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Started by Paul Jaray, January 01, 2009, 07:40:32 AM

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Otto Puzzell

Opel Omega B and Holden VE Commodore. Derivatives of each platform were sold by as top-of-the-line Pontiac models in the US (Pontiac GTO and Pontiac G8, respectively)

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Paul Jaray

#276
Actually the last car is an Omega A, but that's fine (the Omega B is a derivate...).
Opel Omega 1986  and Holden VE Commodore 2007      both cars have a derivate sold by another manufacturer (Pontiac)

See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.

-Both cars have the same: builder,
                          engineer,
                          designer,
                          factory building,
                          builder's name,
                          model's name,
                          country,
                          city of construction,
                          year,
                          engine,
                          engine layout,
                          seating layout,
                          wheels\disc brakes
                          position of the engine
                          source of energy,
                          number of CV,
                          traction,
                          body style elements,
                          mileage radius,
                          Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system

-Both cars:               are one-off,
                          are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
                          have one exceptional technical spec,
                          have similarities in the steering mechanism
                          have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
                          have equivalents in other countries
                          have a name referring to different manufacturers
                          have a coachbuilt version of the same design
                          have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
                          have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
                          have a derivate sold by another manufacturer
                          were the first cars produced by their makers
                          were the basis for racing cars
                          were in the same list
                          are the high-output version of a standard model
                          star in a film, 
                          had later revival projects,
                          are named after daughters of the cars distributors
                          are named after the same object\thing,
                          are named after meteorological events
                          derived from different cars,
                          derived from the same car,
                          won the same race,
                          are in the same collection\museum\event
                          their engineers worked for the same company\model
                          are missing of a part
                          Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
                          are the product of three countries
                          first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder

-One car:                 its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
                          is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
                          is a styling mockup that became the other car
                          its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
                          its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
                          its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd
                          inspired the other

-Both manufacturers:      produced the same non-automotive object
                          made an unorthodox vehicle
                          had a specific coachwork for a country
                          Their last model derives from the same car

-One manufacturer:        worked for the other
                          had a relative working for the other
                          was a pilot in the other car
                          built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other

-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
                          the name of a special version of the other
                          the circuit where it raced,
                          the part introduced first time,
                          the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
                          the same name in a different language,
                          the name of the city founded,
                          the number of cars produced,
                          the number of one dimension of the other,
                          the name of the engine

-The same:                man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd
                          man was director of the first and founded the second company
                          man designed one car and the car which inspired the other

DynaMike

In the 30s Holden was just the Australian importer of GM cars (chassis), bt in 1936 Laurence Hartnett instigated plans for building a 'real' Australian car. This resulted in 1948 in the first Holden. But just before, Hartnett, the father of Holden, left GMH to start its own business, and he presented a car with his own name: the Hartnett, a 600 cc front wheel drive car with an aluminium body, based on a Grégoire prototype. Some 125 of these were built  in 1951. So the Holden VE Commodore can be linked to the 1951 Hartnett, because the father of one make (the first) also created its own make (the second).

Paul Jaray

I like this!
Holden VE Commodore 2007   and   Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951   the same man was director of the first and founded the second company

Paul Jaray

It seems that Dynamike found an hard one!
6 days closer to your well deserved pointS.
Is anyone able to continue it?

GRAYWOLF

This turbine powered 1952 SOCEMA Gregoire was designed by the man (Jean Albert Gregoire) who's design inspired the Hartnett.

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun."-Patrick Henry

Paul Jaray

This is good!

Hartnett Pacific\Tasman 1951   and   SOCEMA Gregoire 1952  the same man designed one car and the car which inspired the other

DynaMike


Djetset

The SOCEMA Gregoire was the inspiration behind the fantastic fantasy comic strip Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 car.
A car is for life, not just for Christmas.

Otto Puzzell

Quote from: DynaMike on March 12, 2009, 06:41:22 PM
What a beauty...  ::)

Eye of the beholder, etc...

That's long been one of my favorite 'what if' cars.
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

Paul Jaray

 SOCEMA Gregoire 1952  and  Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1   one car inspired the other
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1   and     what car ?     why?

Now it's interesting...

Ray B.

#286
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ray Banana's Ford X-100: both cars are concept cars or prototype (imaginary for the Turbo and real for the X-100) used by comic books characters.
He Touched Me With His Noodly Appendage

Djetset

I like your thinking Ray B.  I was worried that the Turbo-Rhino 1 might have steered us into a cul-de-sac, or the next link would have been some wretched special-edition Suzuki Jimny.  Good work!
A car is for life, not just for Christmas.

Paul Jaray

Quote from: Djetset on March 13, 2009, 09:48:16 AM
I like your thinking Ray B. I was worried that the Turbo-Rhino 1 might have steered us into a cul-de-sac, or the next link would have been some wretched special-edition Suzuki Jimny. Good work!
Me too!
Spirou & Fantasio Turbo-Rhino 1 and Ford X-100 1953 (Ray Banana's)  both cars are concept cars\prototype used by books\movies\... characters
How can we continue this?
Ford X-100 1953  and  what car?    why?

Ray B.

#289
No problemo. I am unbeatable when it comes to the Ford X-100. This car was also called the Continental X, and presented as a Lincoln. However, there is a mockup that logically predates it, called the Lincoln Typhoon. Is a mockup eligible for this chain?

If so I suggest: Ford X-100 and Lincoln Typhoon. The second car is a styling mockup that became the first car.

He Touched Me With His Noodly Appendage

Paul Jaray

Ford X-100 1953  and  Lincoln Typhoon  1952  The second car is a styling mockup that became the first car
Is this the final step?
Lincoln Typhoon  1952  and what car?  why?

DynaMike

Lincoln Typhoon  1952  and   1976 Maserati Khamsin,   because both cars have names after some sort of wind  (we had already daughters and object/thing, but I guess a wind is nor a daughter, nor an object/thing)

Paul Jaray

Lincoln Typhoon  1952  and   Maserati Khamsin 1976,   both cars are named after meteorological events
back to safe streets...

Quiller

Maserati Khamsin & Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow because they both used Citroen-patented hydropneumatic systems

Paul Jaray

This will never end!!
Maserati Khamsin 1976  and  Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19--  both cars have the same Citroen-patented hydropneumatic system

Arunas

#295
I am not very good at those things so PJ please tell if this suits:

Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow and 1923 Lancia Lambda.

Silver Shadow was the first Rolls-Royce to have monocoque chassis while Lancia Lambda was the first car to feature a monocoque construction.


Paul Jaray

Good!
Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow 19--  and Lancia Lambda 1923  both cars first introduced the same feature, one in the world, the other for its builder

75america

1923 Lancia Lambda and 1976 Volvo  244.  The Volvo 244 was the first car equipped with a lambda sensor.


Paul Jaray

It's unbelievable how many different ways are out there to connect two different cars!
But I'm afraid this one is out of the game:
Renault Type A 1½ CV  1898                      and           Tracta T11  (first car with CV joint) 1929                  model's name-part introduced first time
You have 24 hours to find another one for the same car or a new car.


Otto Puzzell

1923 Lancia Lambda and 1923 Audi Type K. The Lambda is named for the 11th letter of the Greek alphabet; The type K (in this case, an aerodynamic study from 1923) is named for the 11th letter of the Latin alphabet.

You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!