting on the ground with a sledge hammer leaning up against it, and a sign saying you could wack it with the sledge for a buck per blow.
The guy wanted to see it destroyed, and I had a hard time negotiating a price so i could take it home.
It was an old Drag car, and its now re-united with the son of the guy who used to own and race it...
when I bought the Morgensen spl, the guy I bought if from told me he was going to turn it into a Field Car, for his kids to play with.
I only later found out it was the missing and forgotten Special built by Dick Morgensen for Tracy Bird.
A full sistercar to the '54 Morgensen Plymouth spl. ( which later became famous as ol' Yeller, when Max Balchowsky owned it )
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1951 MG TD and Morgensen/Bird Special.
Both were saved by me by buying them, and both are ( slowly ) in the process of being put back together.
That sounds great, but the connection should somehow qualify these cars...it's not possible to use links such as 'this Yaris and this Focus because they are both grey', or 'these 2 cars because my parents had them'...
...but since it's Xmas time, and I like your cars, I think that 'both cars were saved and are under restoration by the same buyer (who is incidentally an AP member!)' will be fine!
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I think that 'both cars were saved and are under restoration by the same buyer (who is incidentally an AP member!)' will be fine!
Then these might still not qualify.
I found and bought them both, but I only kept the Morgensen spl.
The former owners son is doing the MG...
Edit.
They were both found in Arizona... Maybe that helps?
If not, I understand... ;)
But I thought that especially the MG TD was worth a mention, because I bought it under such bizarre circumstances.
And the family it was re-united with doesnt even live in this State....
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If the Morgensen special holds true, then I have a connection.
Dick Morgensen was a Porsche-Volkswagen dealer.
So here we have a Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren, which was also later a Volkswagen dealer.
So the connection is: both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers.
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:thumbsup:
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Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren and 1936 Bentley 4 1/4litre Veth & Zoon DHC
D’Ieteren Frères and Veth & Zoon carroserie fabriek were both official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household ( Translated - Hofleverancier )
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1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Veth & Zoon DHC and
1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Karosserie Köng DHC
Both companies created the same coachbuilt body on the same chassis, the same year
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1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Karosserie Köng DHC and '54 Plymouth Sniper built by Troy Trepanier.
Both started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later.
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Plymouth Sniper, 1954
and DongFeng Brave Soldier
Both model names refer to a person who tend to use a gun
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1968 Lotus 49B and the Vels Parnelli VPJ6 one car was the 1st to use Cosworth DFV and the other was the 1st to use the turbocharged version of the Cosworth DFX
Vels Parnelli VPJ6 and Eagle T2G Both teams are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
Eagle T2G and 1951 MG TD Both are in museums with a name which starts with a "D"
1951 MG TD and Morgensen/Bird Special both cars were saved by the same buyer
Morgensen/Bird Special and Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers
Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren and 1936 Bentley 4 1/4litre Veth & Zoon DHC both coachbuilders were official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Veth & Zoon DHC and 1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Köng DHC both cars have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis, the same year
1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Karosserie Köng DHC and '54 Plymouth Sniper built by Troy Trepanier Both started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
'54 Plymouth Sniper built by Troy Trepanier Both and DongFeng Brave Soldier Both model names refer to a person who tend to use a gun
Remember that the connections have to be related to the cars....(some of these are very thin....)
DongFeng Brave Soldier and what car? why?
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would you like to refuse any of the connections which you just listed?
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would you like to refuse any of the connections which you just listed?
No, it's a game and I did not have the time to reply...
for example this 'Eagle T2G and 1951 MG TD Both are in museums with a name which starts with a D' is on the edge...and the one about the Bentley coachbuilders is good, but the connection should be between the Bentley by XX and the Bentley by YY and not between XX and YY, that's why I slightly changed it.
But I know that sometimes these rules are only in my head and that's why I prefer to let go and to let the fun continue without being to strict about it. ;)
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DongFeng Brave Soldier and Kirkham 427 KMS/SC.
Both cars are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals.
( the Hummers that were appearently left in China by AMC, and Shelby Cobra CSX 3104 which the Kirkham's owned. )
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:thumbsup:
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Kirkham 427 KMS/SC and the Kaiser Traveler (1949 model here)
Each was built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility.
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Good!
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Kaiser Traveler and '63 Mini Cooper.
Both seem unlikely choices as a Police car, but were used anyway.
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We already had a connection with body style elements, but not with body parts!
'63 Mini Cooper police car and 1957 Ferrari Testa Rossa V12 (Chassis No 0704) - 2nd prototype
Both had outside door hinges.
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Wow!
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1957 Ferrari Testa Rossa V12 (Chassis No 0704) and 1939 Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 Alfetta.
Both of their engines were designed by Gioacchino Colombo.
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Another original one!
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Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 "Alfetta" and the BMC ADO15 "Mini"
Each model nickname alludes to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates.
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:thumbsup:
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BMC ADO15 "Mini" and 1967 Lamborghini Miura.
Both the Mini and the early Miura's had a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to ( if I remember correctly, the later Miura's did not because it gave them troubles.)
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1967 Lamborghini Miura and 1966 Ford GT40 - both had modern day reincarnations: the Miura Concept was shown in 2006, while the Ford GT was built between 2005-2006
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1966 Ford GT40 and 1931 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 tipo Le Mans.
Versions of both of these cars won LeMans 4 times in a row.
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One better than the other!
(we already had 'both cars had lateral revival project's', (Veritas and Nomad), but the Veritas was not a specific model like the Miura and the GT40)
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1931 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 tipo LeMans and
1931 Maikafer prototype
Both were designed by someone who was of Hungarian origin.
The Alfa Romeo was designed by Vittorio Jano, who was born as János Viktor to Hungarian parents who moved to Italy before Janos was born.
Maikafer was designed by Josef Ganz, whose father was German who married a Hungarian girl and Ganz was born in Hungary
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1931 Maikafer prototype and the 1936 Tatra t-97.
Both have been named as an inspiration for the 1939 KdF wagen.
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When I started this chain I didn't think it was going to last soooooo long, that is great!
:thumbsup:
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1939 KdF Wagen and the 1960 Chevrolet Corvair.
Each was later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative (VW Type 2 and Corvair Rampside) AND a military vehicle (German Kübelwagen and the US XM-571 / CL-91 Dynatrac.
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The last one will definetly get more than 1 point!
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1960 Chevrolet Corvair and Ford Pinto.
Safety of both cars was heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result.
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The pinto rears its head yet again! ;D
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Ford Pinto and Panoz Esperante
both cars were the base for a flying car
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Panoz Esperante and the Lancia beta HPE ( Volumex )
Both were available with a supercharger.
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BTW...
The link was the Tatra, not the KdF.
( I made the same mistake with the Charger link, but I caught it in time and Deleted it...)
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You are right...we need an original connection between 1936 Tatra t-97 and 1939 KdF wagen to fix the missing ring: who want to try? (except Otto, he can't post 2 consecutive links)
Before we continue with the Lancia beta HPE ( Volumex ), we should fix this:
1936 Tatra t-97 and 1939 KdF wagen why?
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Crikey!
Well, I know of suitable connection, but as you say, I'm not allowed to. And PM'in the connection would be cheating, which is a bad thing. ;)
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Both had aircooled flat4 engines mounted behind the rear axle.
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If the previous one is not accepted:
both cars were designed by a father and son combo
(Hans and Erich Ledwinka vs. Ferdinand and Ferry Porsche)
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i had no idea that Ferry worked on the KdF.
But after a quick search it looks like he worked for his dad at the time.
I vote for that link, I think its better than mine.... :)
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They are both fine, and since metalshapes agrees (and this ring is not a factor for the chain) I'll take guido66's one.
Now we can resume normal operations:
Panoz Esperante and the Lancia beta HPE ( Volumex ) Both were available with a supercharger
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Lancia Beta (including the HPE) and the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Each is the first new model to go on sale after their respective manufacturers relinquished control to FIAT.
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2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee and Bantam Number One.
They are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep.
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Bantam "Jeep" Number One and the 1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) that made its debut at Geneva.
Each was delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers.
On 23 September, 1940, Bantam engineers Harold Crist and Karl Probst drove the Jeep (called Number One, the Model Mk I or GPV) from Butler, PA to Camp Holabird, MD (230 miles) for delivery to the Army, arriving with only a half-hour to spare before the delivery time promised.
In 1961, Jaguar engineer Norman Dewis drove the E-type non-stop to get the car to the Geneva salon before the show opened.
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1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) and the 1965 Jensen P66.
Both Showcars ( The Jag at Geneva and the P66 at the London Motor Show ) linked by Martin Robey
He restored the Jaguar E-type #77RW , and he is also a Jensen Specialist ( he owns Jensen tooling, stock and archives that he bought when the factory went under )
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I see the link with that Jaguar, but what connects Mr Robey with the P66 in particular?
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Nothing with the P66 in particular...
Just that he is the Go-To guy for Jensens, and did the Jag.
But you are right, as a link that might not be enough.
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So to clarify some more...
No acctual link from Robey to the P66 that I know of, except for his involvement in all things Jensen.
I was trying to find any Jensen that was restored by his firm, but I couldnt find one.
The best I could find was a Jensen with Robey replacement parts on it.
So I decided to go for a Jensen that had been in a Motorshow to strengthen the link somewhat, but I realise its still not a great link.
I'll understand if its rejected... ;D
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OK then, let's get back here:
Bantam "Jeep" Number One and the 1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) that made its debut at Geneva. Each was delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
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Who's next?
1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) and what car? why ?
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Allright...
Another try. :)
1961 Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) and the 1966 jaguar XJ13.
Norman Dewis, who drove the E type to Geneva, was the man behind the wheel in the XJ13 when it crashed at MIRA in 1971, because a rear wheel collapsed.
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Good one!
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Norman Dewis, who drove the E type to Geneva, was the man behind the wheel in the XJ13 when it crashed at MIRA in 1971, because a rear wheel collapsed.
That took you 17 days? ;D
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Jaguar XJ13 and Renault 177 because superstition seems to be real: #13 is obviously the 'bad luck number' in Europe and indeed the XJ13 ended in an accident, whereas in Italy the bad luck number is #17, therefore Renault sold its 17 as 177 in Italy, and the shown car here is still alive (at least when the picture for this advert was made).
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Norman Dewis, who drove the E type to Geneva, was the man behind the wheel in the XJ13 when it crashed at MIRA in 1971, because a rear wheel collapsed.
That took you 17 days? ;D
I had to sit out my self imposed penance for trying to sneak a bad one by.... ;D
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Renault 177 and what car? why?
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Few days and it will come to an end....unless...
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Renault 177 (TS) and the 2002 Volkswagen Golf Estate Wagon...
...they both have the identical weight/output ratio: 9.77kg/cv
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/VWGolf.jpg)
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Volkswagen Golf and a Lincoln Zephyr
Each is named for a wind (Gulf Stream and East Wind, respectively).
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A pedant writes:
a. Golf isn't Gulf
b. Gulf Stream isn't a wind, it's an ocean current
c. Ζέφυρος (Zephyrus or Zephyr) was the Greek god of wind, specifically the West wind
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A pedant writes:
a. Golf isn't Gulf
b. Gulf Stream isn't a wind, it's an ocean current
c. Ζέφυρος (Zephyrus or Zephyr) was the Greek god of wind, specifically the West wind
Gulf Stream is both an oceanic current and a prevailing wind.
Volkswagen introduced during a good portion of the latter part of the 20th century were named for winds.
Golf is the German form of Gulf.
I freely admit I'm directionally challenged
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If the above link is OK, here is my attempt.
Lincoln Zephyr and 1940 ZIS 101A - both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries (Abraham Lincoln and Joseph Stalin respectively).
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A pedant writes:
a. Golf isn't Gulf
b. Gulf Stream isn't a wind, it's an ocean current
c. Ζέφυρος (Zephyrus or Zephyr) was the Greek god of wind, specifically the West wind
Gulf Stream is both an oceanic current and a prevailing wind.
Volkswagen introduced during a good portion of the latter part of the 20th century were named for winds.
Golf is the German form of Gulf.
I freely admit I'm directionally challenged
I'm enjoing your discussion, and I thought Otto's link is good.
I don't think Allan is challenging anyone (but I'm not speaking for him, since he can do for himself) and I appreciate his help to find the right ones.
Sometimes I tend to accept almost every connections because I trust them (for me Golf is Tiger Wood's 2nd sport, that's why there was the Golf ball on the shift stick, but different country may imply different meanings) and you may know more than me.
@Allan, thank you for your support but I'll also would like you to find new connections, besides supposed mistakes. ;)
@Faksta :thumbsup:
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A pedant writes:
a. Golf isn't Gulf
b. Gulf Stream isn't a wind, it's an ocean current
c. Ζέφυρος (Zephyrus or Zephyr) was the Greek god of wind, specifically the West wind
Gulf Stream is both an oceanic current and a prevailing wind.
Volkswagen introduced during a good portion of the latter part of the 20th century were named for winds.
Golf is the German form of Gulf.
I freely admit I'm directionally challenged
Nitpicking, but I guess Alan is right. You hardly find a Golf wind in any German dictionary.
Golfstrom ~ Gulf Stream (name giver of the VW Golf)
e.g Golf von Persien ~ Gulf of Persia = an ocean bay
and Golf sport (same spelling in both languages)
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I know there are points at stake, but this is a game, 1st of all.
I'm glad Allan helps me with the tricky ones, because I can't know all, in all markets and in every languages.
In my language Golf is not a wind, I'm pretty sure VW had not in mind a wind for that name but the same word can be associated to a wind in German language, it seems.
In my language Zephiro is a gentle breeze, like a wind: that's why for me it was good.
I remember you all that we had connection like "both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands "!
I want to keep it serious, but not that serious:
@Allan: your remarks are precious, keep them coming (togheter with your connections)
@Otto: your link it's good, the meaning was right.
@All: it's a game, not a challenge.
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I never said Golf by itself was a wind, I said Golf was the German form of Gulf. The term "Golf" (or golfe) predated "Gulf"
Gulf: c.1300, from O.Fr. golfe "a gulf, whirlpool," from It. golfo "a gulf, a bay," from L.L. colfos, from Gk. kolpos "bay, gulf," earlier "trough between waves, fold of a garment," originally "bosom," the common notion being "curved shape," from PIE *qwelp- "to vault" (cf. O.E. hwealf, a-hwielfan "to overwhelm"). Latin sinus underwent the same development, being used first for "bosom," later for "gulf." Replaced O.E. sæ-earm. Figurative sense of "a wide interval" is from 1557. The Gulf Stream (1775) takes its name from the Gulf of Mexico.
As to the origins of the car's name being the Gulf Stream, it appears in a few different articles about the car. Here's an example.
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The USofA origin of that piece results in some strange statements.
He says that the Golf is the successor to the Rabbit but I believe that Rabbit was the Golf's name in North America. In about 1974 the Golf and the Polo were named after games - or will someone tell me that Polo was named after a toroid-shaped mint sweet?
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The USofA origin of that piece results in some strange statements.
He says that the Golf is the successor to the Rabbit but I believe that Rabbit was the Golf's name in North America. In about 1974 the Golf and the Polo were named after games - or will someone tell me that Polo was named after a toroid-shaped mint sweet?
Nothing strange about it. In the US, the car sold as the Golf most of the rest of the world, was launched as the Rabbit it its first iteration. Subsequent generations fell in line with the name used elsewhere - "Golf".
Now, here's a site from the UK - land of all that is correct and the font of unassailable and absolute truth - that references the origins of the Golf name:
http://www.1stchoice.co.uk/parts_vwgolf.htm
I eagerly await a response along the lines of "well, that's the internet, bla bla bla". Since the internet is the medium you are using to nay-say my statements, I suppose I should reject your arguments out-of-hand, as well.
Enjoy your mints.
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Who cars how they chose the name really?!
At least it gives me a chance to revive an old joke which was that the Polo was so-called because its price was high enough to make a hole in anybody's mint.
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Lincoln Zephyr and 1940 ZIS 101A - both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries (Abraham Lincoln and Joseph Stalin respectively).
Who's next?
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1940 ZIS 101A and a Datsun 100A
Each shares a name in common with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system. (there's an exit 101A in Seminole County, FL, and an exit 100A in Mount Airy, NC)
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:lmao: I like this!
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Datsun 100A and SS 90. Both brands changed names Nissan - Jaguar
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The SS 90 and the 1926 Ford Model T.
The SS 90 cost 310 Pounds, the '26 T cost 310 Dollars.
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Great ones!
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Let's try:
Ford Model T and TZ Sider 300:
Most T's were painted black while all TZ Siders were only red.
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We already had this one :-\ : White Red Bus 1936 and Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars have only one official colour scheme.
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It is actually a myth that Ford only made black Model Ts - that may have been the case during the war and post-war, but for its first decade or so there were many officially available colours (sorry, colors ;D).
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It is actually a myth that Ford only made black Model Ts - that may have been the case during the war and post-war, but for its first decade or so there were many officially available colours (sorry, colors ;D).
You're right Allan - it's one of those myths like Humphrey Bogart saying "Play it again Sam" or James Cagney saying "You dirty rat". None of them were ever true but you trying telling anyone that!
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The black paint Ford used on the ModelT's was called Japan Black.
It was Asphalt based and fast drying.
So when the assembly lines got too quick for other color paints, they used Japan Black.
by the end of the '20s there were other types of paint that could keep up, and you could buy your new Ford in different colors again.
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If the TZ Sider has been disallowed, I guess we are still stuck with the Ford Model T. So how about;
Ford Model T - the first mass-produced car in America, and...
Citroen Type A - the first mass-produced car in Europe. Does this one work?
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It's perfect, and a new thing to learn!
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Terrific, Djetset.
And we are expecting something at least as spectacular for your 2000th post!
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Citroen Type-A and UrSaab - both are the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts (Citroen produced ammo, Saab produced airplanes)
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This picture somehow looked familiar... http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10622.75 ;D
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UrSaab and Volvo PV 544:
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/Volvo_PV544_1961.jpg)
Both were made into soldout keychains by Playsam:
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/playsam.jpg)
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Nice one! :thumbsup:
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Volvo PV 544 and 1951 Ford Taunus, because both were known in Germany by the nickname 'Buckel...' ('Buckelvolvo' and 'Buckeltaunus')...
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74,128 is the number that connects the post-war Buckel Taunus to this Kia Carens
For the Taunus it is the number of cars produced
For the Kia it is the number of km's on the odometer.
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Volvo PV 544 and 1951 Ford Taunus, because both were known in Germany by the nickname 'Buckel...' ('Buckelvolvo' and 'Buckeltaunus')...
Strange but true, it's not been used before!
74,128 is the number that connects the post-war Buckel Taunus to this Kia Carens
For the Taunus it is the number of cars produced
For the Kia it is the number of km's on the odometer.
That is not valid...the connection has to be valid in general and the link can't be related to a specific exemplar.
Some exceptions can be done, like the 1st one built, a BMW Art Car, a prototype, a car that raced a specific race...etc, but I won't accept connections like "Fiat Punto e Lancia Lybra (both cars were owned by my uncle)" or "Renault Scenic and Citroen Xsara (both parked in front at that shop)".
The connection has to define the car. ;)
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230 cars so far...
Who's next?
Volvo PV 544 and 1951 Ford Taunus, because both were known in Germany by the nickname 'Buckel...'
Ford Taunus 1951 and what car? why?
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1951 Ford Taunus and this Ural 4320 Both are named after a Mountain chain / region.
