Topic: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle - all Solved!

[pguillem]

OK.  Here are my first guesses (as quick as possible)

#1 Albion CX19 for Hills Bus Service - Yes, but there's more to it than that!  When does the chassis date from?  When does the body date from?  Who built the body?

#10 A bus bodied by Verheul ? - Don't know who built the body actually; might be Verheul. But what's the chassis?

#12 Saviem for Paris Vision, maybe a S105 - Yes, although I don't know the model designation; when does it date from?

#14 Ford from 1937 for Greyhound in Australia - It's a Ford yes, but that's not quite enough; a Ford what? Date not quite right; who built it?

#16 A Delahaye from 1947 ? - Yes; what model?

#18 A bus bodied by Busaf ? - Might be BUSAF, I don't know.  I'm looking for the make/chassis builder?

#33 Krauss-Maffei 54KML - Krauss-Maffei is right but I have a different model; when does it date from?

Very good start!
I'll tot up the points later; maentime there's a bit to work on!

#1 Albion CX19 for Hills Bus Service - The chassis date from 1939.  Hills built the body
#12 Saviem for Paris Vision, was a S53M from 1968 bodied by Gangloff
#14 Ford from 1937 for Greyhound in Australia - It seems that the Graham Allum reference is wrong.  I found a Ford Super Coach from 1938 built by Watt Coaches.
#16 A Delahaye from 1947 - It's a 131
#33 Krauss-Maffei - Let's say KML 110 from 1959.

[pguillem]

Preparing for the remaining work.  But before : #25 is a Màvag-Mercedes-Benz BX333 in Budapest.

Almost (MAVAG/Budapest) but not the right model designation, or at least not the one I have..
Locked for you to dig a little more for designation and year.

My Hungarian is quite limited.  Looking for this bus, I found interesting infos on an english site
"This very strange vehicle is pictured in the Szentendre bus and tram museum and I thought you would like to see it. It’s a petrol-engined coach converted into a tram - amazing! I know nothing about it or where it ran, although perhaps it was a war-time conversion."
BTW it describes it as a MÁVAG N2h/40 #333 from 1941.

[pguillem]

#22 A Berliet bodied by ?

[Carnut]

#1 Albion CX19 for Hills Bus Service - The chassis date from 1939.  Hills built the body
#12 Saviem for Paris Vision, was a S53M from 1968 bodied by Gangloff
#14 Ford from 1937 for Greyhound in Australia - It seems that the Graham Allum reference is wrong.  I found a Ford Super Coach from 1938 built by Watt Coaches.
#16 A Delahaye from 1947 - It's a 131
#33 Krauss-Maffei - Let's say KML 110 from 1959.

#1: Yes, all the info is right so far; 1 pt for that but when did Hills build the body, for that other point?
#12: Yes - I didn't know it was bodied by Gangloff so 2 pts for you for that one!
#14: Yes - all correct - 2 points
#16: Yes, it's a Delahaye 131 from 1947 - 1 point
#33: Krauss-Maffei KML 110 from 1959 is correct so that's another point.

[Carnut]

Preparing for the remaining work.  But before : #25 is a Màvag-Mercedes-Benz BX333 in Budapest.

Almost (MAVAG/Budapest) but not the right model designation, or at least not the one I have..
Locked for you to dig a little more for designation and year.

My Hungarian is quite limited.  Looking for this bus, I found interesting infos on an english site
"This very strange vehicle is pictured in the Szentendre bus and tram museum and I thought you would like to see it. It’s a petrol-engined coach converted into a tram - amazing! I know nothing about it or where it ran, although perhaps it was a war-time conversion."
BTW it describes it as a MÁVAG N2h/40 #333 from 1941.

Yes - another point for you!

[Carnut]

#22 A Berliet bodied by ?

I don't actually know the chassis/engine, only the bodybuilder and date.
If you can prove to me it's a Berliet I will award a point; 1 point awaits for the identity of the bodybuilder and when it was built!
It IS French though..

[pguillem]

#22 A Berliet bodied by ?

I don't actually know the chassis/engine, only the bodybuilder and date.
If you can prove to me it's a Berliet I will award a point; 1 point awaits for the identity of the bodybuilder and when it was built!
It IS French though..

That's just a guess.  I can't prove it.

[Carnut]

We seem to have gone as far as we can with the Experts, so let's see how long it takes the Professionals to finish this one off..

[Wendax]

2: The complete name is Do56, and the coachbuilding company is missing so far: it was Waggonbau Bautzen. The Do56 was presented in 1956, built from 1957 to 1959 for BVG (East-Berlin), 9036 cc 120 hp Diesel engine of the IFA H6 truck, 105 Do56 built
3: The Biamax F600 was a trolleybus with CGE electricals, just 1 trolleybus built
5: This 1965 Fiat 306/3 fitted with the standard rounded Cansa bodywork, belonged to the SITA Campania fleet, carrying fleet number 2150.
8: 1929 Chevrolet LQ bus with Swedish body
9: This bus can be the above mentioned Zonda A9 YCK6129HGN, engine YC6L330-20 (330 hp). The same picture was used for the CNG derivative Qimu Power Technology QMB-12M-6129HGN-A9 with a Huachai BF6M1015CNG-34 engine (V6, 250 kW) on Zonda A9 chassis.
11: The White semi trailer bus is from the late 40s.
13: The Morris Motors Band Bus was bodied by Wadham.
24: The DAF with Renova body is from 1951.
29: D2 Doppeldecker, 1927, developped in 1924 by ABOAG Berlin together with Büssing and NAG. This one is a Büssing-built one. It has a Maybach OS 5 engine (6 cylinder, 7 litre, 70 hp). 350 built.

