Author Topic: Neverending Chain, now closed! (Read 93923 times)

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #250 on:** February 27, 2009, 08:51:19 AM »

You mean "both cars have the same body style elements" like the fins in the "Amphicar 770 Cabriolet 1963 and Cadillac Coupe de Ville 1960" link or
"both cars have devices to aid aerodynamics" linke the spoilers in the Steyr-Puch 650 TR 1964 and MG Metro 1982 ?
both connections are out of the game...

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #251 on:** February 28, 2009, 03:48:39 AM »

See pag.1 for rules and reply n.43 on pag.2 for the connections already used.

-Both cars have the same: builder,
engineer,
designer,
factory building,
builder's name,
model's name,
country,
city of construction,
year,
engine,
engine layout,
seating layout,
wheels\disc brakes
position of the engine
source of energy,
number of CV,
traction,
body style elements,
mileage radius,

-Both cars: are one-off,
have one exceptional technical spec,
have similarities in the steering mechanism
have similarities in the change-speed mechanism
have equivalents in other countries
have a name referring to different manufacturers
have a coachbuilt version of the same design
have badges which feature the coat of arms of their cities of origin
have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name
were the first cars produced by their makers
were the basis for racing cars
were in the same list
are the high-output version of a standard model
star in a film,
had later revival projects,
are named after daughters of the cars distributors
are named after the same object\thing,
derived from different cars,
derived from the same car,
won the same race,
are in the same collection\museum\event
their engineers worked for the same company\model
are missing of a part
Founder's relatives were tied to their early automotive empire
are the product of three countries

-One car: its nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
its engine's nickname and the hood ornament of the other car
is named after a vessil and the other is a sea-going car
its engine is the evolution of the engine of the other car
its designer worked for the design-house of the second car
its features were credited to the designer of the 2nd

-Both manufacturers: produced the same non-automotive object
made an unorthodox vehicle
had a specific coachwork for a country
Their last model derives from the same car

-One manufacturer: worked for the other
had a relative working for the other
was a pilot in the other car
built under license the aircraft engines designed by the other

-The name of one car and: the driver of the second,
the name of a special version of the other
the circuit where it raced,
the part introduced first time,
the name of the actor who played in a movie featuring the other car,
the same name in a different language,
the name of the city founded,
the number of cars produced,
the number of one dimension of the other,
the name of the engine

-The same: man owned the design-house of the 1st and was a dealer for the 2nd

GRAYWOLF · « **Reply #252 on:** February 28, 2009, 07:14:40 AM »

So "both have fender skirts!" doesn't count?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #253 on:** February 28, 2009, 07:24:31 AM »

I'm afraid it doesn't. When 2 cars were posted because both have tails, I considered a more generic connection, "both cars have the same body style elements", because this is a neverending chain, but there is no point in posting couples sharing each time a different part of the body. But, if you find another link between these 2 cars, will be ok, or you can pick another one!
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Paul Jaray · « **Reply #254 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:53:20 AM »

Graywolf? What am I supposed to do? according to the rules I should take away one of your points. Please don't let me do that, change your reply or find another car.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #255 on:** March 01, 2009, 03:04:41 PM »

OK, this one is open to all again, do not consider Graywolf connection, this is the last valid one:
Jaguar XK120 1954 and Fiat 8V 1952. Both cars have a coachbuilt version of the same design

GRAYWOLF · « **Reply #256 on:** March 01, 2009, 06:45:37 PM »

Fiat 8V 1952 and this Cisitalia D46 were both designed by Dante Giacosa who worked for Fiat and used various Fiat parts on the D46.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #257 on:** March 02, 2009, 05:25:22 PM »

That is good!
Fiat 8V 1952 and Cisitalia D46 1946 both cars have the same designer
Cisitalia D46 1946 and what car? why?

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #258 on:** March 03, 2009, 03:04:01 AM »

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #259 on:** March 03, 2009, 08:13:22 AM »

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #260 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:34:15 AM »

Wasn't "same designer" already used?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #261 on:** March 03, 2009, 11:56:11 AM »

"Same engineer" (Porsche) and "designer of one car worked in the design-house of the second" (Boano) are the ones that are closer, but different.
I try to check each time in the list in the top of each page and in the reply n.43 in page 2. In this case, Giacosa could be considered as Porsche as an engineer, but He was also a designer and actually was involved in both project.