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I hope in this form it will be easier to check the connections. ;)
BADGES
both manufacturers have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
both manufacturers have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
BODY
both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
both cars are missing of a part (lights)
both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Both cars are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals
both cars are woodies
both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
Both cars had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
Both cars had outside door hinges
both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Both cars have a fibreglass body
both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
both cars have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
both cars have not a bootlid
both cars have the same body style elements
both cars have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis of the same year
both cars have the same top configuration
both cars have the same type of doors
Both cars started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
both coachbuilders were official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country
COMPANY
both cars were built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility
both cars were built in the same city
both cars were built in the same factory building
both cars were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
Both manufacturers changed names
both manufacturers had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one
both manufacturers lost factories to the Germans as part of War Reparations
both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company
both manufacturers tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
both manufacturers were owned by tire companies
both manufacturers were part of the same company (GM)
both manufacturers were sued for making knockoff’s
both manufacturies were created as a joint venture
one manufacturer built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
one manufacturer built both cars
EVENT
both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
both cars debuted in the same event
both cars had a political assassinated in it
both cars had safety heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result
both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
both cars were delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
both cars were saved by the same buyer
both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
both cars won the same award
both cars won the same race (Monaco)
both cars won the same race the same number of times in a row
NAMES\NICKNAMES
both cars are in museums with a name starting with the same letter
both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
both cars are named after a snake
both cars are named after a wind
both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors
both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
both cars are named after meteorological events
both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
both cars are named after the same object\thing (port)
Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
both cars have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
both cars have a name containing the same initials (HRH)
both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
Both cars have a name referring to a person who tend to use a gun
both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
both cars have a name referring to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
both cars have a name referring to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
both cars have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters (JP - JC )
both cars have a type code shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
both cars have the same code name (B11)
both cars have the same name
both cars have the same name in different language
both cars share their name with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system
both cars were advertised using the same word\words
both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries
both manufacturers are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
both manufacturers are named after members of the cat group of animals
both manufacturers are named after metals
Both manufacturers are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
both manufacturers are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
both manufacturers have the same name
both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
both manufacturers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
one car has a name containing the other manufaturer's name
one car is named after a circuit the other drove in
one car is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
one car is named after the driver of the other
one car is named after the man who founded the city that shares the name with the other
one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
one car shares its name with the part the other introduced first time
one car shares its name with the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
one car shares its name with the art movement followed by the painter who paint the other
one car shares its name with the nickname of the other
one car shares its name with the number of cars produced (in that model year) of the other
one car shares its name with the number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
one car shares its name with the special version of the other
one car shares its name with the name of the engine of the other
both cars have a nickname alluding to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates
both cars have a nickname containing the same word
both cars have a nickname that is the same in the same country
one car shares its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
the engine of one car share its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
PERSON
both cars had engineers who worked for the same company\model
both cars had the same engineer
both cars reached production because of visionaries born in the same year
both cars reached production though a cash infusion from the same financier
both cars were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
both cars were designed by a father and son combo
both cars were designed by designers who started on airships
Both cars were designed by designers who would go on to work on versions of the same car
both cars were designed by someone who was of the same origin
both cars were designed by the same man
founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
one builder worked for the builder of the other car
one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
the same man designed some adverts for both cars
the same man drove both cars
the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
the same person designed both their engines
the same person have both cars names in his titles
PRODUCTION
both cars are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep
both cars derived from a prototype made for another company
both cars derived from other cars
both cars derived from the same car
both cars had equivalents in other countries
both cars had later revival projects
both cars had modern day reincarnations
both cars had only one official colour scheme
both cars had racing versions built by the same company
both cars have been affected by superstiction
both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers
Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
both cars were later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative and a military vehicle
both cars were limited production based on production cars
both cars were modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government
both cars were one-off
both cars were produced for more than 20 years
both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
both cars were produced in the same country
both cars were produced in the same year
both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
both cars were RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
both cars were sold at the same amount of money in different value.
both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name
both cars were the base for a flying car
both cars were the base for racing cars
both cars were the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts
both cars were the first cars produced by their makers
both cars were the first mass produced cars in their continent
both cars were the first new model on sale after manufacturers relinquished control to another
both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Both cars were the product of three countries
both cars were used as police cars
Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
one car was the mirror image of the other
the last model of both builders derives from the same car
TECHNICAL SPECS
both cars are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
both cars have a Beetle based replica
both cars have a six-wheeled version
both cars have a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to
both cars have an aluminium box section chassis
both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
both cars have exceptional technical specs
both cars have one identical dimension (width)
both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
both cars have similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
both cars have the same CV number
both cars have the same engine
both cars have the same engine layout (flat-twin)
both cars have the same mileage radius
both cars have the same position of the engine (rear-engine)
both cars have the same seating layout (tandem)
both cars have the same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
both cars have the same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
both cars have the same weight\output ratio
both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
both cars used automatic transmissions despite their racing nature
both cars were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
both cars were available with a supercharger
both cars were available with a Wankel engine
one car was built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
one car was the first to use an engine and the other was the first to use the SuperCharged version of that
the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
UNCATEGORIZED
both are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
both have been named as an inspiration for the same car
both were made into soldout keychains by same company
one car commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
one car inspired the other
one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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1951 Ford Taunus and this Ural 4320 Both are named after a Mountain chain / region.
Sounds suspiciously similar to "both cars are named after geographic places " :-\
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1951 Ford Taunus and 1961 Ford Consul Capri.
The Taunus was the first German Ford to have hydraulic brakes, the Consul Capri was the first English Ford to have front disc brakes.
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1961 Ford Consul Capri and 1959 Citroen Bijou.
The Consul Capri was Ford of England's first post-War pillarless two-door coupe, and...
The Bijou was Citroen of England's first (and only) post-War pillarless two-coupe coupe.
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1961 Ford Consul Capri and 1959 Citroen Bijou
Who's next?
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1959 Citroen Bijou and 1959 Lotus Elite
Both were the first cars with fibreglass bodies made by their manufacturers
(http://www.cartype.com/pics/2917/small/lotus_elite_coupe_59.jpg)
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1959 Citroen Bijou and 1959 Lotus Elite
Both were the first cars with fibreglass bodies made by their manufacturers
(http://www.cartype.com/pics/2917/small/lotus_elite_coupe_59.jpg)
And both bodies designed by Peter Kirwan Taylor...
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1959 Lotus Elite and Ralph Watson's Lycoming Special.
They both had an engine which was not designed to power a car.
The Elite had a Firepump engine, the Lycoming Spl. had an Airplane engine.
( pic shows Jimmy Clark driving...)
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Well the FW (=FeatherWeight) C/Climax was an 1020cc firepump motor but in about 1953 it was adapted for use in cars as the 1097cc FWA (=FeatherWeightAutomobile) and first raced at Le Mans in a Kieft in 1954. A 1460cc version was named FWB (I think B just came after A!) and the 1216cc FWE (=FeatherWeightElite) which used the bore of FWB and stroke of FWA was therefore the third generation of Automobile engine, so the firepump was getting a little remote.
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so the firepump was getting a little remote.
Sorry, I disagree...
It is clearly the same family of engines.
And for example, it still had had some Fire Pump quirks in its Elite version.
Like the high oil consumption.
( because a Firepump needs to be able to run flat out right away )
Jay Chamberlain tried to explain that away in a creative way, in some of his ads....
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Everyday I learn something new!
:thumbsup:
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The Coventry Climax car engine is very closely related to the fire pump engine. I sold this engine a few years ago, it is now powering a Bobtail Cooper, The head and block are the same, just the internals and ancillaries are different.
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I think you are all saying the same, Metalshapes found the connection between the 2 cars (They both had an engine which was not designed to power a car) that is correct because (as also Allan wrote) that engine was indeed born as a firepump. I think Allan was adding more details about the engine that, even if it was born as a firepump, was later developed and in its stage mounted on the Lotus, was remotely connected to a firepump...and that's why I proposed this chain, to learn such details!
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Lycoming Special and the Steyr Allard.
Both vehicles are named after the engines that powered them.
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Steyr Allard, and the Allard Front Engined Dragster.
Both are Racers, built by Sidney Allard that had no cooling system on their ( foreign ) V8 engines.
The Austrian Steyr was aircooled but had no fans, which was fine for a Hillclimb Racecar.
The American Chrysler Hemi had no radiator, which was fine for a 1/4 mile Dragracer.
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Is this the end?
Allard Dragster and what car ? why?
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I lost interest when I had to start justifying my every post to a certain party.
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I lost interest when I had to start justifying my every post to a certain party.
:shakehead:
You have not to justify your posts...as I wrote from the beginning, I can't know everything, that's why I rely on and I trust your connections.
If someone else disagree, well let's ear his opinion and then I'll decide...so far I accepted almost every connection I received (except for immaginary cars or connections already used).
That is a game, I like to keep it like that, if you'd like it too, let's play, if someone takes it serious, we'll accept every comment, but the decision will be taken according to the spirit of this chain: not the holy truth, but a fair and enjoiable game.
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I wasn't referring to you Paul. You've done a brilliant job moderating this thread.
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I know it wasn't me, but it's me who will accept your connections, and I won't be too nitpicking as I never been.
Other comments are welcome, I never learn enough from you guys, but they have to be done in the right mood, not in the "You are wrong, I know it better than you" way but in the "I think you are not considering that.." spirit. ;)
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C'est toujours le ton qui fait la musique...
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I'll try this one:
1961 Allard Dragster and 1929 Napier Golden Arrow
because both cars belong to the Montague collection (National Motor Museum Trust at Beaulieu) where they had a long standstill, and are currently planned to be restored to functional objects.
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We already had this: "both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event"
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But not: both are actually (planned to be) restored to functional objects, did we?
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Nope...
1961 Allard Dragster and 1929 Napier Golden Arrow
because both cars belong to the same collection (Montague collection) and are currently planned to be restored to functional objects
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Napier Golden Arrow and Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet
Both are named after a precious metal object that can be shot using a weapon.
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Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet and Boyd Coddington's Boydster II.
Both streetrods, loosly based on a early Ford, that do not share any acctual parts with the cars they are based on.
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Good!
A quick refresh for our new members:
This is a chain, you have to find a car that can be connected to the previous one for a specific reason.
If this link is easy (same builder, same year, etc) it will worth 1 point, if you'll find a very rare and obscure connection it will worth up to 5 points.
Points go only to the last ring of it: to earn your point(s) the last ring of this chain should remain without a connection for 30 days.
You can use the same link only once.
Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet and Boyd Coddington's Boydster II Both streetrods, based on a early Ford, that do not share any acctual parts with the cars they are based on
Boyd Coddington's Boydster II and what car? why?
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(http://image.rodandcustommagazine.com/f/9611737+w750+st0/0701rc_z_01+1932_ford_roadster+behind_shot.jpg)
It's yellow, a Ford, from 1932, a roadster - is this what you had in mind?
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Not quite.
You can take a look few pages behind, there is a list of all the connection already used and a list of all the cars.
To give you an idea, you can use easy ones (same manufacturer, same name, same country, same designer, both v12, etc) but there are very few left, or more accurate and original ones.
In any case the connection has to define the car in a certain way, you can't use 2 cars owned by your neighbour or 2 cars available for sale on ebay at the same price, but you can use 2 cars owned by the same pilot or by a famous person or 2 cars that were for sale at the same price from the beginning.
Take a look around, it won't take much.
Always keep in mind that it's a game and only points are at stake here, that's why I wouldn't be too strict.
Last thing: only cars...I would like to avoid buses,trucks, airplanes etc.
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Few days and we will have a winner! or not?
Boyd Coddington's Boydster II and what car? why?
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Just a try:
Boyd Coddington's Boydster II and Colman Milne Cardinal
as in both names there are two words for a male person (boy - boy, man - cardinal)...
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:popcorn:
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Sorry, sometimes I just let go the good ones...
Boyd Coddington's Boydster II and Colman Milne Cardinal in both names there are two words for a male person (boy - boy, man - cardinal)...
Colman Milne Cardinal and what car? why?
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Colman Milne Cardinal and Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery.
Both modified longroof Fords with Birdnames, used as working vehicles.
( the Falcon had many Shelby performance upgrades )
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another multipoint one! :thumbsup:
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Let's see if this one works?!
Peter Brock's Ford Falcon (Shelby) Sedan Delivery and the French-market-only special edition MG TF Trophee
Both vehicles exclusively available in white with a double blue stripe colour scheme.
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The French-market-only special edition MG TF Trophee, and Elvis' Viva las Vegas MkVI Elva.
The MG is a British car in France painted in the American racing Colors ( White and Blue stripes )
The Elva was a British car in the USA painted in the French Racing Color ( it was Blue)
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Better pic...
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Let's bring it back.
Let's see if this one works?!
Peter Brock's Ford Falcon (Shelby) Sedan Delivery and the French-market-only special edition MG TF Trophee
Both vehicles exclusively available in white with a double blue stripe colour scheme.
we already had that, sorry.
Let's get back to:
Colman Milne Cardinal and Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery Both modified longroof Fords with Birdnames, used as working vehicles.
Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery and what car ? why ?
(@metalshapes: I prefer connections that define a precise model or exemplar, when possible)
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(@metalshapes: I prefer connections that define a precise model or exemplar, when possible)
You are right... ;)
Possibillities to do with color combinations are endless, and probably not enough of a challenge...
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Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery
Studebaker Lark
Both model lines were named for birds, and marked their respective maker's foray into building smaller vehicles.
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Studebaker Lark and Austin A40 Dorset.
Both were imitated as a children’s car: Larkette and Austin J40,.
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Austin A40 Dorset and the Ford Anglia ( Popular )
Both bodystyles were the cars to beat in the old Gasser Dragrace classes.
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Time for a sum up:
BADGES
both manufacturers have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
both manufacturers have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
BODY
both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
both cars are missing of a part (lights)
both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Both cars are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals
both cars are woodies
both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
both cars had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
both cars had outside door hinges
both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
both cars have a fibreglass body
both cars were the first cars with fibreglass bodies made by their manufacturers and designed by the same man
both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
both cars have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
both cars have not a bootlid
both cars have the same body style elements
both cars have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis of the same year
both cars have the same top configuration
both cars have the same type of doors
Both cars started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
both coachbuilders were official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
both bodystyles were the cars to beat in the old Gasser Dragrace classes
both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country
COMPANY
both cars were built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility
both cars were built in the same city
both cars were built in the same factory building
both cars were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
Both manufacturers changed names
both manufacturers had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one
both manufacturers lost factories to the Germans as part of War Reparations
both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company
both manufacturers tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
both manufacturers were owned by tire companies
both manufacturers were part of the same company (GM)
both manufacturers were sued for making knockoff’s
both manufacturies were created as a joint venture
one manufacturer built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
one manufacturer built both cars
EVENT
both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
both cars belong to the same collection and are going to be restored
both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
both cars debuted in the same event
both cars had a political assassinated in it
both cars had safety heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result
both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
both cars were delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
both cars were saved by the same buyer
both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
both cars won the same award
both cars won the same race (Monaco)
both cars won the same race the same number of times in a row
NAMES\NICKNAMES
both cars are in museums with a name starting with the same letter
both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
both cars are named after a snake
both cars are named after a bird and marked their maker's foray into smaller vehicles
both cars are named after a wind
both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors
both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
both cars are named after meteorological events
both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
both cars are named after the same object\thing (port)
both cars are named after the same animal (wild horse) in their respective country (mustang - brumby)
both cars are named after the engines that powered them
both cars are named after a precious metal object that can be shot using a weapon
Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
both cars have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
both cars have a name containing the same initials (HRH)
both cars have a name containing two words for a male person
both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
Both cars have a name referring to a person who tend to use a gun
both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
both cars have a name referring to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
both cars have a name referring to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
both cars have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters (JP - JC )
both cars have a type code shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
both cars have the same code name (B11)
both cars have the same name
both cars have the same name in different language
both cars have the same make and model name, both indicative of future production models
both cars share their name with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system
both cars were advertised using the same word\words
both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries
both manufacturers are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
both manufacturers are named after members of the cat group of animals
both manufacturers are named after metals
Both manufacturers are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
both manufacturers are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
both manufacturers have the same name
both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
both manufacturers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
one car has a name containing the other manufaturer's name
one car is named after a circuit the other drove in
one car is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
one car is named after the driver of the other
one car is named after the man who founded the city that shares the name with the other
one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
one car shares its name with the part the other introduced first time
one car shares its name with the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
one car shares its name with the art movement followed by the painter who paint the other
one car shares its name with the nickname of the other
one car shares its name with the number of cars produced (in that model year) of the other
one car shares its name with the number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
one car shares its name with the special version of the other
one car shares its name with the name of the engine of the other
both cars have a nickname alluding to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates
both cars have a nickname containing the same word
both cars have a nickname that is the same in the same country
one car shares its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
the engine of one car share its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
PERSON
both cars had engineers who worked for the same company\model
both cars had the same engineer
both cars reached production because of visionaries born in the same year
both cars reached production though a cash infusion from the same financier
both cars were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
both cars were designed by a father and son combo
both cars were designed by designers who started on airships
Both cars were designed by designers who would go on to work on versions of the same car
both cars were designed by someone who was of the same origin
both cars were designed by the same man
both cars were owned by the same ex-president.
founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
one builder worked for the builder of the other car
one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
the same man designed some adverts for both cars
the same man drove both cars
the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
the same person designed both their engines
the same person have both cars names in his titles
PRODUCTION
both cars are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep
both cars are based on a early Ford, not sharing any actual part with the cars they are based on
both cars derived from a prototype made for another company
both cars derived from other cars
both cars derived from the same car
both cars had equivalents in other countries
both cars had later revival projects
both cars were imitated as a children’s car
both cars had modern day reincarnations
both cars had only one official colour scheme
both cars had racing versions built by the same company
both cars have been affected by superstiction
both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
both cars had a prototype build on their chassis by the same designer, in the same year, with similarity in the design
both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers
Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
both cars were later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative and a military vehicle
both cars were limited production based on production cars
both cars were modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government
both cars were modified longroof Fords with bird names, used as working vehicles
both cars were one-off
both cars were produced for more than 20 years
both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
both cars were produced in the same country
both cars were produced in the same year
both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
both cars were replaced by a newer model with the same name
both cars were RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
both cars were sold at the same amount of money in different value.
both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name
both cars were the base for a flying car
both cars were the base for racing cars
both cars were the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts
both cars were the first of their brand introducing the same body style in the same period (2-door pillarless coupe)
both cars were the first of their brand introducing a braking system in their country (hydraulic-front discs)
both cars were the first cars produced by their makers
both cars were the first mass produced cars in their continent
both cars were the first new model on sale after manufacturers relinquished control to another
both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Both cars were the product of three countries
both cars were used as police cars
Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
one car was the mirror image of the other
the last model of both builders derives from the same car
TECHNICAL SPECS
both cars are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
both cars are racers, built by the same man, that had no cooling system on their foreign engines
both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
both cars have a Beetle based replica
both cars have a six-wheeled version
both cars have a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to
both cars have an aluminium box section chassis
both cars have an engine which was not designed to power a car
both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
both cars have exceptional technical specs
both cars have one identical dimension (width)
both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
both cars have similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
both cars have the same CV number
both cars have the same engine
both cars have the same engine layout (flat-twin)
both cars have the same mileage radius
both cars have the same position of the engine (rear-engine)
both cars have the same seating layout (tandem)
both cars have the same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
both cars have the same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
both cars have the same weight\output ratio
both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
both cars used automatic transmissions despite their racing nature
both cars were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
both cars were available with a supercharger
both cars were available with a Wankel engine
one car was built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
one car was the first to use an engine and the other was the first to use the SuperCharged version of that
the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
UNCATEGORIZED
both are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
both have been named as an inspiration for the same car
both were made into soldout keychains by same company
one car commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
one car inspired the other
one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
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In the post above there are all the connections already used.
