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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #850 on: May 12, 2010, 06:17:53 PM »
Assuming the most recent colour/ugly suggestions have been discounted, then back to the Mullen L1X-75 GTEV.

So, the American Mullen L1X-75 GTEV and the British Avelle GTA, as they both share the same body shell.
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #851 on: May 12, 2010, 06:27:01 PM »
Perfect!

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #852 on: May 12, 2010, 06:51:59 PM »
The Avelle GTA and the Lamborghini Countach

They both have a space frame chassis


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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #853 on: May 12, 2010, 07:04:00 PM »
Outrageously right!

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #854 on: May 12, 2010, 07:27:12 PM »
As an aside, the Avelle GTA and Lamborghini Countach are both also mid-engined with a space frame chassis :P

Anyway, how about the Lamborghini Countach and the Alfa Romeo 33 Carabo, as both cars have switch blade-type scissor doors (and are both Bertone designs of course!).
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #855 on: May 12, 2010, 07:34:24 PM »
We already had this
GAZ-18  and  Hanomag 1,3.   both cars have the same type of doors (suicide).  :-\

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #856 on: May 12, 2010, 10:59:26 PM »
Lamborghini Countach and the Len Terry designed LT24 by Leda Cars.

Both had an engine that was mounted lengthwise in the chassis, just ahead of the rear axle, with the power take off at the front.

Both had the power directed back with a driveshaft to mate up with the differential that was mounted behind the engine.


( sorry no pic, I'll have to scan it out of a book )
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #857 on: May 13, 2010, 06:22:24 AM »
I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #858 on: May 13, 2010, 06:23:09 AM »
  :cheer: :cheer: Post 100000  :cheer: :cheer:
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #859 on: May 13, 2010, 11:05:03 AM »
Woo-hoo! Another milestone.  :hyper:
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #860 on: May 13, 2010, 02:47:18 PM »
I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...

I can P/M you the Info.

And which book its in.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #861 on: May 13, 2010, 02:58:14 PM »
I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...

I can P/M you the Info.

And which book its in.
I believe you (but you can PM the title of the book if you like, I won't use it for further puzzles) but it was post #99999 and I had to write something to reach 100000... ;D

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #862 on: May 13, 2010, 10:08:12 PM »
I'll check this one...a pic will be highly appreciated but not mandatory...

I can P/M you the Info.

And which book its in.
I believe you (but you can PM the title of the book if you like, I won't use it for further puzzles) but it was post #99999 and I had to write something to reach 100000... ;D



Cool... ;D

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #863 on: May 13, 2010, 10:25:56 PM »
On the Countach.

Stanzani knew the big V12 would inevitably made the rear end heavier than the front, thus resulting in excessive oversteer and difficult handling. To make Countach more balanced, he created a new idea - placing the gearbox and clutch in front of the engine, that is, in the wide central tunnel between the driver and the passenger. There was another advantage: the linkage between shifter and gearbox was vastly shortened so that gearshift became more precise and effortless.
Nevertheless, there were some drawbacks. The output from the gearbox was transmitted back to the rear axle via a drive shaft locating underneath the engine, inside the sump. Inevitably, the engine had to be raised for a few inches to accommodate the drive shaft. As a result, center of gravity was raised, too.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #864 on: May 13, 2010, 10:34:41 PM »
On the LT24.

LT24 SPORTS CAR.
This road car reached the first-prototype stage and covered over 2000miles of strenious testing, but unfortunately the project went into hibernation with the liquidation of Leda Cars in July 1972.

And.

Transmission from the engine to the clutch was by means of an enclosed roller-chain drive, an exposed( standard Zodiac) propeller shaft and a second identical chain drive, as shown in the accompanying schematic layout.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #865 on: May 14, 2010, 06:58:26 PM »
Len Terry designed LT24 by Leda Cars and the 1947-'48 Dommartin (a rebuilt based on the French SEFAC project 1939)

Both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race because of a bancrupty

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #866 on: May 14, 2010, 07:58:52 PM »
1947-'48 Dommartin and the 1956 Ferrari D50.

Both were GP cars designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time, and both were recycled versions of another GP race car.
( SEFAC & Lancia )

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #867 on: May 15, 2010, 02:56:59 AM »
Len Terry designed LT24 by Leda Cars and the 1947-'48 Dommartin (a rebuilt based on the French SEFAC project 1939)
Both cars never pased the testing fase an so never entered a official race because of a bancrupty
Perfect (as I understood LT24 was supposed to be a road car, but it never entered a race, after all...)

1947-'48 Dommartin and the 1956 Ferrari D50.

Both were GP cars designed to do battle with the Mercedes' of the time, and both were recycled versions of another GP race car.
( SEFAC & Lancia )

A good multipoint one!

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #868 on: May 15, 2010, 05:14:26 AM »
1956 Ferrari D50 and the 1955 Mercedes Benz W196 L8

Both cars did not finish just one grand prix in their year because of transmission falure (MB 1955 Monaco.Ferrari 1956 Belgium )
and still both cars took the championship in their year. (that they where both driven by the same man was already done) but both cars became wordchampion with the same driver Juan Manuel Fangio
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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #869 on: May 15, 2010, 05:23:58 AM »
Wow!

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #870 on: May 15, 2010, 04:04:31 PM »
1955 Mercedes Benz W196 L8 and Lotus 79.

Because of their dominance in the 1955 and 1978 seasons, in the hands of Fangio/Moss, and Andretti/Peterson.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #871 on: May 15, 2010, 04:26:29 PM »
I din't get this.... :-\

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #872 on: May 15, 2010, 04:30:36 PM »
I din't get this.... :-\

Fangio/Moss came in 1 - 2 throughout the season, so did Andretti/ Peterson.

I remember people talking about the '55 season while the Lotus 79 was steamrolling the opposition.

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #873 on: May 15, 2010, 05:28:17 PM »
 :thumbsup:
Got it!

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Re: Neverending Chain
« Reply #874 on: May 15, 2010, 05:34:51 PM »
Lotus 79 and the Lola T294 BMW

Both cars crached on the Monza Circuit leading to the tragic death of both its drivers

 Lotus 79 1978 Ronnie Peterson (S)
Peterson died from injuries received in a first lap collision at the Italian Grand Prix.

Lola T294 BMW  1974 Silvio Moser (CH)
Moser died from severe injuries without regaining consciousness, some time after being involved in an accident while driving his Lola-BMW in the 1000 km sports car race at Monza.
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