[woodinsight]

#4 - Ambaari Sleeper Coach of the Karnataka State Road Transport Corp.
#10 - Biamax R514?
#15 - Albion Venturer CX19 with Roberts body H56R 1947
#28 - Gillig-Neoplan?
#31 - Sentinel STC6 with Sentinel body B44F 1953
#36 - Bristol with ECW body?

[Wendax]

#1: Body rebuilt by Hills in 1960

[Oguerrerob]

26. Berliet cab 1917 duvslag
15. 1947 Leyland PD2/1 chassis, with a Leyland body
5 Mercedes Benz Coach

[Carnut]

26. Berliet cab 1917 duvslag
15. 1947 Leyland PD2/1 chassis, with a Leyland body
5 Mercedes Benz Coach

26. Yes!  1 point for you.
15. No
  5. No

[Carnut]

Reverting on Wendax's and woodinsight's replies later today or tomorrow when I get the time.

[Carnut]

Wendax's answers:

2. Thanks for further info
3. Thanks for further info and I've given you 1 point for that bodybuilder
5. Yes!  2 points for you.
8. Yes - 1 point for ID
9. Thanks for further info
11. Thanks for the date - I'll give you 1 point for that.
13. 1 point for you for ID'ing the bodybuilder
24. Thanks for the date
29. Yes! 2 more points.
 
Later post:
1. Thanks for that date, but pguillem was supposed to give me it!  I didn't actually say it's locked and perhaps I should have said another point would be awarded when he reverted with it.  I will now give pguillem both points for ID'ing the bus and bodywork.

So that's 8 points for Wendax!

[Carnut]

#4 - Ambaari Sleeper Coach of the Karnataka State Road Transport Corp.
#10 - Biamax R514?
#15 - Albion Venturer CX19 with Roberts body H56R 1947
#28 - Gillig-Neoplan?
#31 - Sentinel STC6 with Sentinel body B44F 1953
#36 - Bristol with ECW body?

4: Yes - 1 point
10: No
15: Yes!  2 points
28: No
31. Yes! 2 points
36 Yes it's an ECW-bodied Bristol so there are potentially 2 points for you there hence it's locked for you to tell me what it's actually called so I can award them?  A Bristol What?

Here's another picture of two to help you along; in the meantime I've given you 5 points.

[Otto Puzzell]

#20 looks like a Syd Mead illustration of a future bus.

[Oguerrerob]

34. Ankai luxury coach powered by new energy
6. PURES bus is an award winning design concept from Korea. Concept solar powered electric buses purify air as they travel

[woodinsight]

#36 - Bristol VRL/LH6L with ECW coach body CH42/18CT This one is probably c.1971 (prototype VRL introduced Earl's Court 1968)

[Carnut]

Very good Oguerrerob - another 2 points for you!

[Carnut]

#36 - Bristol VRL/LH6L with ECW coach body CH42/18CT This one is probably c.1971 (prototype VRL introduced Earl's Court 1968)

All this is probably not wrong, but the Bristol VRL as a double-deck coach built only for Standerwick had its own designation that it was known by!  What is it?

Locked for your reply still..

[Wendax]

#33: The Krauss-Maffei KML110 pictured has a body by Krauss-Maffei itself. Up to 1954 the KML110 was built at NWF in Wilhelmshaven. Those NWF-built buses are recognizable by the four-piece windshield and smaller front roof windows. In 1954, the production was moved to Krauss-Maffei in Munich-Allach. This version had a two-piece windshield and larger front roof windows as can be seen in the picture.

[grobmotorix]

What about Otto´s #20 Syd Mead guess?

It would have been my answer, too.

BTW:

I´ve started a new book topic showing many nice Syd Mead designs like this:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16166.0

 

[woodinsight]

#36 - Bristol VRL/LH6L with ECW coach body CH42/18CT This one is probably c.1971 (prototype VRL introduced Earl's Court 1968)

All this is probably not wrong, but the Bristol VRL as a double-deck coach built only for Standerwick had its own designation that it was known by!  What is it?

Locked for your reply still..

Looking at the specific type numbers for the Standerwick VRLs I can tell you what I have found -
Chassis nos. for the Standerwick dd coaches were VRL/LH2 and numbered 102 (1969) and 127-155 (1971-1972).
Other than that i don't know.

[Carnut]

What about Otto´s #20 Syd Mead guess?

It would have been my answer, too.

BTW:

I´ve started a new book topic showing many nice Syd Mead designs like this:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=16166.0

 

Sorry, yes, I should have said something but the truth is it's not the answer I have, so I have to find out all about Syd Mead and see if he was involved before I can say yeah or neah.

I'll do some research tomorrow when I have some time and answer that one then.