Allan L · « **Reply #262 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:39:48 PM »

We are in danger of having a discussion on whether an Engineer is a Designer.
Modern parlance seeems to regard the stylist as a "designer" where once men like Porsche, who were Engineers, designed cars.
Similarly modern Formula 1 drivers have their own "race engineer" who is probably a bit more than a mechanic, but possibly has no formal qualifications as an Engineer.
(don't get me started on the current UK practice of calling the man who comes to fix the washing machine and engineer)

Ray B. · « **Reply #263 on:** March 03, 2009, 04:10:17 PM »

This is definitely a topic for men with big brains.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #264 on:** March 04, 2009, 03:17:12 AM »

I do prefer consider Porsche or Giacosa as engineers, and Michelotti or Martin designers. Usually (but it's not a rule) a designer is also an engineer but an engineer do not have to be a designer. Obviously an engineer who designs a car take into account other issues, and a pure designer can let his creativity go free. On the other hand this chain is yours, I just have to check each time your connections and update the list. "Same designer" was a new one and now it's over, so I accepted it. Sometimes this links are really thin, other times are open to different points of view and that's what I like about that. (btw: Otto, I miss yours connections...).

Quote from: Ray B. on March 03, 2009, 04:10:17 PM

This is definitely a topic for men with big brains.

I don't think so: you can post a Fiat Panda and write "both cars have 4 wheels" because it's good. If you want, you can take a look to Cisitalia's story and find something relevant about his logo, and then the connection with another car maker will be easy. You can also remember that the D46 was... it's up to you to decide how deep you go, and it will be harder and harder in the future. Now Graywolf's point is out there, make your move.
Cisitalia D46 1946 and what car? why?

Ray B. · « **Reply #265 on:** March 04, 2009, 03:26:45 AM »

By "big brains", I meant brains roomy enough to stack all the already used connections and remeber them when needed. For instance I am amazed that a connection as obvious as "same designer" hadn't been thought of yet after 11 pages of this game.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #266 on:** March 04, 2009, 03:36:33 AM »

At the top of each new page I post a list of all the connections updated and in the 2 page, reply n.43, I write the cars plus the connection. It's for you, if you think to a connection you just have to look at the top of the page and if you still have some doubts, in page 2 there is the detail of it. You will be surprise if you consider how many trivial connections are already there...no need to remember, take a look and make your try..

GRAYWOLF · « **Reply #267 on:** March 04, 2009, 03:38:15 AM »

For me, it was just dumb luck...I missed the part of the instructions where you couldn't use the same connection...

Can you follow up your own post?

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #268 on:** March 04, 2009, 03:48:36 AM »

after 1 month without any reply, you earn your point (s) , so technically for you is not convenient to continue the chain but, if you want to, in order to lead the chain toward a very hard (4 points) connection, or if you just want to continue it, you can do that, but after 1 week without replies.

neilshouse · « **Reply #269 on:** March 05, 2009, 12:51:05 PM »

Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947... Both were the first cars produced by their makers.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #270 on:** March 05, 2009, 01:13:45 PM »

That's perfect!
Cisitalia D46 1946 and Bristol 400 1947 Both were the first cars produced by their makers

Otto Puzzell · « **Reply #271 on:** March 05, 2009, 04:36:47 PM »

Bristol 400 1947 and 1910 A.L.F.A. 24 HP. Both of these initial offerings from fledgling brands had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #272 on:** March 05, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »

That is good!
Bristol 400 1947 and A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 Both had badges which featured the coat of arms of their cities of origin

DynaMike · « **Reply #273 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:05:21 PM »

The 1910 A.L.F.A. 24 hp and the 1986 Opel Omega, since both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name.

Paul Jaray · « **Reply #274 on:** March 05, 2009, 06:11:56 PM »

That's OK!
A.L.F.A. 24 hp 1910 and Opel Omega 1986 both cars have a letter from the Greek alphabet in their name

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