In the link below, the list of all the cars with those connections.
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6358.675
Who wants to be the next?
Since this one is going on for such a long time (January 01, 2009) from now on, points will go to the connection that will stand for two weeks!
It's an easy game, you just have to find a car that can be connected with the last one of the chain, the harder the connection is, the higher score you make.
If someone finds a car that can't be connected to any other car in the world without using again one of the links above, he gets the point.
Austin A40 Dorset and the Ford Anglia ( Popular ) both bodystyles were the cars to beat in the old Gasser Dragrace classes.
Ford Anglia (Popular) and what car? why?
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Ford Anglia and the Ford Pinto
Both were replaced by a newer Ford model tagged "Escort"
Here's a Pinto with an Escort of another sort.
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Good!
Ford Anglia and the Ford Pinto both were replaced by a newer Ford model tagged "Escort"
In 2 weeks we will see if we have a winner...
Ford Pinto and what car? why?
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Ford Pinto and Ford Mustang II.
Both had a prototype build on their respective chassis by the same design office (Ghia) in the same year (1975) , which had the same B-pillar-style. Both these prototypes did not make it to production.
(This is a try, not perfectly sure if it qualifies)
(http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11353.0;id=13898;image) (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=11353.0;id=15101;image)
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That is a perfect multipoint one.
It's not mandatory, but highly appreciate a picture of the car, in order to avoid a simple list of names. ;)
Ford Pinto and Ford Mustang II. Both had a prototype build on their chassis by the same designer, in the same year, with similarity in the design.
Ford Mustang II and what car? why?
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Good!
Ford Anglia and the Ford Pinto both were replaced by a newer Ford model tagged "Escort"
In 2 weeks we will see if we have a winner...
Ford Pinto and what car? why?
Did I understand correct If I name a second link that links these cars then the point is not awarded?
Does it need to be a new link if this is true? (to prevent constantly asking)
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I'm not expecting anyone to read 34 pages to get the rules, so your asking is welcome. ;)
Your car (Ford Mustang II) is now the last ring of this chain.
If nobody else finds a car that can be connected to yours within 2 weeks, you'll be the winner, you'll get the points and this game will be over.
If you want, after 1 week you can continue the chain with another car, but you'll give others the chance to continue, then.
If you, or anyone else, have got any question about, don't hesitate.
Ford Mustang II and what car? why?
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Ford Mustang II and............Ford Mustang II
Same name used for two different cars, both indicative of future Mustang production models (though bearing little resemble to the production Mustang II)
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I'm not expecting anyone to read 34 pages to get the rules, so your asking is welcome. ;)
Your car (Ford Mustang II) is now the last ring of this chain.
If nobody else finds a car that can be connected to yours within 2 weeks, you'll be the winner, you'll get the points and this game will be over.
If you want, after 1 week you can continue the chain with another car, but you'll give others the chance to continue, then.
If you, or anyone else, have got any question about, don't hesitate.
Ford Mustang II and what car? why?
Because I'm not the last ring of the chain anymore (it is the Ford Mustang II, I think), does that mean I am off the hook?
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That's an original one!
(don't forget to add a year, when possible)
Ford Mustang II and Ford Mustang II 1963 both cars have the same make and model name, both indicative of future production models
Ford Mustang II 1963 and what car? why?
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Because I'm not the last ring of the chain anymore (it is the Ford Mustang II, I think), does that mean I am off the hook?
Now Otto's car is the last one, and he is going to get the points in 2 weeks if nobody else comes with another one.
You can be the one finding the next one.
You are always on the hook, when you are not, you are winning.
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That's an original one!
(don't forget to add a year, when possible)
Ford Mustang II and Ford Mustang II 1963 both cars have the same make and model name, both indicative of future production models
Ford Mustang II 1963 and what car? why?
How about Ford Mustang II and Subaru Brumby (both named after wild horses - Mustang is the USA's wild horse and Brumby is what they call them in Australia)?
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It's perfect.
When you are in doubt, check the connections above, to see if they have been already used...if you do not have time but want to try, don't worry, I'll do it.
(when possible choose a year for your car and don't forget a pic)
Ford Mustang II 1963 and Subaru Brumby both cars are named after the same animal (wild horse) in the respective country (Mustang - Brumby )
Subaru Brumby and what car? why?
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Subaru Brumby and Jeep, Model M-38A1
(http://digiads.com.au/carsales/used-cars/car_ad_photos/digiads_car_ads_98073_1.jpg) (http://www.sportscarmarket.com/img/newslinks/reagan-jeepbzio.jpg)
Both cars have been owned by Ronald Reagan and have 4-wheel drive.
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:thumbsup:
Subaru Brumby and Jeep Model M-38A1 both cars have been owned by Ronald Reagan and have 4-wheel drive
Jeep Model M-38A1 and what car? why?
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Jeep Model M-38A1 and Bentley Continental DC
Both feature 24 volt electrics
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Bentley Continental DC and the 2009 Mullen L1X-75 GTEV electric car
Both have a carbon fiber body and are electric powered
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In order to really make this a Neverending Chain, wouldn't somebody have to connect back to the very first car (Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956)? Or has that been brought up already?
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The goal is to find a car that can't be connected with any other car with an original connection.
It is supposed to be 'neverending' because there are unlimited links out there...
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In order to really make this a Neverending Chain, wouldn't somebody have to connect back to the very first car (Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956)? Or has that been brought up already?
But wouldn't that bring it to an end?!
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(http://www.oompa.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/1976_amc_pacer_15_sb1.jpg)
Contentious one this one.
The 2009 Mullen L1X-75 GTEV electric car and the AMC Pacer. Both cars have the same colour (told you it was contentious) and both cars have been considered as being ugly (I know, contentious).
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In order to really make this a Neverending Chain, wouldn't somebody have to connect back to the very first car (Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956)? Or has that been brought up already?
But wouldn't that bring it to an end?!
Nope, because the Abarth can be connectet to other cars than the Porsche (the 2nd in this chain).
Contentious one this one.
The 2009 Mullen L1X-75 GTEV electric car and the AMC Pacer. Both cars have the same colour (told you it was contentious) and both cars have been considered as being ugly (I know, contentious).
The connection has to define the car.
The colour (already used BTW) is not a caracteristic of these cars, but they just share the same colour incidentally.
The uglyness of them has to be a well estabilished feeling (like the Aztec, the new Multipla, etc...)
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The uglyness of them has to be a well estabilished feeling (like the Aztec, the new Multipla, etc...)
...and the Citroen Ami! ;D
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Assuming the most recent colour/ugly suggestions have been discounted, then back to the Mullen L1X-75 GTEV.
So, the American Mullen L1X-75 GTEV and the British Avelle GTA, as they both share the same body shell.
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Perfect!
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The Avelle GTA and the Lamborghini Countach
They both have a space frame chassis
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Outrageously right!
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As an aside, the Avelle GTA and Lamborghini Countach are both also mid-engined with a space frame chassis :P
Anyway, how about the Lamborghini Countach and the Alfa Romeo 33 Carabo, as both cars have switch blade-type scissor doors (and are both Bertone designs of course!).
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We already had this
GAZ-18 and Hanomag 1,3. both cars have the same type of doors (suicide). :-\
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Lamborghini Countach and the Len Terry designed LT24 by Leda Cars.
Both had an engine that was mounted lengthwise in the chassis, just ahead of the rear axle, with the power take off at the front.
Both had the power directed back with a driveshaft to mate up with the differential that was mounted behind the engine.
( sorry no pic, I'll have to scan it out of a book )
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I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...
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:cheer: :cheer: Post 100000 :cheer: :cheer:
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Woo-hoo! Another milestone. :hyper:
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I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...
I can P/M you the Info.
And which book its in.
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I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...
I can P/M you the Info.
And which book its in.
I believe you (but you can PM the title of the book if you like, I won't use it for further puzzles) but it was post #99999 and I had to write something to reach 100000... ;D
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I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...
I can P/M you the Info.
And which book its in.
I believe you (but you can PM the title of the book if you like, I won't use it for further puzzles) but it was post #99999 and I had to write something to reach 100000... ;D
Cool... ;D
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On the Countach.
Stanzani knew the big V12 would inevitably made the rear end heavier than the front, thus resulting in excessive oversteer and difficult handling. To make Countach more balanced, he created a new idea - placing the gearbox and clutch in front of the engine, that is, in the wide central tunnel between the driver and the passenger. There was another advantage: the linkage between shifter and gearbox was vastly shortened so that gearshift became more precise and effortless.
Nevertheless, there were some drawbacks. The output from the gearbox was transmitted back to the rear axle via a drive shaft locating underneath the engine, inside the sump. Inevitably, the engine had to be raised for a few inches to accommodate the drive shaft. As a result, center of gravity was raised, too.
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On the LT24.
LT24 SPORTS CAR.
This road car reached the first-prototype stage and covered over 2000miles of strenious testing, but unfortunately the project went into hibernation with the liquidation of Leda Cars in July 1972.
And.
Transmission from the engine to the clutch was by means of an enclosed roller-chain drive, an exposed( standard Zodiac) propeller shaft and a second identical chain drive, as shown in the accompanying schematic layout.
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Len Terry designed LT24 by Leda Cars and the 1947-'48 Dommartin (a rebuilt based on the French SEFAC project 1939)
Both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race because of a bancrupty
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1947-'48 Dommartin and the 1956 Ferrari D50.
Both were GP cars designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time, and both were recycled versions of another GP race car.
( SEFAC & Lancia )
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Len Terry designed LT24 by Leda Cars and the 1947-'48 Dommartin (a rebuilt based on the French SEFAC project 1939)
Both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race because of a bancrupty
Perfect (as I understood LT24 was supposed to be a road car, but it never entered a race, after all...)
1947-'48 Dommartin and the 1956 Ferrari D50.
Both were GP cars designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time, and both were recycled versions of another GP race car.
( SEFAC & Lancia )
A good multipoint one!
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1956 Ferrari D50 and the 1955 Mercedes Benz W196 L8
Both cars did not finish just one grand prix in their year because of transmission falure (MB 1955 Monaco.Ferrari 1956 Belgium )
and still both cars took the championship in their year. (that they where both driven by the same man was already done) but both cars became wordchampion with the same driver Juan Manuel Fangio
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Wow!
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1955 Mercedes Benz W196 L8 and Lotus 79.
Because of their dominance in the 1955 and 1978 seasons, in the hands of Fangio/Moss, and Andretti/Peterson.
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I din't get this.... :-\
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I din't get this.... :-\
Fangio/Moss came in 1 - 2 throughout the season, so did Andretti/ Peterson.
I remember people talking about the '55 season while the Lotus 79 was steamrolling the opposition.
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:thumbsup:
Got it!
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Lotus 79 and the Lola T294 BMW
Both cars crached on the Monza Circuit leading to the tragic death of both its drivers
Lotus 79 1978 Ronnie Peterson (S)
Peterson died from injuries received in a first lap collision at the Italian Grand Prix.
Lola T294 BMW 1974 Silvio Moser (CH)
Moser died from severe injuries without regaining consciousness, some time after being involved in an accident while driving his Lola-BMW in the 1000 km sports car race at Monza.
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Lola T294 BMW and Osella PA9 BMW
Both BMW powered Group6 Sportsracingcars that were Road Track race cars before Mauro Nesti won European Hillclimb Championships in them.
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Maserati Bora and Mercedes 600 : two cars with powered but non-electric adjusted seats ! The Maser used LHM pressure to move seats, the 600 choose simply air...
Of course, the über-Merc had more, pneumatic windows, suspension, boot lid !
Sorry, but I don't know how to insert pictures...
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I'll never stop learning fro you...
cmetisse your connection is good, but you have to continue the chain from the last ...ring, that is the Osella PA9 BMW.
Lola T294 BMW and Osella PA9 BMW Both BMW powered Gr6 Sports cars, former Road Track race cars, European Hillclimb Championships winners with same pilot
Osella PA9 BMW and what car? why?
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OK ! Sorry, I've misunderstood... and broken the chain ! :P
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Osella PA9 BMW and the Chiribiri Monza (1.5 litre)
Both cars where driven by Italian racecar drivers who started their carreer racing motorcycles
Osella PA9 BMW Mauro Nesti and Chiribiri Monza Tazio Giorgio Nuvolari
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OK ! Sorry, I've misunderstood... and broken the chain ! :P
No problem at all..as you can see it can be restored at any time ;).
There are few, simple rules: continue the chain, find always new connections, you can choose any (real) car you decide (even more than once), the connection has to define the car ('both cars are yellow' or 'my parents had both of them' are not valid ones) and you can not continue if you are the last ring unless a week is passed without any valid reply. If 2 weeks pass by without any other ring, the last one only get the points. Simple connections ('both cars have the same engine') get one point, hardest connections up to 5 point.
Osella PA9 BMW and the Chiribiri Monza (1.5 litre) Both cars where driven by Italian racecar drivers who started their carreer racing motorcycles
:thumbsup:
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Chiribiri Monza (1.5 litre) and 1922 Vulcan 20 HP Tourer
Chiribiri & C and Vulcan Motor Engineering both stopped production of passenger cars in 1928.
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Nobody thought of this before!
Some sources report that Lancia took over Chiribiri in 1927, but It's fine for me!
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1922 Vulcan 20 HP Tourer and the 1908 Rapid passeger car
Both cars where produced by a company that was founded by two brothers
Brothers Thomas and Joseph Hampson - Vulcan Motor Manufacturing and Trading
Brothers Max en Morris Grabowsky - Grabowsky Motor Vehicle Company
Both cars where produced by a comany that had a change in name
Vulcan Motor Manufacturing and Trading into Vulcan Motor and Engineering
Grabowsky Motor Vehicle Company into Rapid Motor Vehicle Company
Both cars where produced by a company that also produced trucks delivery vans and busses
and both cars where produced by a company that in the year 1906 had to move to a bigger premises because of a company expansion
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Wow...
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Great game PJ :thumbsup:
This is fun :D
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Thank you... you are proving what my idea was: each one of us has got a really deep knowledge, and we can apply it at almost every car...
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1908 Rapid passeger car and 1954 Packard Panther
Both companies gave out Stock Certificates.
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Pics..
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Another good one!
Since it is not against the rules, connections between manufacturers may keep this chain alive for a long time!
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1954 Packard Panther and the Oldsmobile F-88
Both cars where handbuilt two seater fiberglass convertible conceptcars from 1954
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We already had "both are fiberglass" and "both are one-off"...the rest is good!
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Oh ok... sorry! :D
Both cars where handbuilt two seater convertible cars from 1954
that's cleaned up
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Oldsmobile F-88 and 1961 Ferrari California Spyder.
They both set records for highest amount paid at auctions.
( Ferrari for highest amount ever, Olds for highest amount at B-J )
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Ferrari California Spyder and the Porsche 911 2.2
Both cars came out of a model line of wich each manufacturer designed and produced their largest number of different models
Ferrari California Spyder from the 250 series
Porsche 911 2.2 from the 911 series
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Keep on...! :thumbsup:
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Porsche 911 2.2 and Mercedes MGP W01
Both got a increase in wheelbase to improve the handling.
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Since you seems to enjoy this chain, I'll spend few lines to explain, again, the point-system:
Generic link (same name-same builder-same year-both FWD- etc..): 1 point. it can be used for thousands of different cars.
Harder link (model's name & driver's name- both production ended the same year- etc..) 2 points. can be used for different cars, but not many
Very hard link (both cars had a political assassinated in it- etc..) 3 points. few cars can share this link
Impossible link 4 points. probably only these 2 cars shares this link
It's just an example, since only the last one will get point(s) but it can give you an idea on which connections aim...
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.....and you get the point(s) if the connection sticks for two weeks..... right?
So..... we are back in F1......
Mercedes MGP W01 and the 2000 Sauber C19
Both cars share the same supplier in fuel and tires (Petronas & Bridgestone)
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2000 Sauber C19 and Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe.
They both have the same sponsor.
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Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe and the 1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile
Both cars have names refering too rockbands
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1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile and VW Bug "Herbie"
Both were Movie/TV cars, that had a "Regular" and a "Wheelstander" Version.
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.....and you get the point(s) if the connection sticks for two weeks..... right?
That seems to be the hardest part...
Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe and the 1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile
Both cars have names refering too rockbands
we had 'polish heavy metals band', with this I'll consider all the music bands.
1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile and VW Bug "Herbie"
Both were Movie/TV cars, that had a "Regular" and a "Wheelstander" Version.
we had 'both cars star in a film' and the was there a "wheelstander version" ?
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Sorry, I didnt realise we had that one already...
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That's why I'm here ;)
Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe and the 1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile Both cars have names refering too music bands
1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile and ? why?
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1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile and James Dean's Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard"
Work on both cars was done by Dean Jeffries, but claimed by George Barris.
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that is really new: Jame's Dean 550 was done by Jeffries and claimed by Barris?
I read that Barris bought the wrecked car for his 'circus'....
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that is really new: Jame's Dean 550 was done by Jeffries and claimed by Barris?
I read that Barris bought the wrecked car for his 'circus'....
Yep.
Jeffries did the lettering & numbers.
Barris did the "Smoke and Mirrors" thing with his circus, and invented the myth that it was cursed...
Edit.
Of course, both gentlemen claim that they did the work.
But who would you believe....? ;)
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You'll never stop learning!
1966 Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile and James Dean's Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard" Work on both cars was done by Dean Jeffries, but claimed by George Barris.
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James Dean's Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard" and Tom Mix's 1937 Cord 812 Phaeton
Both car where involved in a car chrash while been driven by actors who both did not survive
Tom Mix October 12 1940 Arizona State Route 79
James Dean September 30 1955 U.S. Route 466
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8BRbM52gpc :thumbsup:
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Tom Mix's 1937 Cord 812 Phaeton and 1937 Duesenberg J Rollston Convertible Berline.
Both these cars were made in car companies owned by E.L Cord, in the last year of their production.
( the last year of production is kind of close to a link I added recently, and the "owned by E L Cord" would not stand by itself.
So, PJ, please let me know if this one is OK or if we should keep looking for a better link...)
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Why do you say " "owned by E L Cord" would not stand by itself" ?
It seems a new one to me...
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Oh...OK. I didn't check, but I guessed it'd be taken.
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1937 Duesenberg J Rollston Convertible Berline and the Daimler EL 24
Both cars where produced by manufactures who where building rolling chassis for other manufactures/ coachbuilders to body
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Daimler EL 24 and the 1937 Cord 812 Phaeton.
They both had a 4 speed pre-selector gearbox.
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1937 Cord 812/SC and 1940 American Bantam Hollywood: Both cars were modified by Alex Tremulis to create entirely new models that initially were never approved by the owners of their respective companies.
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/AlexandChrissie812SC-1.jpg)
Alex and Chrissie Tremulis and his gleaming sidepipes(c.1960)
(http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu248/gyronaut/AlexandBantam.jpg)
Alex Tremulis and the first Bantam Hollywood (1940)
Alex Tremulis on the 812/SC: Then E. L. Cord came to look at the Cord. He said, “My name happens to be on that car, how come I didn’t know about this?” I told him there wasn’t time. And I added, “I just figured I could do no wrong because you never objected to the ‘Wrath of Gods’ pouring out the sides of the Duesenbergs, so how could I go wrong with the two pipes on the sides here?” Well, the car turned out to be sensational; we set records in sales, the highest record in sales in its history at the ten day automobile show.
Alex Tremulis on the Bantam: That afternoon a Bantam Coupe arrived. I got the shop guys in to work. Told them to get a torch and cut the entire roof off. The next day Roy Evans came in and said, “I’ve changed my mind. You should have waited. You didn’t even have a contract, how do you know you are even going to get paid for this. Now you’ve wrecked a coupe.”
