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NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle - all Solved!
« on: March 16, 2011, 12:10:35 PM »
It's time for another bus puzzle!

Same rules as last time : 1 point for the chassis/engine builder and date plus another point for the bodybuilder.

However, I don't necessarily know all the makes or all the bodybuilders or even the exact dates, so just give me what you can and it may be that you know more than I do!

Again this puzzle will only have a short stay with the Rookies, just in case we have some new Rookie bus expert, then it will quickly move up through the Experts to the Pro's.

As before, points will be awarded as they are earned.

Good hunting!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 12:13:40 PM »
Second batch:
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 12:16:47 PM »
And third batch:
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 03:31:20 PM »
It doesn't look there are any bus experts amongst the new Rookies, so let's move this one upwards to the Experts...
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2011, 06:47:00 PM »
OK.  Here are my first guesses (as quick as possible)

#1 Albion CX19 for Hills Bus Service
#2 IFA DO fom 1956 Est=Berlin
#3 Biamax F600 from 1962 Athens
#7 Sunbeam Sikhfrom 1933 bodied by Dodson (H36/28R)
#10 A bus bodied by Verheul ?
#11 White semi, the first in New South Wales
#12 Saviem for Paris Vision, maybe a S105
#13 Morris FF Band Bus from 1961
#14 Ford from 1937 for Greyhound in Australia
#16 A Delahaye from 1947 ?
#17 Scania from 1938 bodied by Steffe
#18 A bus bodied by Busaf ?
#19 Pegaso Z403 Monocasco from 1952
#24 DAF bodied by Renova
#30 Büssing-NAG 375T bodied by Gaubschat from 1935
#33 Krauss-Maffei 54KML
« Last Edit: March 20, 2011, 10:29:50 PM by pguillem »
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2011, 07:15:00 PM »
31 - Leyland Tiger
35 - Commer
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 07:54:04 PM »
..............and not a Bedford OB amongst them......shame on you ;)
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2011, 06:57:52 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on March 20, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
OK.  Here are my first guesses (as quick as possible)

#1 Albion CX19 for Hills Bus Service - Yes, but there's more to it than that!  When does the chassis date from?  When does the body date from?  Who built the body?

#2 IFA DO fom 1956 Est=Berlin - Yes!
#3 Biamax F600 from 1962 Athens - Yes!
#7 Sunbeam Sikhfrom 1933 bodied by Dodson (H36/28R) - Yes!
#10 A bus bodied by Verheul ? - Don't know who built the body actually; might be Verheul. But what's the chassis?

#11 White semi, the first in New South Wales -  Yes!
#12 Saviem for Paris Vision, maybe a S105 - Yes, although I don't know the model designation; when does it date from?

#13 Morris FF Band Bus from 1961 - Yes!
#14 Ford from 1937 for Greyhound in Australia - It's a Ford yes, but that's not quite enough; a Ford what? Date not quite right; who built it?

#16 A Delahaye from 1947 ? - Yes; what model?

#17 Scania from 1938 bodied by Steffe - Yes!
#18 A bus bodied by Busaf ? - Might be BUSAF, I don't know.  I'm looking for the make/chassis builder?

#19 Pegaso Z403 Monocasco from 1952 - Yes!
#24 DAF bodied by Renova - Yes!
#30 Büssing-NAG 375T bodied by Gaubschat from 1935 - Yes!
#33 Krauss-Maffei 54KML - Krauss-Maffei is right but I have a different model; when does it date from?

Very good start!
I'll tot up the points later; maentime there's a bit to work on!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 06:59:17 AM »
Quote from: max on March 20, 2011, 07:15:00 PM
31 - Leyland Tiger
35 - Commer

No and No; sorry!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2011, 07:00:08 AM »
Quote from: Pelland on March 20, 2011, 07:54:04 PM
..............and not a Bedford OB amongst them......shame on you ;)

Much too easy!
Anyway, ever since I was sick in the back of one on the way to Bridlington as a small boy I've never liked them!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2011, 07:40:34 AM »
Answers/points:

