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NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« on: February 09, 2011, 01:34:11 PM »
I like buses, and it would seem there are other Puzzlers who like them too.
So here's a puzzle specially for them: there is 1 point available for identifying the bus's chassis and engine maker together with when it dates from, or if the date is not possible to ascertain then either when it was in service or when it was first proposed as a concept.  I don't know all the dates myself however so in those cases I'll accept the answer without it, but if I have it and it is possible to ascertain it then I will need it!
There will also be a bonus point on offer for whoever can identify the bodybuilder.
And the points for each puzzle can be shared: it doesn't have to be the same puzzler who identifies both the make of bus and the bodybuilder, so give your answers carefully!
Good hunting!

First batch:
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 01:36:14 PM »
Second batch:
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 01:38:17 PM »
Third batch:
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 01:39:37 PM »
nice!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 01:41:15 PM »
Fourth batch:
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 02:45:20 AM »
I know three of them off the bat, but will they last?
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 05:38:12 AM »
Quote from: Allemano on February 09, 2011, 01:39:37 PM
nice!
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on February 10, 2011, 02:45:20 AM
I know three of them off the bat, but will they last?

Glad you like them guys.
Something tells me neither the Rookies nor the Experts are going to get all of these, so the Pro's will get a chance.
However, Otto, I think I know which ones you know and I would bet my bottom dollar they are the ones that go first!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 06:02:04 AM »
OK I'm first it seems:

#7    Austin chassis/engine/Duple body
#22  AEC chassis/AEC or Gardner engine/Burlingham body ("Seagull"?)
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 07:22:38 AM »
Quote from: billtorrance9999 on February 10, 2011, 06:02:04 AM
OK I'm first it seems:

#7    Austin chassis/engine/Duple body
#22  AEC chassis/AEC or Gardner engine/Burlingham body ("Seagull"?)


#7 is an Austin - a 1950 K8 in fact (that front is oh so familiar!) but it's not bodied by Duple.
#22 is indeed an AEC (which one and when from?) but it's not a Burlingham body.

I have added 1 point for the Austin (I'm going to add them as we go along otherwise feel they would never be allocated if I wait for everything to be solved..) so there are still points begging for the bodybuilders of these two and I need to know what model of AEC and its build-date.
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2011, 07:26:19 AM »
Solutions/points:

Bus 1: Lancia Omicron - 1927; body bay Macchi (?) - 2 points to pguillem
Bus 2: Loewy Associates design for Greyhound Coach 1941 - 1 point to Amsterdam
Bus 3: Montreal Gas-Electric Coach - 1 point to Wendax
Bus 4: Yellow Coach Z-BH-602 1931 - 1 point for Amsterdam
Bus 5: Opel Blitz tractor pulling Fahrzeug Schumann bus body - 1938.  2 points to Hondast
Bus 6: Fiat 413 Monotral body by Viberti - 1961.  2 points to pguillem
Bus 7: 1950 Austin K8 bodied by Churchill - 1 point to billtorrance (make) and 1 to woodinsight (body).
Bus 8: Berliet PNMRE - 1968; body by Berliet  1 point each to pguillem and Wendax
Bus 9: Mumbai Ashok-Leyland body by Antony Motors. 1 pt each for pguillem and Wendax
Bus 10: Mercedes-Benz 0305 bodied by BUSAF - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 11: Büssing DF for Berlin, body by Gaubschat. 1 pt each for pguillem and Wendax
Bus 12: Drive Movie Bus - Paramount Studios 1935 - 1 point to Wendax
Bus 13: Mitsubishi Fuso Meteor Aero Queen III - 1 point to Wendax
Bus 14: Yellow Coach Model 722 - 1935.  1 point to Amsterdam
Bus 15: Sunbeam MF2B Coronation Class Trolleybus bodied by Charles H. Roe 1953 - 2 pts to Wendax
Bus 16: Viberti plastic bus concept - 1 point to pguillem
Bus 17: Mercedes-Benz O 10000 Reichspost built by M-B Gaggenau 1937 - 2 points to Tom_I
Bus 18: Henschel HS140N 1953 body by Trutz - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 19: "Cyclops" nuclear-powered bus from 1976 film "The Big Bus" - 1 pt to Hondast.
Bus 20: Lancia 120003 bodied by Dalfa - 1967 - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 21: Sentinel Landmaster V 1955 with Bellhouse Hartwell body - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 22: AEC Regal IV 1953 with Gurney Nutting body - 2 points to pguillem
Bus 23: Renault Galion with Amiot body 1957 - 2 points to pguillem
Bus 24: Leyland Arcadian from 1956 bodied by Metro-Cammell-Weymann - 2 points to woodinsight for maker, name, date and bodybuilder.
Bus 25: Henschel HS200 UN for Continental Trailways with Kässbohrer body - 1956. 1 pt each to pguillem and Wendax.
Bus 26: Stockholm Leyland Atlantean 1967 bodied by Park Royal - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 27: Yellow Coach 735 with GM engine 1938 - 1 point each to Amsterdam and Wendax
Bus 28: Büssing Senator 25DD 1965 for Stockholm, bodied by Büssing - 1 pt each for pguillem and Wendax
Bus 29: Twin-Coach - 1 point for pguillem; model is a 1938  58GDE Diesel-Electric coach - 1 point to Wendax
Bus 30: 1933 AEC Regal chassis with mobile home bodywork by Thos Harrington - 2 points to woodinsight
Bus 31: Büssing Aero bodied by Ludewig 1955 - 2 points for Wendax
Bus 32: Mauri 6.3 on Fiat 416 chassis 1966 - 2 points for Wendax
Bus 33: Ashok Leyland Comet pulling a 1950's body by Hyderabad Allwyn Metal Works - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 34: Jiangsu Flxible CJ6100SLC3HK - 1 point for Wendax
Bus 35: AEC Regent III 1954 in Lisbon , bodied by Weymann - 2 points to Wendax
Bus 36: Turin Fiat bodied by Aerfer - 2 points to pguillem