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1940 American Bantam Hollywood and 2005 Fiat Multipla 115 JTD Cinecittà.
One car shares a name with America’s famous film city, the other is named after its European counterpart.
In its heyday, Cinecittà was often referred to as ’Hollywood on the Tiber’.
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I lived 14 years few hundreds of meters from Cinecittà...
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2005 Fiat Multipla 115 JTD Cinecittà and the Matra-Simca Bagheera
Borh cars where available with a third front seat
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Let's try "Matra-Simca Bagheera[/b"] and "the Pink Panther car". Both have a name in common with a cartoon figure.
(http://www.freewebs.com/welpenrumst/bagheera.jpg) (http://www.blavish.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/pink-panther-car-2-15-07.jpg)
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The Pink Panther car, and Doug Rose's Green Mamba .
Driver position in both cars was centered, and in front of the Front Axle Centerline.
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Doug Rose's Green Mamba and the BeefEater & engineering company Big Kahuna concept hybrid barbeque car.
Both car are quite capable of roasting a nice chicken
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It's funny, but it doesn't work...
Even a Fiat Punto and a Buick Roadmaster can be used to run over a pedestrian, but it won't make a valid connection.... ;)
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Doug Rose's Green Mamba and the Bennet Drag Car
Both cars have an open monococ with a rollcage
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Bennet Drag Car and MCC Smart Fortwo
Both cars have front and rear tires of different sizes.
(http://murbella.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/smart-car.jpg?w=400&h=297)
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MCC Smart Fortwo and Smart Roadster.
Both have a 'Tridion safety cell'
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Smart Roadster and Mc Laren MP4/2
Both makes are related to Swiss watch manufacturers.
Smart was founded by Nicholas Hayek, the maker of Swatch watches.
Mc Laren was part of the TAG group, who also makes TAG-Heuer watches.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/ProstAlain_McLarenMP4-2B_1985.jpg)
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Mc Laren MP4/2 and the Renault F1 V6 turbo
Both cars where owned by F1 teams who in that time had a connection to brake suplier Messier-Bugatti wich pioneered the use of carbon brakes in F1 in 1983, when they equipped both Renault and McLaren.
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Renault F1 V6 turbo ( I'm going with the '83 because of the pic ) and the BRM P83.
The engines that were used in both of these Formula 1 racecars were also supplied to Lotus to use in their Formula 1 cars of the period.
(Renault Turbo V6 and BRM H16)
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One week is gone...are we close to a solution?
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BRM P83 and the Lola T332
Each was developed for one series (F1 and F5000, respectively) and re purposed for another series (F5000 and Can-Am, respectively)
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Lola T332 and Lotus Eleven.
Both very succesfull racingcars of which, beside the works built cars ( about 36 332's and 271 Elevens), an unknown number of Replicas and Kits were built.
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..and another original one!
Good!
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Lotus Eleven and what car? why?
It seems we will have a winner soon...or not?
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Lotus Eleven and the Bugatti Type 35C
Both cars are known as "most succesful race car'' by these manufactures
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Bugatti 35 and Simca Versailles.
(http://photo-voiture.motorlegend.com/edito/simca-vedette-24948.jpg)
Both cars were first made with a 8-cylinder engine and later had a 4-cylinder version (Bugatti 37 and Simca Ariane)
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Good!
Time for a summary:
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BADGES
both manufacturers have a badge featuring the coat of arms of their cities of origin
both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
both manufacturers have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
BODY
both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
both cars are missing of a part (lights)
both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
both cars are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals
both cars are woodies
both cars are handbuilt two seater convertible cars from the same year
both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
both cars had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
both cars had outside door hinges
both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
both cars have a fibreglass body
both cars have a carbon fiber body and are electric powered
both cars have front and rear tires of different sizes
both cars have a 'Tridion safety cell'
both cars were the first cars with fibreglass bodies made by their manufacturers and designed by the same man
both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
both cars have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
both cars have not a bootlid
both cars have the same body style elements
both cars have the same body shell
Borh cars have a third front seat
both cars have a space frame chassis
both cars have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis of the same year
both cars have the same top configuration
both cars have the same type of doors
both cars have an increased wheelbase to improve the handling
both cars have the driver position in the center in front of the Front Axle Centerline
Both cars started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
both coachbuilders were official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
both bodystyles were the cars to beat in the old Gasser Dragrace classes
both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country
COMPANY
both cars were built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility
both cars were built in the same city
both cars were built in the same factory building
both cars were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
Both manufacturers changed names
both manufacturers had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one
both manufacturers lost factories to the Germans as part of War Reparations
both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company
both manufacturers tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
both manufacturers were owned by tire companies
both manufacturers were part of the same company (GM)
both manufacturers were sued for making knockoff’s
both manufacturies were created as a joint venture
one manufacturer built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
one manufacturer built both cars
EVENT
both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
both cars belong to the same collection and are going to be restored
both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
both cars debuted in the same event
both cars had a political assassinated in it
both cars had safety heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result
both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
both cars were delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
both cars were saved by the same buyer
both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
both cars won the same award
both cars won the same race (Monaco)
both cars won the same race the same number of times in a row
Both cars cracked on the same Circuit leading to the tragic death of both its drivers
Both car where involved in a car chrash while been driven by actors who both did not survive
both cars dominated one F1 season, in the hands of Fangio/Moss, and Andretti/Peterson
NAMES\NICKNAMES
both cars are in museums with a name starting with the same letter
both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
both cars are named after a snake
both cars are named after a bird and marked their maker's foray into smaller vehicles
both cars are named after a wind
both cars are named after a cartoon figure
both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors
both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
both cars are named after meteorological events
both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
both cars are named after the same object\thing (port)
both cars are named after the same animal (wild horse) in their respective country (mustang - brumby)
both cars are named after the engines that powered them
both cars are named after a precious metal object that can be shot using a weapon
Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
both cars have a name containing a letter from the Greek alphabet
both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
both cars have a name containing the same initials (HRH)
both cars have a name containing two words for a male person
both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
Both cars have a name referring to a person who tend to use a gun
both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
both cars have a name referring to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
both cars have a name referring to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
Both cars have a name referring to music bands
both cars have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters (JP - JC )
both cars have a type code shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
both cars have the same code name (B11)
both cars have the same name
both cars have the same name in different language
both cars have the same make and model name, both indicative of future production models
both cars share their name with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system
both cars were advertised using the same word\words
both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries
both manufacturers are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
both manufacturers are named after members of the cat group of animals
both manufacturers are named after metals
Both manufacturers are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
both manufacturers are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
both manufacturers have the same name
both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
both manufacturers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
one car has a name containing the other manufaturer's name
one car is named after a circuit the other drove in
one car is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
one car is named after the driver of the other
one car is named after the man who founded the city that shares the name with the other
one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
one car is named after America’s famous film city, the other is named after its European counterpart
one car shares its name with the part the other introduced first time
one car shares its name with the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
one car shares its name with the art movement followed by the painter who paint the other
one car shares its name with the nickname of the other
one car shares its name with the number of cars produced (in that model year) of the other
one car shares its name with the number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
one car shares its name with the special version of the other
one car shares its name with the name of the engine of the other
both cars have a nickname alluding to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates
both cars have a nickname containing the same word
both cars have a nickname that is the same in the same country
one car shares its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
the engine of one car share its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
PERSON
both cars had engineers who worked for the same company\model
both cars had the same engineer
both cars reached production because of visionaries born in the same year
both cars reached production though a cash infusion from the same financier
both cars were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
both cars were designed by a father and son combo
both cars were designed by designers who started on airships
Both cars were designed by designers who would go on to work on versions of the same car
both cars were designed by someone who was of the same origin
both cars were designed by the same man
both cars were modified by the same man to create entirely new models that initially were not approved by the owners of their respective companies.
both cars were done by the same man, but claimed by another one
Both cars where driven by Italian racecar drivers who started their carreer racing motorcycles
both cars were owned by the same ex-president.
Both cars where produced by a company that was founded by two brothers
founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
one builder worked for the builder of the other car
one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
both companies were owned by the same man, in the last year of their production
the builder of the 1st car was a pilot in the 2nd
the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
the same man designed some adverts for both cars
the same man drove both cars
the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
the same person designed both their engines
the same person have both cars names in his titles
PRODUCTION
both cars are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep
both cars are based on a early Ford, not sharing any actual part with the cars they are based on
both cars are succesfull racingcars of which, beside the works built cars, replicas and Kits were built
both cars derived from a prototype made for another company
both cars derived from other cars
both cars derived from the same car
both cars had equivalents in other countries
both cars had later revival projects
both cars were imitated as a children’s car
both cars had modern day reincarnations
both cars had only one official colour scheme
both cars had racing versions built by the same company
both cars have been affected by superstiction
both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
both cars had a prototype build on their chassis by the same designer, in the same year, with similarity in the design
Both cars came out of a model line of wich each manufacturer designed and produced their largest number of different models
both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers
Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
both cars were later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative and a military vehicle
both cars were limited production based on production cars
both cars were modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government
both cars were modified longroof Fords with bird names, used as working vehicles
both cars were one-off
both cars were produced for more than 20 years
both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
both cars were produced in the same country
both cars were produced in the same year
both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
both cars were replaced by a newer model with the same name
both cars were RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
both cars were sold at the same amount of money in different value.
both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name
both cars were the base for a flying car
both cars were the base for racing cars
both cars were the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts
both cars were the first of their brand introducing the same body style in the same period (2-door pillarless coupe)
both cars were the first of their brand introducing a braking system in their country (hydraulic-front discs)
both cars were the first cars produced by their makers
both cars were the first mass produced cars in their continent
both cars were the first new model on sale after manufacturers relinquished control to another
both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
both cars were the product of three countries
both cars were used as police cars
both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race because of a bancrupty
both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
both companies stopped production of passenger cars the same year
both companies were building rolling chassis for other manufactures/ coachbuilders to body
one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
one car was the mirror image of the other
the last model of both builders derives from the same car
TECHNICAL SPECS
both cars are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
both cars are racers, built by the same man, that had no cooling system on their foreign engines
both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
both cars feature 24 volt electrics
both cars have a Beetle based replica
both cars have a six-wheeled version
both cars have a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to
both cars have an aluminium box section chassis
both cars have an engine mounted lengthwise with the power take off at the front and directed back to mate up with the differential that was mounted behind the engine
both cars have an engine which was not designed to power a car
both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
both cars have exceptional technical specs
both cars have a 4 speed pre-selector gearbox
Both cars have an open monococ with a rollcage
both cars have one identical dimension (width)
both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
both cars have similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
both cars have the same CV number
both cars have the same engine
both cars have the same engine layout (flat-twin)
both cars have the same mileage radius
both cars have the same position of the engine (rear-engine)
both cars have the same seating layout (tandem)
both cars have the same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
both cars have the same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
both cars have the same weight\output ratio
both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
both cars used automatic transmissions despite their racing nature
both cars were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
both cars were available with a supercharger
both cars were available with a Wankel engine
one car was built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
one car was the first to use an engine and the other was the first to use the SuperCharged version of that
the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
the engines that were used in both of these Formula 1 racecars were also supplied to Lotus to use in their Formula 1 cars of the period
UNCATEGORIZED
both are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
both have been named as an inspiration for the same car
both cars were GP cars designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time and both were recycled versions of another GP race car
both cars did not finish just one grand prix in their year because of transmission falure and still both cars took the championship in their year with the same driver
both were made into soldout keychains by same company
both companies gave out Stock Certificates
both cars set records for highest amount paid at auctions
both cars share the same supplier in fuel and tires
both cars have the same sponsor
both BMW powered Gr6 Sports cars, former Road Track race cars, European Hillclimb Championships winners with same pilot
one car commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
one car inspired the other
one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
both makes are related to Swiss watch manufacturers
both cars were developed for one series and re purposed for another series
both cars where owned by F1 teams who had a connection to the same suplier wich pioneered the use of carbon brakes, when they equipped both Renault and McLaren
the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
both cars are known as "most succesful race car'' by these manufactures
both cars were first made with a 8-cylinder engine and later had a 4-cylinder version
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Simca Versailles and Range Rover.
Both were cars that were powered by an engine that was designed by one of the "big three" which ended up the property of an other one of the big three,
because of of deals and mergers with non US car companies.
The Simca had a licence built Ford V8 60, which though Simca became the property of Chrysler.
The Rover had a licence built Buick 215, which through BMW became the property of Ford.
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Wow, just wow!
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One is a bullet-proof car made after an assasination attempt and the other had his passenger assassinated...can you define better you idea?
Since the last one is a Range Rover and not the Popemobile version, you can use a common Continental, using 'both models had a version ...etc...'
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hmm yes looking back it's not really a very real connection. I will edit my previous post with a different car (on a similar theme)
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Right lets try this:
Range-Rover > Citroen DS
Connection: Examples of both cars have (potentially) saved the lives of heads of state;
In 1981, a special bullet-proof Range-Rover 'popemobile' was built to project pope John Paul II after the assassination attempt the previous year.
in 1962, the Citroen DS carrying Charles De Gaulle was attacked, and the unique suspension design allowed the car to escape at high speed even after the tired had been shot out
How's that?
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Citroen DS and Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing.
Both bodyshapes have been used as full size, non functional pieces of art.
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Mercedes-Benz 300SL and Triumph GT6 Mk1.
Both cars had the notorious swing-axle rear suspension, which led to frequent backwards trips into hedges (allegedly, since I've never driven either car!) due to the whole rear-end jacking up on lift-off in mid-corner (known, I believe, as extreme lift-off oversteer!)
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Triumph GT6 Mk1 and Lotus 7 series 2.
Both used the front uprights originally designed for the Standard 8 and 10 , which were used on many UK built single seaters, and specials.
( they were so perfect for the job, it seems almost all of them used these...)
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Mercedes-Benz 300SL and Triumph GT6 Mk1.
Both cars had the notorious swing-axle rear suspension, which led to frequent backwards trips into hedges (allegedly, since I've never driven either car!) due to the whole rear-end jacking up on lift-off in mid-corner (known, I believe, as extreme lift-off oversteer!)
Well I don't know about the 300SL, but here is someone I know doing just that to his GT6!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx22_M8Cym4
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Mercedes-Benz 300SL and Triumph GT6 Mk1.
Both cars had the notorious swing-axle rear suspension, which led to frequent backwards trips into hedges (allegedly, since I've never driven either car!) due to the whole rear-end jacking up on lift-off in mid-corner (known, I believe, as extreme lift-off oversteer!)
Well I don't know about the 300SL, but here is someone I know doing just that to his GT6!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx22_M8Cym4
Lifting off, going over a hump, into the corner fast...
No wonder it bit him.
An early Mini wouldn't have reacted well to that kind of treatment either...
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One connection today or it will be solved!
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Lotus 7 and Sunbeam Tiger
Both were vehicles featured in the opening credits of 1960's TV programs about secret agents.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Sv813f2Xtrg&hl=en_US&fs=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/AvMj5LuT5hk&hl=en_US&fs=1
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Sunbeam Tiger and '63 AC Cobra.
Both British built roadsters powered by Small Block Fords, that got a got a hardtop to clean up the aerodynamics for LeMans.
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AC Cobra and Jaguar E-Type
Both employed a Salisbury 4HU unit with inboard disk brakes, to reduce unsprung weight.
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Jaguar E-type and Mercedes-Benz 190SL
Both cars featured on Donald Byrd albums for Blue Note
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Mercedes-Benz 190SL and the 1975 Monica
Both makes are named after a womans firstname who both where not directly involved in the production of these makes, but where only related to those who where
Mercedes named after Mercedes Jellinek, daughter of Emil Jellinek, the Austro-Hungarian consul in Nice, France, at the turn of the century. He stared to race cars under the name of his daughter and raced a with a Daimler Phoenix
He ordered 36 new Daimler race cars in 1900, who where to be designed to his wiches, with the demand they would be named Mercedes
The rest is history
Monica was a brand of luxury cars created in France in the 1970s by Jean Tastevin, a French industrialist whose wife's name was Monica
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Monica and 1964 Farcel Vega II
They are the last, and second to last attempts to create a luxury brand in France.
And they were both powered by American Crysler V8 engines.
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Thought the Monica had a home-grown V8 engine designed by Chris Lawrence?
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Monica cars had also Triumph and Aston Martin engines.
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We had the "named after a lady connected with the dealer" some 19 months ago:
Mercedes 79\200 PS and what car? why?
1955 Swallow Doretti based on Triumph mechanical components.
The Mercedes "brand" was named after Mercedes Jellinek, daughter of Daimler's French distributor
The Doretti name came from the Italianisation of Arthur Andersen’s daughter Dorothy Dean’s name who was also Triumph’s distributor for Southern California and by all accounts was a stunning blond.
i.e. both named after young ladies, both of whom were daughters of the cars distributors.
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Thought the Monica had a home-grown V8 engine designed by Chris Lawrence?
Found online.
"The earliest prototype Monicas were powered by a Ted Martin designed 3.4l V8 engine but later prototypes and the production model were equipped with a Chrysler 5.6 l (340 in³) V8 engine."
So that would make the 1975 car pictured Chrysler powered...
So what is the propper etiquette for this?
Its not that I havent seen entries to this Thread that I wondered about ( or even suspected to be wrong...)
But I thought it to be better, and more sportsman like, to let P J be the referee.
So are all links still good, or is the chain broken?
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And please define " home grown" on a French car built in France, while the design development and prototype building of it was done in England...
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Thank you for your help, Allan.
We had:
both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle (Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja)
and
both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors (Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955)
Amsterdam proposal was:
both makes are named after women not directly involved in the production of these makes, but where only related to those who where
The 2nd is out (Monica was a wife and not a daughter)
The 1st was about the Model (Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja) rather than the Maker (Mercedes and Monica)
This make it a valid one.
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Thought the Monica had a home-grown V8 engine designed by Chris Lawrence?
Found online.
"The earliest prototype Monicas were powered by a Ted Martin designed 3.4l V8 engine but later prototypes and the production model were equipped with a Chrysler 5.6 l (340 in³) V8 engine."
So that would make the 1975 car pictured Chrysler powered...
So what is the propper etiquette for this?
Its not that I havent seen entries to this Thread that I wondered about ( or even suspected to be wrong...)
But I thought it to be better, and more sportsman like, to let P J be the referee.
So are all links still good, or is the chain broken?
Monica cars had Chrysler engines too and they were considered as french as they could be.
I will accept this too.
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Thank you for your help, Allan.
We had:
both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle (Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955)
and
both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors (Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja)
Amsterdam proposal was:
both makes are named after women not directly involved in the production of these makes, but where only related to those who where
The 2nd is out (Monica was a wife and not a daughter)
The 1st was about the Model (Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja) rather than the Maker (Mercedes and Monica)
This make it a valid one.
Actually your second definition there is true for Mercedes (Emil Jellinek was the French agent for Daimler) and Doretti (Italianised version of Dorothy, daughter of Arthur Andersen who was Triumph distributor in Southern California) - as I wrote when I first posted it 19 months ago.
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And please define " home grown" on a French car built in France, while the design development and prototype building of it was done in England...
I was out of the country at the time so couldn't check my facts. Couldn't remember if it was a Lawrence or Martin-designed engine (knew it was one or the other) so I plumped for Lawrence...
Home-grown because the development was (as you say) done in England, and Martin was a Brit; I always think of the car as Anglo-French. It was very optimistic to fit an engine of their own design and think that's largely why the project failed. So much money was spent designing it and trying to make it work that there wasn't enough left to develop the car properly once they decided to make do with an American engine.