Bus #1: 1939 Albion CX19 rebuilt by Hills in 1960 - 2 pts to pguillem for chassis and bodybuilder
Bus #2: IFA Do56 East German Berlin bus with Waggonbau Bautzen body - 1956 - 1 point to pguillem for make and 1 to Wendax for body
Bus #3: Biamax F600 Athens bus 1962 - 1 point to pguillem
Bus #4: Ambaari Ashok sleeper Coach - 1 point to woodinsight
Bus #5: Fiat 306/3 Cansa bus in Brescia - 1 point to Wendax
Bus #6: Pures South Korean air purefying electric bus - 1 point to Oguerrerob
Bus #7: 1933 Sunbeam Sikh bodied by Dodson - 2 points to pguillem
Bus #8: Chevrolet LQ Bus 1929 - 1 point to Wendax
Bus #9: Zhongda touring bus - 1 point to del78
Bus #10: Guy Victory U.F. Touring Coach - 1 pt for pguillem with 1 more point there for bodybuilder with proof!
Bus #11: White semi-bus late 1940's - first in New South Wales - 1 point to pguillem and 1 to Wendax
Bus #12: Saviem Paris Vision S53M 1968 bodied by Gangloff - 2 points to pguillem
Bus #13: Morris Motors Band touring bus 1961 bodied by Wadham - 1 point to pguillem and 1 to Wendax
Bus #14: 1938 Ford Super Coach for Greyhound Australia built by Watt Coaches, Brisbane - 2 pts to pguillem.
Bus #15: Albion CX19 with Roberts body - 2 points to woodinsight
Bus #16: 1947 Delahaye 131 - 1 point to pguillem.
Bus #17: 1938 Scania built by Steffe - 2 points to pguillem
Bus #18: Scammell Contractor for South African Railways - 1 point for Austin
Bus #19: Madrid Pegaso Z403 Monocasco - 1952 - 2 points to pguillem
Bus #20: Ford Advanced Bus Styling Rendering mid 1960's - 1 point to Allemano
Bus #21: Malta-built AmphiCoach GTS-1 amphibious coach - 1 point to del78
Bus #22: Coach bodied by Grange Freres of Valence - 1946. Chassis unknown. 1 point to woodinsight.
Bus #23: Toyota BW Monocoque bus 1949 - 1 point to Wendax.
Bus #24: 1951 DAF with Renova body - 2 points to pguillem
Bus #25: 1941 MAVAG N2h/40 in Budapest -  1 point to pguillem
Bus #26: 1917 Berliet - 1 point for Oguerrerob
Bus #27: GMC Fageol Twin Coach 1942 - 1 point for Oguerrerob
Bus #28: Drogmoller Meteor - 1993.  1 point to woodinsight.
Bus #29: Bussing ABOAG  1927 with Maybach engine - 2 points to Wendax
Bus #30: 1935 Büssing 375T with Gaubschat body - 2 points to pguillem
Bus #31: Sentinel STC6 with Sentinel B44F body 1953 - 2 points to woodinsight
Bus #32: Guy Warrior on service in Greece - 1 point to pguillem.
Bus #33: 1959 Krauss-Maffei KML 110 - 1 point to pguillem.
Bus #34: Ankai Chinese electric bus - 1 point to Oguerrerob
Bus #35: 1953 Karrier Q25 with Auto Cellulose body -  2 points to Max
Bus #36: Bristol VRLL Express Coach 1972 bodied by ECW - 2 points to woodinsight


Total points tally:

pguillem:   26 points
Wendax:    9 points
woodinsight: 9 points
del78     :   2 points
Max        :  2 points
Oguerrerob : 4 points
Allemano   : 1 point
Austin        : 1 point
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2011, 08:00:15 AM »
no. 9: Zonda A9 from China
no. 21: Amphicoach
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2011, 08:01:24 AM »
Quote from: del78 on March 21, 2011, 08:00:15 AM
no. 9: Zonda A9 from China

That's it!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2011, 08:02:47 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on March 20, 2011, 06:47:00 PM
#10 A bus bodied by Verheul ?

It's not by Verheul as far as I can ascertain.
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 08:35:39 AM »
Quote from: del78 on March 21, 2011, 08:00:15 AM
no. 9: Zonda A9 from China
no. 21: Amphicoach

Amphicoach is right but it has a model designation too.
1 point awaiting you when you give me it!

(I'd prefer it if you gave new answers as separate posts rather than edits of previous posts, as otherwise they might not get noticed.  Thanks)
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2011, 08:40:08 AM »
bus # 21.jpj = Amphicoach GTS. World's first amphibious bus. Builder Amphicoach of Malta. 12 to be made. Engine Iveco Tector turbo diesel. Saw a partial answer already, thought I would give more details. ;)
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2011, 08:43:25 AM »
Thanks whcgt but I was really awaiting del78's answer with the model designation, as I said.
However, the designation you have given is not totally correct so this is locked for del78's reply with the correct full answer.  If he doesn't get it at first try then I'll open it up again.
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2011, 08:50:35 AM »
Quote from: Carnut on March 21, 2011, 06:59:17 AM
Quote from: max on March 20, 2011, 07:15:00 PM
31 - Leyland Tiger
35 - Commer

No and No; sorry!

Actually you're not too far out with #35 - keep working on it!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2011, 08:52:54 AM »
Sorry if I screwed up del 78 answer. I did not see his response until after I searched it. I had seen that #21 was not answered & I pusued it.
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2011, 09:14:13 AM »
#35 - a nod's as good as a....Karrier Q25 with Auto Cellulose body, 1953.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 09:32:44 AM by max »
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2011, 09:44:36 AM »
Quote from: whcgt on March 21, 2011, 08:52:54 AM
Sorry if I screwed up del 78 answer. I did not see his response until after I searched it. I had seen that #21 was not answered & I pusued it.

Amphicoach GTS-1 (Luxury Coach Version)
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2011, 09:48:24 AM »
Quote from: max on March 21, 2011, 09:14:13 AM
#35 - a nod's as good as a....Karrier Q25 with Auto Cellulose body, 1953.

That's worth 2 points!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2011, 09:49:03 AM »
Quote from: del78 on March 21, 2011, 09:44:36 AM
Amphicoach GTS-1 (Luxury Coach Version)

That's what I was looking for!
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2011, 09:49:41 AM »
Preparing for the remaining work.  But before : #25 is a Màvag-Mercedes-Benz BX333 in Budapest.
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Re: NEH 1015 - Another Big Bus Puzzle
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2011, 09:53:46 AM »
Quote from: pguillem on March 21, 2011, 09:49:41 AM
Preparing for the remaining work.  But before : #25 is a Màvag-Mercedes-Benz BX333 in Budapest.

Almost (MAVAG/Budapest) but not the right model designation, or at least not the one I have..
Locked for you to dig a little more for designation and year.
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