Points tally so far:

Wendax:      31
pguillem:     17
Amsterdam:   4
Hondast:        3
Tom_I:           2
woodinsight:   5
billtorrance:    1

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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2011, 07:57:37 PM »
WOW! What an amazing bunch of buses!!!
#11 looks like some kind of wild insect.
The grill of #12 looks like a Bedford, but please tell me it isn't 'cause I've spent far too much time trying to proove it is!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2011, 05:17:37 AM »
Quote from: Vincent Vell Vet on February 10, 2011, 07:57:37 PM
WOW! What an amazing bunch of buses!!!
#11 looks like some kind of wild insect.
The grill of #12 looks like a Bedford, but please tell me it isn't 'cause I've spent far too much time trying to proove it is!

Actually the numbers refer to the picture above!
So it's #12 that looks like an insect and #13 that has a grille that looks like a Bedford?
But you'll be pleased to know that it's not a Bedford though...
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2011, 05:14:12 AM »
This puzzle seems to have stumped the Roookies somewhat with only 1 point out of a possible 72 being awarded so far, so let's see if the Experts know as much about buses as they do about cars!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2011, 06:28:37 AM »
#27 is a 1938 Yellow Coach (New York City Sightseeing Bus)for the Fifth Avenue Coach Company
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2011, 06:39:53 AM »
Bus 19: Cyclops nuclear "The big bus".
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2011, 06:57:45 AM »
Bus :Opel Blitz Bus 74 1939?
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2011, 08:11:45 AM »
Quote from: hondast on February 12, 2011, 06:57:45 AM
Bus :Opel Blitz Bus 74 1939?

Could you repeat the bus number please?!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2011, 08:30:08 AM »
Quote from: Amsterdam on February 12, 2011, 06:28:37 AM
#27 is a 1938 Yellow Coach (New York City Sightseeing Bus)for the Fifth Avenue Coach Company

It was indeed operated by the Fifth Avenue Coach Company but not as a sightseeing bus and neither was it manufactured by Yellow Coach!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2011, 08:33:27 AM »
Quote from: hondast on February 12, 2011, 06:39:53 AM
Bus 19: Cyclops nuclear "The big bus".

That's right!
It's the nuclear-powered bus "Cyclops" from the 1976 spoof disaster movie "The Big Bus".
So that one is solved - doubt if we'll get to the bottom of a bodybuilder for that one: unless someone knows better?!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2011, 08:57:22 AM »

Quote from: Carnut on February 12, 2011, 08:30:08 AM
Quote from: Amsterdam on February 12, 2011, 06:28:37 AM
#27 is a 1938 Yellow Coach (New York City Sightseeing Bus)for the Fifth Avenue Coach Company

It was indeed operated by the Fifth Avenue Coach Company but not as a sightseeing bus and neither was it manufactured by Yellow Coach!

Maybe this one is by Yellow Truck & Coach Manufacturing Company?

#4 Fifth Avenue Coach double-decker motorbus, No.1244, circa 1930.

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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2011, 09:24:50 AM »
Quote from: Amsterdam on February 12, 2011, 08:57:22 AM

Maybe this one is by Yellow Truck & Coach Manufacturing Company?

#4 Fifth Avenue Coach double-decker motorbus, No.1244, circa 1930.



#27 wasn't made by Yellow anything!
#4 is again a Fifth Avenue Coach Company-operated bus, and it is from about 1930 (very slightly later actually) - but what make and model is it?
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2011, 10:12:03 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on February 12, 2011, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: hondast on February 12, 2011, 06:57:45 AM
Bus :Opel Blitz Bus 74 1939?

Could you repeat the bus number please?!



  ;D  Bus 5: Opel Blitz 74 RF
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2011, 10:39:42 AM »
Quote from: hondast on February 12, 2011, 10:12:03 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 12, 2011, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: hondast on February 12, 2011, 06:57:45 AM
Bus :Opel Blitz Bus 74 1939?

Could you repeat the bus number please?!



  ;D  Bus 5: Opel Blitz 74 RF

The tractor is indeed an Opel Blitz, but that's only part of what I was looking for; Opel had nothing to do with the trailer.
So who made the bus bit and when?!
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2011, 11:13:11 AM »
Fahrzeugbau Schumann, 1939.
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Re: NEH 942 - The Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2011, 11:28:59 AM »
Bus 17 is a Mercedes-Benz O 10000 from about 1937, being operated as a postbus by the Deutsche Reichspost. This monster had a 6-cylinder diesel engine of 683 cu in (11.2 litres) developing 150 hp at 1700 rpm, and propelling the machine to a dizzying top speed of 40 mph.

So far as I can gather, the body was built at the Daimler-Benz Gaggenau plant.
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