I wasn't trying to spoil the connection; just making an observation. Decisions are PJ's to make.
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I wasn't trying to spoil the connection; just making an observation. Decisions are PJ's to make.
I didn't think you were,
Sorry if it came across that way.
I'm guessing this is the Martin engine that was a V8 which was partly based on the Kent?
Interesting engine, I saw one in parts in a box when I was buying used racecar parts for my Mallock in Dover.
One of its interesting features was that that the big ends forked around eachother so the banks ( and cylinder heads ) did not have to be offset.
Which made the engine shorter.
There was a Super Saloon Escort running with one...
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Thank you for your help, Allan.
We had:
both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle (Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 and Swallow Doretti 1955)
and
both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors (Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja)
Amsterdam proposal was:
both makes are named after women not directly involved in the production of these makes, but where only related to those who where
The 2nd is out (Monica was a wife and not a daughter)
The 1st was about the Model (Lotus Elise and Austro-Daimler Maja) rather than the Maker (Mercedes and Monica)
This make it a valid one.
Actually your second definition there is true for Mercedes (Emil Jellinek was the French agent for Daimler) and Doretti (Italianised version of Dorothy, daughter of Arthur Andersen who was Triumph distributor in Southern California) - as I wrote when I first posted it 19 months ago.
I obviously wrote it wrong...I meant the opposite and I'll fix it.
We can proceed from:
Monica and 1964 Farcel Vega II
They are the last, and second to last attempts to create a luxury brand in France, both powered by American Crysler V8 engines.
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Is it over?
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Is it over?
Don't think so because it is a NEVERENDING chain :):
Facel Vega II and Bertone Freeclimber.
Both companies made bodies for other brands before they made cars under their own brand name.
(http://www.mondofuoristrada.it/upload/001_freeclimber.jpg)
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Is it over?
Don't think so because it is a NEVERENDING chain :):
Thanks for saving it 75America.
It would have been sad if my rudeness towards Carnut would have killed it.
Sorry for that...
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The Bertone Freeclimber and the De Tomaso UAZ Simbir.
Both were Italian-assembled versions of existing overseas 4x4 SUVs. (Daihatsu Rugger/Rocky/Fourtrack and UAZ 3160)
I hope this helps to strengthen the Chain. (attached photo show's De Tomaso Bereti on the left signing the production agreement with UAZ's senior management).
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Are we close to the end?
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De Tomaso UAZ Simbir and Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Pantera
Both are vehicles built by De Tomaso AND also sold and marketed by other companies than De Tomaso AND named per different-language variations of the word 'Panther', AND constructed with engines from third-party companies.
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And the winner is......
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what about that one:
deTomaso Pantera & Lamborghini Miura
2 italian supercars wchich successor was only a factory mock up concept without continuation
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We had
'both cars had later revival projects'
'both cars had modern day reincarnations'
but this is new! :thumbsup:
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that's great
Miura will be easy i suppose
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Lamborghini Miura - International Harvester Scout
Both makes also made agricultural tractors.
(http://z.about.com/d/4wheeldrive/1/0/3/V/1/JerryT_NC_75IHScoutII_RR.jpg)
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International Harvester Scout and Mercedes S-class W126.
Both were used by Monteverdi as the base for one of his cars.
The Scout became the Monteverdi Sahara and the W126 became the Monteverdi Tiara
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Mercedes S-class W126 and the BMW 7 Series
Both cars where available as a streched limo version, in both cases the letter L was added to the model designation. Mercedes SEL and BMW L7
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BMW 750iL and Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
These are the only two V12 cars driven by James Bond!
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Where are the pictures?
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Where are the pictures?
Here you go:
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:thumbsup:
BMW 750iL and Aston Martin V12 Vanquish These are the only two V12 cars driven by James Bond
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish and ? which car? why?
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Aston Martin V12 Vanquish and Nissan Armada
both cars shares the model name same as video game for SEGA game platform:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armada_(video_game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanquish_(video_game)
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Who's next?
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Nissan Armada and the Dutton Mariner
Both names are related by war at sea
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Dutton Mariner and Gibbs Aquada. Both are amphibious vehicles
(http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-ghi/Gibbs-Aquada-FA-Studio-1024x768.jpg)
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Gibbs Aquada and the Plymouth Roadrunner
Both names indicate where the vehicle can move
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Plymouth Roadrunner and BMW 3.0 CSL
Both cars were fitted with aerodynamic appendages for racing homologation.
(http://www.rsiauto.fr/images/BMW/3.0-CSL/3.0-CSL-2.jpg)
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BMW 3.0 CSL and Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA.
Both CSL and GTA tags refer to low weights. Leichtbau / Allegerita
(http://www.alfaworkshop.co.uk/images/header_233-800.jpg)
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Is this the end?
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Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA & 1968 Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta
Both names are also named in Italian Regions names Valle d'Aosta & Friuli-Venezia Giulia
[I will add the picture when no server problems appear]
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Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta ----- Maserati 6C/34 sn3018/3701
That particular Maserati owned by Nuvolari.
Nuvolari, during firstWW was driver in "Invitta" 3 armata, led by Duca d'Aosta.
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Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta ----- Maserati 6C/34 sn3018/3701
That particular Maserati owned by Nuvolari.
Nuvolari, during firstWW was driver in "Invitta" 3 armata, led by Duca d'Aosta.
Pics of the cars.
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This will be a perfect ending....or not?
Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta and Maserati 6C/34 sn3018/3701 the man the 1st car is named after led the armada in which the pilot of the 2nd was a driver
Maserati 6C/34 and what car? why?
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Maserati 6C-34 and Cooper-Castellotti T51. Both cars made their debut during Italian GP, in 1934 and 1960 respectively.
It's only hard to find a decent picture...
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We had 'both cars debuted in the same event', but this is new.
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Before he died Eugenio Castellotti was engaged with Delia Scala, an italian actress.
The new car is Buick Roadmaster 1947, which appeared in a movie with Delia Scala, "Roma Ore 11" (1952, in USA as "Rome 11:00").
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Good! :thumbsup:
Nex one will be reply #1000!
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I will try Buick Roadmaster 1947 and the (Land Rover) Road Rover
(http://www.aronline.co.uk/images/rrover_2.jpg)
Both have road in the name
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We had this:
"both cars have a nickname containing the same word"
but yours is a new one!
Buick Roadmaster 1947 and the (Land Rover) Road Rover: both cars have a name containing the same word
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(Land Rover) Road Rover and the Volkswagen T1
Both have a front split window
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Back to the easy ones!
Another good one...(I was going to include it in the 'same body style elements' but...)
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VW T1 and Mercedes-Benz W110. Both are commonly known by nicknames derived from features of the bodywork (''Splittie'' and "Fintail/Heckflosse")
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:thumbsup:
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Mercedes [W110] Heckflosse and Auto Union 1000 S De Luxe because both have a strange vertical thermometer-like speedometer
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:thumbsup:
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Auto Union 1000 S De Luxe and the Citroen DS
Both had the gear shift placed at the steering wheel.
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Pretty common, that feature, but if we haven't had it before . . .
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Citroën DS and Aston Martin Lagonda
Both had a single spoke steering wheel
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Aston Martin Lagonda and BMW Glas 3000-V8
Both cars have another car brand name in their designation.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/451876480_790b9bdf83.jpg)
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BMW Glas 3000-V8 ’Glaserati’ and 1953 ’Studillac’ (Studebaker Commander Starliner with a Cadillac engine installed by Bill Frick Motors).
Both cars have two car brand names merged in their nickname.
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You all are unbelievable!
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1953 Studillac Studebaker Commander Starliner and the Horch car 5 HP model "Phaeton"
Both the founders of these companies have a background being blacksmiths before becoming car manufacturers.
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Horch 5 HP Phaeton and Oldsmobile Curved Dash
because the founders of both makes, August Horch and Ransom E. Olds were dismissed by the companies board and started later a new make with their name in a different version (Audi and REO).
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Oldsmobile Curved Dash and the TVR 3 1951
Founders of both makes founded a car make name wich was a abbreviation of there own name (Ransom Eli Olds REO and TreVoR Wilkinson TVR)
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TVR 3 and Renault 7
as both cars have a model name that is the number of letters used in the brand name.
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Renault 7 and Suzuki Dzire
Both are disproportioned sedanized cars that were not built/sold in their home country (France/Japan)
(http://theviewspaper.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/dzire.jpg)
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Don't let this one be the last one!
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Suzuki DZire (that's how it seems to be spelled) and Citroën DSuper 5
because both have the two beginning letters of their model name in capitals
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Citroen DSuper and Ford Zephyr MK4
Both cars have the spare wheel in front of the engine bay.
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Ford Zephyr and Maserati Bora,
both names are wind's names.
MPC
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Maserati Bora and Maserati Merak.
Though different models, both share the same basic bodyshell.
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Ford Zephyr and Maserati Bora,
both names are wind's names.
MPC
I'm sorry, but we already had this one:
VW Golf Estate Wagon and Lincoln Zephyr: both cars are named after a wind...
back to the Zephyr Mk4.
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Ford Zephyr and Maserati Bora,
both names are wind's names.
MPC
I'm sorry, but we already had this one:
VW Golf Estate Wagon and Lincoln Zephyr: both cars are named after a wind...
back to the Zephyr Mk4.
Oops... :-[
There are too many links already done, I haven't checked all of them...
MPC
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Is this one done already?
Both the Ford Zephyr and the Ford Consul had instead of Ford the model name on the front of the car:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Ford_Zephyr_213E_head.jpg/800px-Ford_Zephyr_213E_head.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Ford_Consul_MkI_convertible_front.jpg/800px-Ford_Consul_MkI_convertible_front.jpg)
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back to the Zephyr Mk4.
Actually not a Zephyr Mk 4 but a Zephyr 4 so distinguish it from the Zephyr 6 (number of cylinders).
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back to the Zephyr Mk4.
Actually not a Zephyr Mk 4 but a Zephyr 4 so distinguish it from the Zephyr 6 (number of cylinders).
Mark 3 isn't it?
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Actually that picture is a Mk III Zephyr 6, not a Zephyr 4!
Yves's picture was a Mk IV Zephyr (no 4s or 6s with that Mark) so it's a different car...
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Actually that picture is a Mk III Zephyr 6, not a Zephyr 4!
Yves's picture was a Mk IV Zephyr (no 4s or 6s with that Mark) so it's a different car...
I wasn't referring to the photos that appeared just above my post, but to the Zephyr 4 that had been shown as having the spare wheel in the front. They were called Zephyr 4 or 6 (using a Cologne V4 and the Essex V6) in about 1967, but I have no recollection of the Mk IV designator - but then I wasn't interested in Fords then either.
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I wasn't referring to the photos that appeared just above my post, but to the Zephyr 4 that had been shown as having the spare wheel in the front. They were called Zephyr 4 or 6 (using a Cologne V4 and the Essex V6) in about 1967, but I have no recollection of the Mk IV designator - but then I wasn't interested in Fords then either.
This is the kind of stuff that made me give up on this Thread...
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Time to jump in.
This is a game, nothing more, nothing less.
Thank you Allan for pointing us to the right direction when it gets too imprecise.
metalshapes, don't give up...this thread is just for fun.
Usually I'm not too strict on this thread for 2 reasons, the 2nd is that I do not know more than you all about each car and I tend to rely on what you write.
The 1st reason is written on the 2nd line of this reply.
Citroen DSuper and Ford Zephyr Both cars have the spare wheel in front of the engine bay.
Ford Zephyr and Ford Consul Both cars have instead of Ford the model name on the front of the car
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If you do a search for Zephyr Mk4 that exact car comes up, multiple times.
Its the 4th version.
Models 3008 / 3010E.
It seems to me that the first requirement of a correction is, that its more accurate than the statement its correcting.
Otherwise, its just stifling progress and confusing matters.
This is a game, nothing more, nothing less.
I agree...
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Right let's get this straight: Carnut tells me that the Zephyr 4 and Zephyr 6 were collectively known as the Zephyr Mk IV, and as I have always known the one posted by DeAutogids as the Zephyr Mk III I am happy to accept that.
What was going on, back up this thread, was cross purposes as my original point about the Zephyr 4 appeared below the DeAutogids Mk III and despite the fact that I quoted what I was referring to, that got missed (by DeAutogids in his post just after that one of mine - understandable of course).
I'm sorry if Metalshapes is upset, but perhaps, living in the USofA, he doesn't remember these appalling cars which Ford in Britain sold in the 1960s. As for corrections being "more accurate than the statement it's correcting" most of us believe we are doing so at the time and although it may confuse if we are not, I hope we can all accept with good grace that we can be wrong.
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Sofar you have not been able to get me upset.
Just disinterested.
And, for the record, I live in the USA but grew up in Europe...
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As PJ said, it's only a game so we won't get too excited about this.
But just for my 2 penn'orth:
DeAutogids was incorrect in his connection because he pictured the Mk III Zephyr 6 (the Mk IIIs were known as either Zephyr 4 or Zephyr 6 depending on the number cylinders they had) when Yves's car showed the Zephyr Mk IV (completely different cars which were never known as 4s or 6s whether they had the V4 or V6 engine and which said 'Ford' across the front, not 'Zephyr' anyway!)
However, all this is irrelevant because PJ has re-set the car at the Zephyr Mk IV anyway so all the subsequent Replies don't count!
So we need a connection with the Zephyr Mk IV now to continue the game...
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Carnut, I know that my Zephyr was not the same version as the one which connected to the DS. I assume it needs to connect to the exact car?
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Mk IV Zephyr and Lady Penelope's Rolls
Both featured prominently in TV shows that shared a plural name with a different car ("Z-Cars" and "Thunderbirds", respectively).
(trying to put some fun back into the thread)
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Carnut, I know that my Zephyr was not the same version as the one which connected to the DS. I assume it needs to connect to the exact car?
Believe so, yes, but this is PJ's puzzle so his say-so counts!
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Lady Penelope's Rolls and the Panther Six:
Both cars had 4 front and 2 rear wheels (hope we haven't had that one before but there are so many pages to go through now that haven't the time!)
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Panther Six and Nissan Leopard.
The cars share two names for the same animal (leopard-panther).
MPC
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Panther Six and Nissan Leopard.
The cars share two names for the same animal (leopard-panther).
MPC
:thumbsup:
We had this: both cars are named after the same animal (wild horse) in the respective country (Mustang - Brumby ), but yours is different.
(hope we haven't had that one before but there are so many pages to go through now that haven't the time!)
Don't worry, I will take care of that... ;)
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Carnut, I know that my Zephyr was not the same version as the one which connected to the DS. I assume it needs to connect to the exact car?
Believe so, yes, but this is PJ's puzzle so his say-so counts!
Usually I'd like to connect the same car, but as you can see, there is often a nice connection between the makers, the founders, the badges, etc, were the model is not that relevant at all.
In this case, we took the right direction. ;)
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Are you ready for a recap?
Here you are all the 337 connections!
Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956 Porsche 718 RSK 1958 relative of one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Porsche 718 RSK 1958 Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 both cars had the same engineer
Studebaker Project Z-87 1954 Studebaker Dictator 1935 both cars were built by the same manufacturer
Studebaker Dictator 1935 Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 one car is named after the driver of the other
Alfa Romeo 6C 2300 Pescara 1935 Auto Union Typ B 1935 one car is named after a circuit the other drove in
Auto Union Typ B 1935 Era Type B 1936 both cars have the same name
Era Type B 1935 Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 both cars were produced in the same country
Era Type M Mini Turbo 1989 Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 the engine of one car is the evolution of the engine of the other
Austin A30 Seven Saloon 1951 Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 both cars have the same engine
Turner 803 Sports A30 1956 Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 both manufacturers have the same name
Turner-Miesse Steamer 1904 Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 both cars have the same source of energy (steam-electric-hybrid-diesel-solar)
Stanley Steamer Model E2 1909 Rolls Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost by Barker both cars were produced in the same year
Rolls Royce 40/50 Silver Ghost Barker 1909 Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 both cars were one-off
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 both cars were built in the same factory building
Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 both cars have the same CV number
Renault Type A 1½ CV 1898 Tracta T11 1929 one car shares its name with the part the other introduced first time
Tracta T11 1929 Christie Grand Prix 1907 both cars have the same traction (FWD-AWD-RWD)
Christie Grand Prix 1907 Mercedes 79\200 PS (20.5lt) from 1915 both cars have exceptional technical specs
Mercedes 79\200 PS 1915 Swallow Doretti 1955 both cars are named after daughters of the cars distributors
Swallow Doretti 1955 Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 both cars have the same name in different language
Chevrolet Corvette Rondine 1963 Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 one car is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 both cars have the same body style elements (fins)
Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960 Detroit Electric 1915 one car is named after the man who founded the city that shares the name with the other
Detroit Electric 1915 Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 both cars have the same mileage radius
Lincoln Indianapolis Boano 1955 Fiat Coupe 1993 the designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second
Fiat Coupe 1993 Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 both cars were built in the same city
Lancia Augusta W&Mitchell 1935 Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 the same man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
Graham-Paige Model 827 Rds 1929 Hupmobile Skylark 1940 the last model of both builders derives from the same car
Hupmobile Skylark 1940 Chevrolet Nomad 1955 founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empires
Chevrolet Nomad 1955 Veritas RS2000 1947 both cars had later revival projects
Veritas RS2000 1947 AFM 2.5l 1951 both cars had engineers who worked for the same company\model
AFM 2.5l 1951 BMW 700RS 1960 builder of the 1st car was pilot in the 2nd
BMW 700RS 1960 Wolseley 7 HP 1922 both cars have the same engine layout (flat-twin)
Wolseley 7 HP 1922 Ford Gyron 1961 both manufacturers made an unorthodox vehicle (gyroscopic car)
Ford Gyron 1961 Tucker Torpedo 1948 the features of the first car were credited to the designer of the 2nd(L.Brennan)
Tucker Torpedo 1948 Rolls-Royce Phantom II 1931 both cars star in a film (that bears their name)
Rolls Royce Phantom II 1931 Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 one manufacturer built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other company
Packard Convertible Coupe 1949 Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 one car shares its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
Bugatti Type 41 Royale 1931 Plymouth Superbird Hemi 426 1970 the engine of one car share its nickname with the hood ornament of the other
Plymouth Superbird H426 1970 Cadillac Seville 1997 both cars are named after the same object\thing (port)
Cadillac Seville 1997 Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 one car shares its name with the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car
Arnolt Bristol Bolide 1953 Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 both cars derived from other cars
Awtowelo Type 650 "Sokol" 1952 and Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 both cars are in the same collection\museum\display\show\event
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
Ferrari 625 F1 from 1955 Chrysler 300K Convertible 1964 one car shares its name with the number of cars produced (in that model year) of the other
Chrysler 300K Convertibile 1964 Volvo 122 S 1968 one car shares its name with the number of one dimension of the other (wheelbase)
Volvo 122 S 1968 Citroen B18 1927 one car shares its name with the name of the engine of the other
Citroen B18 1927 Mors 12\15 HP 1909 one builder worked for the builder of the other car
Mors 12-15 HP 1909 Peugeot Quadrillette Type 161 1922 both manufacturers produced the same non-automotive object (traffic signs)
Peugeot Type 161 Quadrilette 1922 Wanderer W1 Puppchen 5-12 HP 1911 both cars derived from the same car
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 Bédélia BD3 1913 both cars have the same seating layout (tandem)
Bédélia BD3 1913 AV Monocar 6\8 hp 1920 both cars have similarities in the steering mechanism (centre-point and wire-and-bobbin)
AV Monocar 6\8 HP 1920 Tecno-Daf F3 1968 both cars are missing of a part (lights)
Techno-Daf F3 1968 Benz Velo 1894 both cars have similarities in the change-speed mechanism (both involve belts)
Benz Velo 1894 Alpine A110 1300S 1971 both cars have the same position of the engine (rear-engine)
Alpine A110 1300S 1971 DKW F94 Limousine 1957 both cars had equivalents in other countries
DKW F94 Limousine 1957 Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 both manufacturers had a specific coachwork for a country (Fissore's)
VW Karmann-Ghia TC 1970 Nash-Healey Pininfarina Roadster 1952 both cars have a name referring to different manufacturers
Nash-Healey Pininf. Rds 1952 Gordon GT 1960 Both cars were the product of three countries
Gordon GT 1960 MG A 1600 Twin Cam 1958 both cars have the same wheels\disc brakes
MGA Twin Cam 1958 Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 both cars are the high-output version of a standard model
Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 MG Metro 1982 both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics
MG Metro 1982 Peugeot 205GTI 1984 both cars were the base for racing cars
Peugeot 205GTI 1984 Citroën DS 1956 one car shares its name with the special version of the other
Citroën DS 1955 Jaguar XK120 1954 both cars were in the same list (of an international beauty contest)
Jaguar XK120 1954 Fiat 8V 1952 both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design (Savonuzzi's Supersonic)
Fiat 8V 1952 Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars were designed by the same man
Cisitalia D46 1946 Bristol 400 1947 both cars were the first cars produced by their makers
Bristol 400 1947 ALFA 24 hp 1910 both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin
ALFA 24 hp 1910 Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
Opel Omega 1986 Holden VE Commodore 2007 both cars have a derivate sold by another manufacturer (pontiac)
Holden VE Commodore 2007 Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 the same man was director of the first and founded the second company
Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951 SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other
SOCEMA Gregoire 1952 Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
Ford X-100 1953 Lincoln Typhoon 1952 one car is a styling mockup that became the other car
Lincoln Typhoon 1952 Maserati Khamsin 1976 both cars are named after meteorological events
Maserati Khamsin 1976 Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system
Rolls Royce Silver Shadow Lancia Lambda 1923 both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder
Lancia Lambda 1923 Audi Type K 1923 both cars are named after the (11th) letter of 2 different alphabets (greek and latin)
Audi Type K 1923 Burney Streamline 1932 both cars were designed by designers who started on airships
Burney Streamline 1932 Maybach W1 one manufacturer built the engines for the airships made in the company directed by the other
Maybach W1 Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 both cars have a badge featuring twice the same letter (M)
Meccanica Maniero 4700 1967 Ascort TSV 1300 1959 both cars are coachbuilt specials based on a popular production car from a different continent
Ascort TSV 1300 1959 TVR Grantura I 1958 Both cars have a fibreglass body
TVR Grantura Mk I 1958 Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 both cars are standard production models named after the body manufacturer
Healey Tickford Saloon 1951 VW Type 3 1966 both manufacturers later on made a car in collaboration with another one
VW Typ 3 1966 Astra Utility 1956 both cars have a luggage compartment above the (underfloor) engine
Astra Utility 1956 Biscuter Commercial Rubia both cars are woodies
Biscuter Commercial Rubia Nissan Sentra 1983 both cars reached production because of visionaries born in the same year
Nissan Sentra 1983 Chery Eastar 2003 both cars have the same code name (B11)
Chery Eastar B11 2003 Citroen Bx both cars have a type code shared with a thing\object ( B vitamin)
Citroën BX Daewoo Matiz 1998 both cars derived from a prototype made for another company
Daewoo Matiz 1998 Simca 1100 1967 both cars were sold in a later period under a different brand name
Simca 1100 1967 Seat Ibiza 1984 both manufacturers started car production with cars built under license from another company
Seat Ibiza 1984 Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars are named after geographic places (islands)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 Buick Questor 1983 both cars are named after political offices (in the Roman Republic)
Buick Questor 1983 Oldsmobile Recon 1999 both manufacturers were part of the same company (GM)
Oldsmobile Recon 1999 Ford 24-7 Concept both cars have an instrument panel that could be reconfigured to each drivers' preferences
Ford 24.7 concept White Red Bus 1936 both cars have the same top configuration
White Red Bus 1936 Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 both cars had only one official colour scheme
Alfa Romeo SZ 1989 Rover P6 BS 1967 both cars have a name containing an acronym that refers to a different company
Rover P6 BS 1967 Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 both manufacturers had their origins in producing versions of the same vehicle (Micheaux Velocipede)
Columbia LX Electric Runabout 1903 Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 both manufacturies were created as a joint venture
Autobianchi Coupe (G.31) 1968 Citroen 11CV Traction Avant 1935 both manufacturers were owned by tire companies
Citroen 11CV TA 1935 Toyota Progres 1998 both manufacturers are named after their founders, but with a small change in the name
Toyota Progres 1998 Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 both cars have a name referring to modernity (progressiveness; avant garde)
Citroën 11 B Traction Avant 1955 Panhard Dyna Z 1956 the same man designed some adverts for both cars
Panhard Dyna Z 1956 Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 both cars were introduced with bodies made of a lightweight material, and then switched to steel
Ferrari 308 GTB 1975 Lancia Stratos 1972 both cars had racing versions built by the same company
Lancia Stratos 1972 Chery A5 both cars have one identical dimension (width)
Chery A5 Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY 2005 both manufacturers were sued for making knockoff’s
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY Hillman Hunter both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers
Hillman Hunter Argyll Turbo GT 1976 both cars are named after polish heavy metal bands (Hunter and Turbo)
Argyll Turbo GT 1976 Allard P1 1952 both manufacturers share their name with earlier makes from the same country started the same year
Allard P1 1952 Rolls-Royce Light Twenty 1906 both cars won International competitions driven by their constructors
Rolls Royce 20HP 1906 Cottin & Desg. 12HP 1904 both manufacturers are named after both their founders one of whom of each co. also prod. cars under their own name before
Cottin & Desgouttes 12 HP 1924 Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Both companies were manufacturing a model with similar power units at (almost) the same time
Prima 12\15 HP 1906 Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 one car has a name containing the other manufaturer's name
Alfa Romeo 1900 Granluce Primavera 1957 Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 both cars are factory-built 2-door pillarless coupes based on the regular 4-door sedan model
Jaguar XJ12 Coupe 1977 Cheetah Coupe 2008 both manufacturers are named after members of the cat group of animals
Cheetah Coupe 2008 Vaz Samara Tarzan one car is named after the pet companion of a character that shares the name with the second car
VAZ Samara Tarzan Felber Excellence 1977 both cars have a name containing only one vowel repeated six times
Felber Excellence 1977 Fisker Tramonto 2005 both cars were limited production based on production cars
Fisker Tramonto 2005 Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports the same object was designed by the designer of 1st car and inspired the design of the 2nd
Ken Okuyama K.O. 7 sports Williams FW 08 1980 both cars have a name containing the initials of the company owner
Williams FW08 1980 Eagle RV both cars have a six-wheeled version
Eagle RV Keller Super Chief both cars were available in either front-engine or rear-engine configuration
Keller Super Chief Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 Hot Rod Hawg Limited Edition both cars are powered by motorcycle engines
Hot Rod Hawg Humber Royal Humberette 1904 both cars have a name containing the same initials (HRH)
Humber Royal Humberette 1904 Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 both cars have a name that is a diminuitive of the make
Citroën 2CV Citroneta 1957 Chevrolet El Camino 1970 both cars are pick up versions of sedans also being offered
Chevy El Camino SS 1970 Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 both cars have a name containing historically contaminated abbreviations
Holden HJ Statesman Caprice 1975 Citroën GS 1971 both cars were available with a Wankel engine
Citroën GS 1971 Opel G90 both cars have significant narrower back axle trackwidths
Opel G90 Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
Pininfarina Rossa 2000 Hongqi CA72 Luxury Car 1958 both cars have a name containing the name of the same colour
Hongqi CA72 1958 UOP Shadow race car both cars are named after motorcycles made by another manufacturer
UOP Shadow Peugeot 402 Eclipse 1937 both cars have a name referring to a lack of light
Peugeot 402 Eclipse 1937 Ford Model T both are commonly - and incorrectly - referred to as the first of its kind
Ford Model T Austin 7 both cars were produced in the same countries; (USA, Great Britain, France and Germany)
Austin Seven Dixi 3/15 one car was the mirror image of the other
DIXI 3/15 Volvo ÖV 4 both manufacturers were the car-building arm of a 3-letter company and named after a latin first person statement
Volvo ÖV 4 Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jacob one is a hot rod tribute to the other one
Caresto Hot Rod Volvo Jakob Lincoln MKR Concept both cars feature hand-cut tires featuring the carmaker's logo
Lincoln MKR 2007 Ford Thunderbird 2002 one car was built upon the platform which has become the basis for the other car's platform
Ford Thunderbird 2002 Gatsby Griffin both cars are named after a mythological flying creature
Gatsby Griffin Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 both cars have a name referring to novels by the same author (Francis Scott Key Fitzgerald)
Hamann BMW X6 Tycoon 2009 Lancia Delta HF Integrale both cars have been replaced by an EVO version
Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 both cars debuted in the same event
Fiat Uno Turbo Mk2 Connaught B both cars officially wore only Pirelli tyres
Connaught B Scania A1 1901 the same person have both cars names in his titles
Scania A1 1901 Gaz 18 both manufacturers are better known for their commercial vehicles
GAZ-18 Hanomag 1,3 both cars have the same type of doors (suicide)
Hanomag 1.3 Adler 2.5 liter 1937 both cars were the last passenger car models of the companies
Adler 2.5 liter 1937 Mercedes 540K 1938 both cars have a nickname containing the same word
Mercedes 540K 1938 Hummer H1 both cars have a Beetle based replica
Hummer H1 Willys Jeep CJ2A both cars were modified civilian version of a vehicle commissioned by the US Government
Willys Jeep CJ2A Jicey F2 1948 both cars have a name that is the pronounciation of just two letters (JP - JC )
Jicey F2 1948 Lotus Elise both cars have an aluminium box section chassis
Lotus Elise Austro-Daimler Maja both cars are named after a lady who had a relative who was important in the creation of the vehicle
Austro-Daimler Maja Coffin Dragster both cars have the seats placed on the rear axle
Coffin Dragster Cord 812 one car shares its name with the nickname of the other
Cord 812 Opel GT both cars have hidden headlight that were opened mechanically
Opel GT Saab 92 1950 both cars have not a bootlid
Saab 92 1950 Mercury 1950 one car commenced production the same date the second appeared on a magazine's ads
Mercury 1950 London TX4 by Manganese Bronze both manufacturers are named after metals
London Taxi TX4 Checker - Ghia Centurion 1968 both cars are made on a chassis specially made for taxi purposes
Checker Ghia Centurion 1968 Karmann Typ 1 1965 both cars have different (asymmetrical) side views
Karmann Typ 1 1965 Lancia Aurelia B20 GT both cars were designed by a designer with a own company and built by another one
Lancia Aurelia B20 GT Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 1952 both cars were RHD built and sold in countries with right hand traffic
Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 1952 BSA Scout both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
BSA Scout Wolseley Viper both cars were advertised using the same word\words
Wolseley Viper AC Cobra both cars are named after a snake
AC Cobra Mercedes-Benz 190 the 2nd car has been painted by a painter of the art movement with the same name as the 1st car
Mercedes-Benz 190 Checker Marathon Both cars were choose in their respective countries to use as a Taxi
Checker Marathon VW Beetle both cars were produced for more than 20 years
VW Beetle Auto Union D Type both manufacturers lost factories to the Germans as part of War Reparations
Auto Union D Type Jaguar E-type Both cars are named in sequential order both chronologically, and alphabetically
Jaguar E type Ferrari 250 LM both manufacturers tried to bend the rules a bit to get then accepted for Sportscar Racing
Ferrari 250 LM 1963 Pontiac Tempest LeMans both cars are named after a race venue where they would not compete
Pontiac Tempest LeMans and the 1971 Ford Pinto 1971 both cars used a version of a "Rope Drive " or " Rope Shaft "
Ford Pinto 1971 Lincoln Continental 1961 Both cars were designed by designers who would go on to work on versions of the same car
Lincoln Continental 1961 Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer 1911 both cars had a political assassinated in it
Gräf & Stift Bois de Boulogne tourer 1911 Celeritas Rennwagen 1901 both cars reached production though a cash infusion from the same financier
Celeritas Rennwagen 1901 DAF formula 3 1968 both cars were racecars built by car manufacturers that also produced Trucks and Busses
DAF Formula 3 1968 Chaparral 2E 1966 both cars used automatic transmissions despite their racing nature
Chaparral 2E 1966 Lotus 49B 1968 Both cars had a rear wing that put its downforce straight onto the rear uprights
Lotus 49B 1968DFX Vels Parnelli VPJ6 one car was the first to use an engine and the other was the first to use the SuperCharged version of that
Vels Parnelli VPJ6 Eagle T2G Both manufacturers are named after the owner, who were Hot Rodders, raced Nascar, and both teams were active in F1 and Indy
Eagle T2G MG TD 1951 both cars are in museums with a name starting with the same letter
MG TD 1951 Morgensen/Bird Special both cars were saved by the same buyer
Morgensen/Bird Special Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren both cars were built by Volkswagen dealers
Hispano-Suiza Cabriolet by D'Ieteren Bentley 4 1/4litre Veth & Zoon DHC 1936 both coachbuilders were official suppliers to the Dutch Royal Household
Bentley 4 1/4 liter Veth & Zoon DHC 1936 Bentley 4 1/4 liter Köng DHC 1936 both cars have the same coachbuild body, on the same chassis of the same year
Bentley 4 1/4 liter Karosserie Köng DHC 1936 Plymouth '54 Sniper built by Troy Trepanier Both cars started out as a convertible, and got modified with a metal roof later
Plymouth Sniper built by Troy Trepanier DongFeng Brave Soldier Both cars have a name referring to a person who tend to use a gun
DongFeng Brave Soldier Kirkham 427 KMS/SC Both cars are said to be Reverse Engineered from their originals
Kirkham 427 KMS/SC Kaiser Traveler 1949 both cars were built in a mothballed, decommissioned military aircraft assembly facility
Kaiser Traveler Mini Cooper 1963 both cars were used as police cars
Mini Cooper police car Ferrari Testa Rossa V12 1957 Both cars had outside door hinges
Ferrari Testa Rossa V12 1957 Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 Alfetta 1939 the same person designed both their engines
Alfa Romeo Tipo 158 "Alfetta" BMC ADO15 "Mini" both cars have a nickname alluding to the car's diminutive size, compared to its stablemates
BMC ADO15 "Mini" Lamborghini Miura 1967 both cars have a transversely mounted engine that shared the engine oil with the gearbox it was mounted to
Lamborghini Miura 1967 Ford GT40 1966 both cars had modern day reincarnations
Ford GT40 1966 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 tipo Le Mans 1931 both cars won the same race the same number of times in a row
Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 tipo LeMans 1931 Maikafer prototype 1931 both cars were designed by someone who was of the same origin
Maikafer prototype 1931 Tatra t-97 1936 both have been named as an inspiration for the same car
Tatra t-97 1936 KdF wagen 1939 both cars were designed by a father and son combo
KdF Wagen 1939 Chevrolet Corvair 1960 both cars were later adapted to a rear, air-cooled-engine, cab-over pickup derivative and a military vehicle
Chevrolet Corvair 1960 Ford Pinto both cars had safety heavily criticized by Ralph Nader with lawsuits as a result
Ford Pinto Panoz Esperante both cars were the base for a flying car
Panoz Esperante Lancia beta HPE both cars were available with a supercharger
Lancia Beta HPE Jeep Grand Cherokee 2011 both cars were the first new model on sale after manufacturers relinquished control to another
Jeep Grand Cherokee Bantam Number One both cars are the most recent and the oldest versions of a Jeep
Bantam "Jeep" Number One Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) 1961 both cars were delivered in the nick of time, driven by one or more of its engineers
Jaguar E-type (# 77RW) 1961 jaguar XJ13 1966 the same man drove both cars
Jaguar XJ13 Renault 177 both cars have been affected by superstiction
Renault 177 TS Volkswagen Golf Estate Wagon 2002 both cars have the same weight\output ratio
VW Golf Estate Wagon Lincoln Zephyr both cars are named after a wind
Lincoln Zephyr ZIS 101A 1940 both cars were produced at factories which were named after the politic leaders of their countries
ZIS 101A 1940 Datsun 100A both cars share their name with at least one exit /interchange on the US Interstate highway system
Datsun 100A SS 90 Both manufacturers changed names
SS 90 Ford Model T 1926 both cars were sold at the same amount of money in different value.
Ford Model T Citroen Type A both cars were the first mass produced cars in their continent
Citroen Type-A Saab 92001 both cars were the first automotive products of a company, which was previously occupied with military efforts
Saab 92001 Volvo PV 544 both were made into soldout keychains by same company
Volvo PV 544 Ford Taunus 1951 both cars have a nickname that is the same in the same country
Ford Taunus 1951 Ford Consul Capri 1961 both cars were the 1st of their brand introducing a braking system in their country (hydraulic-front discs)
Ford Consul Capri 1961 Citroen Bijou 1959 both cars were the 1st of their brand introducing the same body style in the same period (2-door pillarless coupe)
Citroen Bijou 1959 Lotus Elite 1959 both were the first cars with fibreglass bodies made by their manufacturers and designed by the same man
Lotus Elite 1959 Ralph Watson's Lycoming Special both had an engine which was not designed to power a car (firepump-airplane)
Ralph Watson's Lycoming Special Steyr Allard both cars are named after the engines that powered them
Steyr Allard Allard Front Engined Dragster both cars are Racers, built by the same man, that had no cooling system on their foreign engines
Allard Front Engined Dragster Napier Golden Arrow 1929 both cars belong to the same collection and are going to be restored
Napier Golden Arrow 1929 Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet both cars are named after a precious metal object that can be shot using a weapon
Konocti Motor Co. Silver Bullet Boyd Coddington's Boydster II both cars are streetrods, based on a early Ford, not sharing any actual part with the cars they are based
Boyd Coddington's Boydster II Colman Milne Cardinal in both names there are two words for a male person
Colman Milne Cardinal Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery both cars are modified longroof Fords with Birdnames, used as working vehicles
Pete Brock's 1963 Ford Falcon ( Shelby ) Sedan Delivery Studebaker Lark both cars are named for birds, and marked their maker's foray into smaller vehicles
Studebaker Lark Austin A40 Dorset both cars were imitated as a children’s car
Austin A40 Dorset Ford Anglia both bodystyles were the cars to beat in the old Gasser Dragrace classes
Ford Anglia Ford Pinto both cars were replaced by a newer model tagged the same
Ford Pinto Ford Mustang II both had a prototype build on their chassis by the same designer, in the same year, with similarity in the design
Ford Mustang II Ford Mustang II 1963 both cars have the same make and model name, both indicative of future production models
Ford Mustang II 1963 Subaru Brumby both cars are named after the same animal (wild horse) in the respective country (Mustang - Brumby )
Subaru Brumby Jeep Model M-38A1 both cars have been owned by thesame ex-president and have 4-wheel drive
Jeep Model M-38A1 Bentley Continental DC both feature 24 volt electrics
Bentley Continental DC Mullen L1X-75 GTEV 2009 both have a carbon fiber body and are electric powered
Mullen L1X-75 GTEV 2009 Avelle GTA both share the same body shell
Avelle GTA Lamborghini Countach both have a space frame chassis
Lamborghini Countach Leda LT24 both had the engine ahead of the rear axle and power directed back with a driveshaft to the diff. behind the engine
Leda LT24 Dommartin 1947-48 both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race due to bancrupty
Dommartin 1947-48 Ferrari D50 1956 both were recycled gp versions designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time
Ferrari D50 1956 Mercedes W196 L8 both cars took the championship in a year with the same pilot and did not finish just 1 gp for same failure
Mercedes W196 L8 Lotus 79 both cars dominated one seasons in the hands of 2 pilots
Lotus 79 Lola T294 BMW both cars crashed on the same circuit leading to the tragic death of both its drivers
Lola T294 BMW Osella PA9 BMW both BMW powered Gr6 Sports cars, former Road Track race cars, European Hillclimb Championships winners with same pilot
Osella PA9 BMW Chiribiri Monza both cars where driven by Italian racecar drivers who started their carreer racing motorcycles
Chiribiri Monza Vulcan 20HP Tourer 1922 both manufacturers stopped production of passenger cars in the same year
Vulcan 20HP Tourer 1922 Rapid 1908 both companies were founded by two brothers, had a change in name, produced commercial vehicles, and moved to bigger premises the same year
Rapid 1908 Packard Panther 1954 both companies gave out Stock Certificates
Packard Panther 1954 Oldsmobile F-88 both cars where handbuilt two seater convertible cars from same year
Oldsmobile F-88 Ferrari California Spyder 1961 both set records for highest amount paid at auctions
Ferrari California Spyder 1961 Porsche 911 2.2 both manufacturer designed and produced their largest number of different models on these model lines
Porsche 911 2.2 Mercedes MGP W01 both got a increase in wheelbase to improve the handling
Mercedes MGP W01 Sauber C19 2000 both cars share the same supplier in fuel and tires
Sauber C19 2000 Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe both have the same sponsor
Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile 1966 both cars have names refering too music bands
Pontiac GTO Monkee Mobile 1966 Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard" both cars were by same man, but claimed by another
Porsche 550 Spyder " lil' Bastard" Cord 812 Phaeton 1937 Tom Mix's both car an actor died in a car crash while driving it
Cord 812 Phaeton 1937 Tom Mix's Duesenberg J Rollston Conv. 1937 both car companies were owned by the same man, in the last year of their production
Duesenberg J Rollston Conv. 1937 Daimler EL24 both manufactures where building rolling chassis for other to body
Daimler EL24 Cord 812 Phaeton 1937 both had a 4 speed pre-selector gearbox
Cord 812 Phaeton 1937 American Bantam Hollywood both cars were modified by the same man to create new models, disapproved by companies' owners.
American Bantam Hollywood Fiat Multipla 115 JTD Cinecittà 2005 one car shares a name with America’s famous film city, the other is named after its European counterpart
Fiat Multipla 115 JTD Cinecittà 2005 Matra-Simca Bagheera both cars where available with a third front seat
Matra-Simca Bagheera Pink Panther's car both have a name in common with a cartoon figure
Pink Panther's car Doug Rose's Green Mamba both cars had the driver position centered, and in front of the Front Axle Centerline
Doug Rose's Green Mamba Bennet Drag Car both cars have an open monococ with a rollcage
Bennet Drag Car MCC Smart Fortwo both cars have front and rear tires of different sizes
MCC Smart Fortwo Smart Roadster both cars have a 'Tridion safety cell'
Smart Roadster Mc Laren MP4/2 both makes are related to Swiss watch manufacturers
Mc Laren MP4/2 Renault F1 V6 turbo both F1 teams had connection to same suplier wich pioneered the use of carbon brakes in F1 in 1983
Renault F1 V6 turbo BRM P83 both of these Formula 1 racecars' engine was also in Lotus' Formula 1 cars of the period
BRM P83 Lola T332 both cars were developed for one series and re purposed for another series
Lola T332 Lotus Eleven both very succesfull racingcars of which an unknown number of Replicas and Kits were built
Lotus Eleven Bugatti Type 35C both cars are known as "most succesful race car'' by these manufactures
Bugatti Type 35C Simca Versailles both cars were first made with a 8-cylinder engine and later had a 4-cylinder version
Simca Versailles Range Rover both cars had an engine designed by one of the "big three" which ended up the property of another one of the big three because of deals and mergers with non US car companies
Range Rover Citroen DS both cars have saved the lives of heads of state in an assasination attempt
Citroen DS Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing both bodyshapes have been used as full size, non functional pieces of art
Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing Triumph GT6 Mk1 both cars had swing-axle rear suspension, which led to frequent backwards trips into hedges due to the whole rear-end jacking up on lift-off in mid-corner
Triumph GT6 Mk1 Lotus 7 series 2 both used the front uprights originally designed for the Standard 8 and 10 , which were used on many UK built single seaters, and specials
Lotus 7 series 2 Sunbeam Tiger both were vehicles featured in the opening credits of 1960's TV programs about secret agents
Sunbeam Tiger AC Cobra 1963 both British built roadsters powered by Small Block Fords, that got a got a hardtop for LeMans
AC Cobra 1963 Jaguar E-Type both cars employed a Salisbury 4HU unit with inboard disk brakes, to reduce unsprung weight
Jaguar E-Type Mercedes-Benz 190SL both cars featured on Donald Byrd albums for Blue Note
Mercedes-Benz 190SL Monica 1975 both makes are named after women not directly involved in the production of these makes, but where only related to those who where
Monica 1975 Farcel Vega II 1964 they are the last, and second to last attempts to create a luxury brand in France, both Crysler V8-powered
Farcel Vega II 1964 Bertone Freeclimber both companies made bodies for other brands before they made cars under their own brand name
Bertone Freeclimber De Tomaso UAZ Simbir both cars were Italian-assembled versions of existing overseas 4x4 SUVs
De Tomaso UAZ Simbir Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Pantera both cars were built by the same company and also sold and marketed by other companies and named per different-language variations of the same word and constructed with engines from third-party companies
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Pantera Lamborghini Miura both cars were italian supercars which successor was only a factory mock up concept without continuation
Lamborghini Miura International Harvester both manufacturers also made agricultural tractors
International Harvester Mercedes S-class W126 both cars were used by the same company as the base for one of his cars
Mercedes S-class W126 BMW 7 Series both cars where available as a streched limo version with the letter 'L' added to the model designation
BMW 7 Series Aston Martin V12 Vanquish both cars are the only two V12 cars driven by James Bond
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish Nissan Armada both cars shares the same model name as video game for SEGA
Nissan Armada Dutton Mariner both cars have a name related by war at sea
Dutton Mariner Gibbs Aquada both cars are amphibious vehicles
Gibbs Aquada Plymouth Roadrunner both cars have a name that indicate where the vehicle can move
Plymouth Roadrunner BMW 3.0 CSL both cars were fitted with aerodynamic appendages for racing homologation
BMW 3.0 CSL Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA both cars have tags referring to low weights
Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta 1968 both cars have a name containing part of Italian Regions names
Bizzarrini Duca d'Aosta 1968 Maserati 6C/34 sn3018/3701 the man the 1st car is named after led the armada in which the pilot of the 2nd was a driver
Maserati 6C/34 sn3018/3701 Cooper-Castellotti T51 both cars debuted in the same race, different years
Cooper-Castellotti T51 Buick Roadmaster 1947 builder of the 1st car was engaged with an actress playing in a movie featuring the 2nd car
Buick Roadmaster 1947 Land Rover Rover both cars have a name containing the same word
Land Rover Rover Volkswagen T1 both cars have a front split window
Volkswagen T1 Mercedes-Benz w110 both cars have a nickname referring to features of the bodywork (splittie-fintail)
Mercedes-Benz w110 Auto Union 1000s De Luxe both cars have an unusual vertical speedometer
Auto Union 1000s De Luxe Citroen DS both cars have the gear shift in the same position (at the steering wheel)
Citroen DS Aston Martin Lagonda both cars have a similar design of the steering wheel (single spoke)
Aston Martin Lagonda BMW-Glas 3000 V8 both cars have a name containing another manufacturer's name
BMW-Glas 3000 V8 Glaserati Frick Studillac 1953 Both cars have a nickname with two car brand names merged together
Frick Studillac 1953 Horch 5hp Phaeton both manufacturers were founded by former blacksmiths
Horch 5hp Phaeton Oldsmobile Curved Dash Both founders were dismissed by theyr company and started a new make with a different version of theyr name
Oldsmobile Curved Dash TVR 3 1951 both founders named a company after an abbreviation of theyr own name (REO TVR)
TVR 3 1951 Renault 7 both cars have a name that is the number of letters used in the brand name
Renault 7 Suzuki Dzire Both cars are sedanized versions that were not built/sold in their home country (France/Japan)
Suzuki Dzire Citroen Dsuper 5 Both cars have a name beginning with 2 capital letters
Citroen Dsuper 5 Ford Zephyr Both cars have the spare wheel in the same position
Ford Zephyr Lady Penelope's Rolls Both cars were featured in TV shows and shared a plural name with a different car ("Z-Cars" "Thunderbirds")
Lady Penelope's Rolls Panther Six Both cars have 4 front and 2 rear wheels
Panther Six Nissan Leopard both cars are named after the same animal
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Some stats:
Most used marques:
Ford, 18 times
Citroen, 12 times
Mercedes-Benz, 9 times
Alfa Romeo, 7 times
Ferrari-Jaguar-Lancia-Lotus, 6 times
Most used models:
Citroen DS, Cord 812, Ford Pinto ,Jaguar E-type, 3 times
Ac Cobra, Ford Consul Capri, Ford Model T, Ford Mustang II, Lamborghini Miura, 2 times
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Wow - is this your full-time job PJ?!
Terrific puzzle.. could run for ever!
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Wow - is this your full-time job PJ?!
Terrific puzzle.. could run for ever!
Coming up for two years in just over a week's time already!
Mind you, it is getting difficult to think of new connections now.
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Nissan Leopard and 1989 Citroën XM
because both had a suspension system that adjusts itself automatically to the road surface (Sonar Suspension II and Hydractive)
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Citroën XM and the Peugeot 605
Both cars where designed on the same chassis and had Italian designers( Bertone/Pinninfarina), but both where taken way to fast into production which caused many problems and made them very unreliable the first years of production.
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Nissan Leopard and 1989 Citroën XM
because both had a suspension system that adjusts itself automatically to the road surface (Sonar Suspension II and Hydractive)
We had this:
Keller Super Chief Cy-Car TigerCat 3V2 both cars have similarities in the suspension system (rubber torsion springs)
but I think they can be considered different. ;)
Citroën XM and the Peugeot 605
Both cars where designed on the same chassis and had Italian designers( Bertone/Pinninfarina), but both where taken way to fast into production which caused many problems and made them very unreliable the first years of production.
:thumbsup:
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Peugeot 605 and the......and why?
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Peugeot 605 and the Venturi 200. Both were made into Dakar-rally concept vehicles.
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Venturi 200 and Volta VE2, because both cars come from companies, that built cars, which were to be identified at autopuzzles.com, posted by woodinsight and solved in this month
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Venturi 200 and Volta VE2, because both cars come from companies, that built cars, which were to be identified at autopuzzles.com, posted by woodinsight and solved in this month
that is nice, Wendax, but it doe sn't work like that.
It has to be a connection that defines the car or can be applied in general.
You can't post 2 cars you owned or two cars with the same colour or parked in the same street unless the owner is a known\famous personality, they were available only with that very colour, or that cars in that street are in the cover of a CD...those ore only examples of course.
Don't give up! :thumbsup:
Back to the Venturi 200
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How about this? Both companies share their names with an Italian physicist (Alessandro Volta and Giovanni Battista Venturi).
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How about this? Both companies share their names with an Italian physicist (Alessandro Volta and Giovanni Battista Venturi).
Perfect!
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SEER Volta VE2 and the Toyota Supra
As both companies also produce airport tractors
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Toyota Supra and Volvo XC 90 V8, because both cars have engines, that were developped in cooperation with Yamaha.
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Volvo XC90 and Oldsmobile Bravada.
Both were the make's first SUV.
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Oldsmobile Bravada and Hyundai Sonata:
Both cars were available as a Platinum Edition
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Too easy (so probably already used!) Hyundai Sonata and Honda Concerto.
Both named after a musical format.
(http://cs.club-honda.eu/graphics/gallery/full/35_concerto2.jpg)
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Honda Concerto and Roewe 750:
both cars share its platform with a Rover product
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Roewe 750 and Premier Padmini.
Both were european cars (Rover 75 and Fiat 1100D) which were produced in two orient countries with a different name after the end of the original productions.
MPC
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Very good!
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Premier Padmini and NSU/Fiat Europa: both cars are Fiat 1100 D built under license
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We already had this:
Changcheng Hafo CC 6460KY and Hillman Hunter: both cars were produced under licence (in Iran) from other manufacturers,
but your is different!
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NSU/Fiat Europa and Edwards America. Both cars are named after the continent where they were manufactured.
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Edwards America and Scott Sociable: both manufacturers share their names with US Air Force bases.
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Scott Sociable and Nissan Pivo concept. Both cars can only be driven forward, neither has a Reverse option.
A. A. Scott’s vehicle had a gearbox with no reverse gear; in the 360º-rotating cabin of the Pivo you sit always facing forward, no matter what direction the electric-driven wheels are moving.
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Cool! :thumbsup:
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Nissan Pivo and the Mclaren-F1
Both have a capacity of three passengers sitting in the same formation
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Nice one, but we already had this:
Wanderer W1 Püppchen 5-12 HP 1911 and Bédélia BD3 1913 : both cars have the same seating layout (tandem)
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The Nissan Pivo concept and the L'Automodule by Jean Pierre Ponthieu – both have a bubble shaped passenger cabin.
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L'Automodule by Jean Pierre Ponthieu and Reyonnah: you can alter the ground clearance of the cabin by moving the the levers the wheels are attached on.
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354 matches...and still counting! :thumbsup:
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Reyonnah and 1911 Sirron 10/14 HP. Both cars have a name that is a heteropalindrome: the last name of the person behind the project – Robert Hannoyer and H G Norris, respectively – spelled backwards.
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Sirron 10/14 HP and Belsize 10/12 HP, as both cars have the same engine displacement of 1944 cc.
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Time to close this chain?
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Please don’t do that! If you can accept a link that connects the manufacturers only, and not the actual cars themselves, I think I have a suggestion to make it go on:
Belsize 10/12 and Hotchkiss 617 Roadster-Cabriolet. During their last years both companies made an unexpected move, introducing a line of new and, at least for their standards, rather unorthodox cars, designed by, and also named after, a well-known and innovative engineer of their respective country (Granville Bradshaw → Belsize-Bradshaw, 1921-25; Jean-Albert Grégoire → Hotchkiss Grégoire, 1950-53).
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Very good! :thumbsup:
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There are too many matches already to check, but I hope we haven't had this.
Hotchkiss 617 and 1937 BSA Scout. both cars were made by companies that began as arms manufacturers before they built cars
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There are too many matches already to check, but I hope we haven't had this.
Hotchkiss 617 and 1937 BSA Scout. both cars were made by companies that began as arms manufacturers before they built cars
Don't worry, I'll take care of that.
We had this:
Hotchkiss Anjou 13/50 1952 and BSA Scout both manufacturers have a badge featuring firearms
but yours is different. :thumbsup:
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BSA Scout and BEF Lieferdreirad : both companies names are abbreviations that carry the name of the city where they built their cars. BSA = Birmingham Small Arms, BEF = Berliner Elektromobilfabrik.
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Very good!
Who's next?
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BEF Lieferdreirad and Maserati Quattroporte, both model names describe exactly what it is.
A 3 wheeled delivery car and a 4-door.
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Maserati Quattroporte and Toyota Corolla, because their manufacturers are using the model name for more than 30 years.
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Toyota Corolla and Lincoln Lido. Both cars have a model name that echoes the vowels of the marque name.
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:thumbsup:
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Lincoln Lido and Marcos Mantis, because make and model share the first two letters.
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Marcos Mantis and Amilcar CC
Both makes' names were a combination of the founders' names
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Amilcar CC and NSU TT, both model names consist only of a doubled consonant.
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NSU TT and AJS Nine Saloon; both cars were produced by a manufacturer whose motorcycles had earlier scored a 1-2-3-4 victory at the same event.
In the 1954 Tourist Trophy on the Isle of Man NSU took the first four places in the 250 cc division; the same feat was performed by AJS thirty-three years earlier in the Junior class.
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AJS Nine Saloon and Opel Kadett Lieferwagen, because both companies built vehicles named Admiral and Commodore. AJS built buses with that model designation, Opel upper-class cars.
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Opel Kadett Lieferwagen and Triumph Vitesse Estate. Both model names were introduced and, after an interval of more than two decades , re-introduced, the same year.
Both Kadett and Vitesse names had previously been used by the manufacturers on a pre-war model, introduced in 1936: Opel released Kadett in December that year, Triumph’s new Vitesse Saloon was presented at the Paris Motor Show two months earlier. Both models were soon discontinued, with no post-war successor to carry the name until 1962, when the Kadett A and the six-cylinder Vitesse were unveiled.
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Triumph Vitesse Estate and Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud III Continental Drophead coupe, because they both have a "Chinese eyes" headlight configuration.
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The Rolls-Royce Mulliner Park Ward Silver Cloud / Continental and the Saab 9-5.
Both vehicles were styled by Norwegian car designers;
Wilhelm Koren designed the Rolls-Royce/ Bentley
Einar Hareide designed the Saab 9-5
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Saab 9-5 and Rumpler Tropfenwagen, because both companies built airplanes as well.
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Rumpler Tropfenwagen and Alfa Romeo P33 Cuneo. Both model names refer to the shape of the body.
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So far so good!
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Rumpler Tropfenwagen and Alfa Romeo P33 Cuneo. Both model names refer to the shape of the body.
Please enlighten we ignoramouses what 'Tropfenwagen' and 'Cuneo' mean?! (I always thought Cuneo referred to a town..)
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Tropfen = drop (as in teardrop)
Wagen = car
Cuneo is Italian for wedge.
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Tropfen = drop (as in teardrop)
Wagen = car
Cuneo is Italian for wedge.
Thanks! The Wagen bit I knew.
Strange name for a town..!
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Alfa Romeo P33 Cuneo and Opel Manta Black Magic, because their model designations include names which have an ambiguous meaning, of which one is a Piedmontese municipality.
(Thanks for the strange town name hint ;D )
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Opel Manta Black Magic and Mini After Eight.
Both cars are named after a box of chocolate!
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Mini After Eight and Citroen 2 CV 6 Sausss-Ente, because both were limited editions not offered on their home markets. The Mini After Eight was offered in France, the Citroen 2 CV 6 Sausss-Ente in Germany.
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Citroën 2CV6 and Citroën 15-Six D
Both cars had a different tax horsepower rating than their names suggest.
The 2CV6 was actually a 3CV and the 15-Six (also called 15CV) was a 16CV.
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Citroen 15 Six D and Ford V8, because they both have a reputation as being suitable cars for gangsters.
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1932 Ford V8-18 and 1949 Mercury Eight
Both were popular hot-rod bases
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1949 Mercury Eight six passenger coupe and Auto Union 1000 S Coupé, because they both have a three-piece rear window
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So far so good...shall we end it?
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Auto Union and VW Beetle. Both are German saloon cars that later gave up their mechanicals for small 'sports' cars that mimicked American car designs (DKW 1000SP/ Ford Thunderbird and the VW Karman-Ghia/ Chrysler Coupe D'elegance)
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Volkswagen Beetle and Rover P4, because their rear windows were enlarged considerabily during their production run.
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Last week.
Continue the chain or Wendax will have his points.
If some of our new members do not know the rules, they are easy, connect the last car of this chain (Rover P4 in this case) with a new one and give a valid reason.
You can earn up to 5 points (if you find a really distinctive connection), you can't use twice the same link (don't worry, I'm taking care of that..) and you should add a pic of the car you choose.
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Have we had this one before?
Rover 75 (that's the P4 version pictured above) and Tucker Torpedo - both cars have a cyclops light in the middle:
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We have a new candidate for those points... ;)
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Tucker Torpedo and Lanz Eilbulldog, as their number of exhaust pipes corresponds to the amount of cylinders their engines have.
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Well surely we've had this one before but let's try it:
Lanz Eilbulldog and Lamborghini Diablo SV - both cars have rear wheels that are bigger than those at the front:
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Well surely we've had this one before but let's try it:
:-\ (Bennet Drag Car and MCC Smart Fortwo both cars have front and rear tires of different sizes)
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Well surely we've had this one before but let's try it:
:-\ (Bennet Drag Car and MCC Smart Fortwo both cars have front and rear tires of different sizes)
Yes, thought it unlikely..
Shall I delete my post?
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No need to delete, just find another one or we can take a step back and proceed from here:
Tucker Torpedo and Lanz Eilbulldog, as their number of exhaust pipes corresponds to the amount of cylinders their engines have
Lanz Eilbulldog and what car? why?
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OK, let's try again!
Lanz Eilbulldog and Model T Ford: Both cars have separate headlights fixed to a horizontal metal bar!
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:thumbsup:
(not a 5-point connection, but still a good one! ;D )
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Ford Model T and Citroen B14, as they both were assembled in Germany, too.
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Citroen B14 and the Chevron B17 (the green car behind the Brabham)
Both share their type designation with a bomber aircraft designed in the 1930's and pressed into service during WWII (The Lockheed B14 / "Hudson" and the Boeing B17 / "Flying Fortress")
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Chevron B17 and Citroen HY, as the marque name of the first is part of the marque emblem of the latter.
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I had to read it twice but now I got that ;D
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I had to read it twice but now I got that ;D
Sounds like a five-pointer then :D
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That's clever! :applause:
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Citroen H van and Minidor CNG Delivery Van: they're both made of bits of spare roofing material someone found lying around... well all right then, they both have load areas made of corrugated steel!
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Minidor CNG Delivery Van and Ligier BeSun both lack doors.
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Ligier BeSun minivan and Reliant Scimitar. Both were made by companies that made the slightly odd combination of basic vans and sports cars:
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Reliant Scimitar and BMW 2002 Targa both have bootlids that protrude into the rear wings.
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BMW 2002 Targa and Triumph TR4 Surrey Top.
Both cars, although ostensibly convertibles, have some fixed windows around the rear and a removable roof panel in what later became known as a Targa Top, after Porsche made a 911 Targa. In fact it had been invented much earlier, Triumph's TR4 having what they called a "Surrey Top".
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Triumph TR 4 Surrey Top and Austin A40 Somerset DHC, as they both carry a name of one of the 39 historic counties of England.
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The Austin A40 Somerset's name includes that of the main road from London to Oxford (A40) and the Audi A10 has the same reference to the main road from London to Cambridge! (for the benefit of non-British members, they are our two ancient university towns)
(http://pkts.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/audi-a10-tdi-1.jpg?w=468)
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Wow!
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Allan, I like yours, too. But this puzzle must go on ;D
Audi A 10 and BMW 320 d, as they were both the first Diesel engined cars to win a famous 24h race, the Audi in 2006 at Le Mans, the BMW in 1998 at the Nürburgring.
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BMW 320 d and a Brewster-Ford Town Car
Both cars are recognizable by grills that are in ways that recall human organs: the BMW "kidney" grill, and the Brewster "heart"
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Brewster Town Car and Ford Model 40 Special Speedster, as Edsel Ford owned both of them
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We had this
Cord 812 Phaeton 1937 Tom Mix's and Duesenberg J Rollston Conv. 1937 both car companies were owned by the same man, in the last year of their production
but yurs is new :thumbsup:
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Ford Model 40 Special Speedster and Rover Jet1. Both cars are notable one-offs that underwent a front end restyling in their early days.
The radiator area of the ’34 Speedster was modified by its creators, Edsel Ford and E. T. Gregoire, in 1940, the Jet1 was given a new nose job in 1952, just two years after its introduction.
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Rover Jet 1 (in its initial version) and the Renault 12 prototype "Project 117", as they both featured three headlamps.
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Renault's Project 117 R12 prototype and the Rover P6 (2000, 2200, 3500), as they were both three-box sedans/saloons that could have with the spare wheel mounted on the rear trunk/boot lid.
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Rover P6 and Simca 1307 / 1308, as they both were elected as "Car of the Year"
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The Simca 1307/1308 and Alpine GTA, as they both had different model names in the British market (with an 'Alpine' connection), the Simca being called the Chrysler Alpine, and the Alpine being the known as the Renault GTA.
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Alpine GTA and Volkswagen 1500 Typ 3 Cabriolet, as they both have two trunks, one up front and one in the back.
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Rover P6 and Simca 1307 / 1308, as they both were elected as "Car of the Year"
We had this:
Opel G90 Pininfarina Rossa both cars won the same award
but I'll accept yours too.
403 matches so far! :thumbsup:
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VW 1500 Typ 3 Cabriolet and Ford Comète Cabriolet. Both cars are convertibles based on a two-door sedan model of the company, developed but never produced.
Although officially advertised in the early sixties, the pretty VW 1500 Cabriolet never went into mass production. Neither did the Comète Cabriolet, of which only two prototypes are known to be built.
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Ford Comète Cabriolet and Citroen C3 Picasso were both built in factories, where the Peugeot 207 is being built, the Ford at Poissy, the Citroen at Trnava in Slovakia.
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Citroen C3 Picasso and Fiat Panda Sisley:
Both cars feature in their names that of a famous painter.
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Fiat Panda 4x4 Sisley and Toyota FJ Cruiser: they were both fitted with inclinometers.
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FJ Holden :
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FJ Holden :
?
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Toyota FJ and FJ Holden 1950 ;D
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Toyota FJ and FJ Holden 1950 ;D
We already had the model designation as a connection. :(
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The Toyota FJ Cruiser and Toyota Bandeirante, two derivatives of the Toyota Land Cruiser that were not built in Japan.
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Toyota Bandeirante and Silaos Demoiselle, as they contain country names in their designations.
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The Silaos Demoiselle and Alpine A108 Berlinette, as both cars were manufactured in the same town (Dieppe, France).
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The Silaos Demoiselle and Alpine A108 Berlinette, as both cars were manufactured in the same town (Dieppe, France).
We already had this too:
Fiat Coupe 1993 Lancia Augusta Whittingam & Mitchell 1935 both cars were built in the same city (Turin)
The Toyota FJ Cruiser and Toyota Bandeirante, two derivatives of the Toyota Land Cruiser that were not built in Japan.
We had this:
Mini After Eight Citroen 2 CV 6 Sausss-Ente both cars were limited editions not offered on their home markets
but your is different
Toyota Bandeirante and Silaos Demoiselle, as they contain country names in their designations.
:thumbsup:
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So PJ, does this mean that the last submission is invalid (same town), but the Toyota one is OK? Thanks.
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So PJ, does this mean that the last submission is invalid (same town), but the Toyota one is OK? Thanks.
Yes, this one is the last one:
Toyota Bandeirante and Silaos Demoiselle, as they contain country names in their designations
Silaos Demoiselle and what car? why?
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The Silas Demoiselle and Deauville Canard, as they both use seats taken from a Citroen 2CV.
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Deauville Canard and Bignan AL both carry marque names that also are names of towns in Northern France.
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The Bignan AL and Fiat 509.
Although Bignan's founder Jacques Bignan built cars under his own name, he raced competitor marques and models, including the Fiat 509 in which he won the 1929 Monte Carlo Rally (as illustrated).
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Fiat 509 and Turbot Rhino 1, as both cars were driven by comic heroes drawn by Franquin
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Turbot Rhino I and a Paling Low profile double cab Transporter, as both have a fish as make name (Turbot is turbot in English, Paling is eel in Dutch)
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Paling Low profile double cab Transporter and Steinwinter 20.40 both have the cab below the cargo area.
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The Steinwinter 2.40 and Morgan Aero 8, as both have three windscreen/windshild wipers.
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Pages and pages of increasingly difficult connections of cars to cars.
But now it connecting trucks to cars? Shall we add scooters, skate-boards and motorboats, too?
We've already done "cars in cartoons" as a connector, too.
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It's Paul's puzzle, let him decide.
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Of course. :)
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Sorry for the delay...
The Silas Demoiselle and Deauville Canard, as they both use seats taken from a Citroen 2CV.
:thumbsup:
Deauville Canard and Bignan AL both carry marque names that also are names of towns in Northern France.
:thumbsup:
The Bignan AL and Fiat 509.
Although Bignan's founder Jacques Bignan built cars under his own name, he raced competitor marques and models, including the Fiat 509 in which he won the 1929 Monte Carlo Rally (as illustrated).
:thumbsdown:
We had this:
AFM 2.5l 1951 BMW 700RS 1960 builder of the 1st car was pilot in the 2nd
Fiat 509 and Turbot Rhino 1, as both cars were driven by comic heroes drawn by Franquin
It was fine, because we already had this one, different from yours
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 Ford X-100 1953 both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
but now we are back to the Fiat 509.
Turbot Rhino I and a Paling Low profile double cab Transporter, as both have a fish as make name (Turbot is turbot in English, Paling is eel in Dutch)
I'd like to have cars in this chain ;)
Paling Low profile double cab Transporter and Steinwinter 20.40 both have the cab below the cargo area.
See above. ;)
The Steinwinter 2.40 and Morgan Aero 8, as both have three windscreen/windshild wipers.
good connection but we have to get back to the Fiat.
Deauville Canard and Bignan AL both carry marque names that also are names of towns in Northern France.
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The Bignan AL and Fiat 509.
Although Bignan's founder Jacques Bignan built cars under his own name, he raced competitor marques and models, including the Fiat 509 in which he won the 1929 Monte Carlo Rally (as illustrated).
So, is this where we are now? Or the reply before it?
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Fiat 509 and Daihatsu Terios
This Fiat 509, decorated like Gaston's car, appeared at the 2006 International Auto Show in Brussels. At the car show in Brussels this car was still a concept. Now it is sold as the Daihatsu Terios. In Japan there is also a Toyota version of the car called Rush.
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The Bignan AL and Fiat 509.
Although Bignan's founder Jacques Bignan built cars under his own name, he raced competitor marques and models, including the Fiat 509 in which he won the 1929 Monte Carlo Rally (as illustrated).
So, is this where we are now? Or the reply before it?
Deauville Canard and Bignan AL both carry marque names that also are names of towns in Northern France.
This is the last one:
Deauville Canard and Bignan AL both carry marque names that also are names of towns in Northern France
and here is where we have to start from:
Bignal AL and what car ? why?
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After nearly 3 years, 28720 views, 1176 replies, 411 correct connections, I'm afraid it's arrived the time to end this chain, (unless there is still someone willing to play it.)
But, like all the good things, this final act has to be special...and here's the new rule:
From now on, starting from BIGNAN AL, each one of you is allowed to post more than 1 car in the same reply, continuing this chain alone as long as you can, in order to steer this chain toward a car you think will be undefeatable. After each post, please, wait for me to check it before adding a new series of links.
Bignan AL and what car? why?
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Wendax will have his points if no one finds another car within this week.
This chain will be over on Sunday.
(unless you want to keep it active)
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How about:
Bignan AL and Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud I: they both have radiator grilles styled after classical Greek architecture!
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Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud I and Wolseley 1500 both have badge engineered twins, Bentley S 1 and Riley 1.5 respectively.
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So far so good.
:thumbsup:
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Wolseley 1500 and Panhard 24CT.
The manufacturers of both these cars finally disappeared off the scene in 1975 after a long and illustrious history:
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Panhard 24 CT and Fiat 500 D, as they both won their classes in the Mobil Economy Run 1964.
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Panhard 24 CT and Fiat 500 D, as they both won their classes in the Mobil Economy Run 1964.
We had:
Rob Walker Racing Lotus 18 F1 1961 and Ferrari 625 F1 1955 both cars won the same race (Monaco)
..but this is different.
Who's next?
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Fiat 500D and Citroen 2CV:
Both cars were most commonly made with a roll-back fabric roof rather than steel.
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Citroen 2 CV and Volkswagen Passat B1, as both cars were available with circular and rectangular headlights.
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Volkswagen Passat B1 and Austin A55 Cambridge:
Both manufacturers turned to Italian styling houses to add some pizzazz to their ranges (in VW's case ItalDesign Giugiaro and BMC's it was Pininfarina):
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Austin A55 Cambridge and Opel Commodore C: there were cars offered in Australia that were based on them, but featured engines with more cylinders, the Austin Freeway and the Holden Commodore V8 respectively.
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Holden Commodore V8 and the Chevrolet Chevy II - both cars primary market rivals were called "Ford Falcon"
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Chevrolet Chevy II 100 and MG A 1600 Mk II as they both have Roman and Arabic numerals in their name.
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MGA 1600 MkII and Ford Cortina MkII:
Both cars came with a 1600cc pushrod engine but both offered a 1600cc Twin Cam version as an option:
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If I remember it right, there never was a twin cam version of the MGA Mk II. Or does my memory fool me?
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If I remember it right, there never was a twin cam version of the MGA Mk II. Or does my memory fool me?
Well I never knew that but you are, of course, right Wendax.
So instead:
Same car (Ford Cortina MkII) as both that and the MGA 1600 MkII had in their earlier 1500cc MkI iterations an alternative 1600cc Twin Cam model available.
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Ford Cortina Mk II and Ford Capri Mk I, as both were modified by South African Basil Green to become Piranas
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Ford Capri Mk 1 and 1964 Ford Mustang:
Both cars had a set of dummy intakes ahead of the rear wheels which served absolutely no useful purpose whatsoever..
I'd like to see PJ OK the links so far though before continuing the game..
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Ford Mustang and Mitsubishi Colt.
A type of horse breed is used for the model name of both cars.
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Mitsubishi Colt and Plymouth Colt
Same car, same name, different companies
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I'd like to see PJ OK the links so far though before continuing the game..
It takes some time, but so sar so good...we already had "named after the same animal" and "named after the same animal in the respective country" but not "named after different breeds of the same animal".(we had "named after the cat mamber of animals" but not this).
Mitsubishi Colt and Plymouth Colt
Same car, same name, different companies
:thumbsup:
Few days left...on Sunday 23:59 (my) local time
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The Plymouth Colt and Pontiac Aztec.
Both vehicles sold by US marques that were founded in the 1920s and killed off by their large parent companies in the early 21st Century.
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Pontiac Aztec and AMC Pacer
Both get the nod for being the ugliest cars to ever grace the roadways of the United States
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The AMC Pacer an Saab 96 V4.
Both cars were originally planned to use engines that were never actually fitted to the final production versions; a Wankel rotary engine in the Pacer (built by Curtiss-Wright), and the Lancia Fulvia V4 motor in the 96 V4 (which Saab then rejected as Lancia's lowest ex-works price made it too expensive to fit in the car and keep the retail price competitive).
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1967 Saab 96 and 1967 Fiat 1100R
Both companies also made jet fighter aircraft. Saab JAS-39 Gripen and Fiat G.91
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Already used:
Saab 9-5 and Rumpler Tropfenwagen: both companies built airplanes as well
back to the Saab 96 1967
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Saab 96 V4 and Trabant 1.1, as they were both four-stroke engined cars initially being powered by two-stroke engines.
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Ford Mustang and Mitsubishi Colt.
A type of horse breed is used for the model name of both cars.
A minor point, perhaps, but a colt is not a breed of horse. A colt is any male horse of less than 4 years of age that had not been castrated.
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Saab 96 V4 and Trabant 1.1, as they were both four-stroke engined cars initially being powered by two-stroke engines.
26 hours left...
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Since the Colt travesty has been allowed to stand... ;)
Trabant 1.1 and 1972 Plymouth Satellite
Both are named for man-made, Earth orbiting mechanisms.
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Plymouth Satellite and Toro 1300 both have bumpers surrounding the headlights.
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Plymouth Satellite and Toro 1300 both have bumpers surrounding the headlights.
Have you got a picture of the Toro 1300 please?
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Less than 7 hours left...
Since the Colt travesty has been allowed to stand... ;)
I've accepted it in a modified version: Mustang and Colt are both terms used for horses.
Thank you for explaining me the difference. (when I googled 'Colt' and 'Horse' I didn't get it...)
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Plymouth Satellite and Toro 1300 both have bumpers surrounding the headlights.
Have you got a picture of the Toro 1300 please?
Fixed
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Maybe this one is a bit too similar to Wendax's Citroen 2CV/VW Passat connection (both came with either circular or rectangular headlights) but:
Toro 1300 and VW Scirocco Mk1:
Both came with either rectangular or twin headlights:
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It's fine.
2 hours left.
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Volkswagen Scirocco I and Volvo 480 ES were both coupes that were introduced before their sedan counterparts, the VW Golf I and the Volvo 440.
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Not sure if this puzzle is still open or not?
If it is, then the Volvo 480 ES and (badly-named) Mitsubishi Charisma, as they were both built in the same ex-DAF/NedCar factory in the Netherlands.
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I think the puzzle is supposed to be over by now, but nevertheless we already had:
Delaunay-Belleville 70CV SMT Kellner 1908 Rovin D1 1CV 1/2 1946 both cars were built in the same factory building
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OK, in that case, the Volvo 480 ES and Opel Corsa A, as both cars were shown as two-seater convertible prototypes that never actually made production.
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Not sure if this puzzle is still open or not?
If it is, then the Volvo 480 ES and (badly-named) Mitsubishi Charisma, as they were both built in the same ex-DAF/NedCar factory in the Netherlands.
The puzzle is over and Wendax is the winner.
I can leave it open only if
1. Wendax agree
2. You want me to.
;)
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One should finish as long as it is fun. Let's call it "Game over".
Perhaps one day there will be a new chain?
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It's a shame that it couldn't be extended by just one more page to reach 50 pages, which would seem to have been a logical point at which to stop. Anyway, thanks for all the fun you created PJ, and here's to another new chain soon, and well done Wendax. ;D
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Wow!
Congrats Wendax!
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Wow!
Congrats Wendax!
And PJ too - it's been great fun.
Well done to both of you!
Actually the outcome was never in doubt: Wendax had got his replies down to about 10 minutes after each previous post..!
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Actually the outcome was never in doubt: Wendax had got his replies down to about 10 minutes after the previous post..!
That was part of the fun I had.
Thank you for this puzzle, Paul.
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Thank you for the support...you can't imagine how it was hard, each time, to check all your replies, but it's been terribly fun.
Now the points.
both coupes that were introduced before their sedan counterparts
Not a generic connection, not an impossible one.
I think there are few cars that can be connectd this way (the Giulietta is the 1st to came to my mind) but not many.
1 point: generic link, can be used for thousands of different cars
2 points: harder link, can be used for different cars, but not many.
3 points: very hard link, probably there are other cars that can use the same link but it's unlikely
4 points: impossible link, only these 2 cars can use this link
2 points for you!
Congratulations!
(BTW: next reply will generate Page 50 ;D )
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Yes, thanks for the fun over nearly three years!
Some very informative links which I'm sure will come in useful sometime.
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(BTW: next reply will generate Page 50 ;D )
It didn't, but perhaps this one will. If not, I'll erase it.
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I forgot to close this chain:
Volvo 480ES and Abarth 750 Zagato Coupé 1956: manufacturer of the 2nd car produced an exhaust system for the manufacturer of the 1st.
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:thumbsup: